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Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #105 on: March 19, 2023, 11:40:34 AM »

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There's no way there wasn't someone out there available who can do just a little bit more than Kornet. No chance.
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Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #106 on: March 19, 2023, 12:56:17 PM »

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There's no way there wasn't someone out there available who can do just a little bit more than Kornet. No chance.

or at least play 10 minutes at the forward positions...


Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #107 on: March 19, 2023, 01:10:53 PM »

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Luka Samanic is a big guy that might've helped us last night. This leaving a spot open when we need live bodies thing is like a splinter in my mind or a popcorn colonial in my teeth.

Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #108 on: March 19, 2023, 04:16:45 PM »

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Luka Samanic is a big guy that might've helped us last night. This leaving a spot open when we need live bodies thing is like a splinter in my mind or a popcorn colonial in my teeth.
I don't think Samanic would have helped, but I do think someone like Tony Bradley, Derrick Favors, Boogie Cousins or Whiteside might have.
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Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #109 on: March 19, 2023, 05:59:55 PM »

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Luka Samanic is a big guy that might've helped us last night. This leaving a spot open when we need live bodies thing is like a splinter in my mind or a popcorn colonial in my teeth.
I don't think Samanic would have helped, but I do think someone like Tony Bradley, Derrick Favors, Boogie Cousins or Whiteside might have.

I guess we'll never know since the Celtics have closed the checkbook.

Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #110 on: March 19, 2023, 07:12:49 PM »

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15th roster spot is something to argue about but it has very little to do with what's wrong with the team.

Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #111 on: March 19, 2023, 07:15:41 PM »

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15th roster spot is something to argue about but it has very little to do with what's wrong with the team.

It’s probably got a limited effect on the floor, but it proves how full of crap Wyc is.  Mr. “no spending limit, we’re all in for this season” actually cut payroll during the season.


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Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #112 on: March 19, 2023, 07:16:59 PM »

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What ya'll complaining about!?!?!?

Isn't it sooooo much better with the 72 extra concession stand workers and 36 more ball boys.

Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #113 on: March 20, 2023, 02:30:21 AM »

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Lakers are working out Tony Bradley. Why can’t we do that too? We desperately need a big man.

Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #114 on: March 20, 2023, 06:12:08 AM »

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15th roster spot is something to argue about but it has very little to do with what's wrong with the team.

It’s probably got a limited effect on the floor, but it proves how full of crap Wyc is.  Mr. “no spending limit, we’re all in for this season” actually cut payroll during the season.
You don't make a disgusting amount of money by 'giving it away'.
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Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #115 on: March 20, 2023, 09:50:47 AM »

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15th roster spot is something to argue about but it has very little to do with what's wrong with the team.

It’s probably got a limited effect on the floor, but it proves how full of crap Wyc is.  Mr. “no spending limit, we’re all in for this season” actually cut payroll during the season.
You don't make a disgusting amount of money by 'giving it away'.

You don't win a championship by being cheap.

Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #116 on: March 20, 2023, 12:01:01 PM »

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15th roster spot is something to argue about but it has very little to do with what's wrong with the team.

It’s probably got a limited effect on the floor, but it proves how full of crap Wyc is.  Mr. “no spending limit, we’re all in for this season” actually cut payroll during the season.
You don't make a disgusting amount of money by 'giving it away'.
I think Roy's biggest issue is the dishonesty.  If you aren't going to spend whatever it takes, then don't say there is no spending limit.  Say something more like, we are near our budget, but for the right move we can spend more, or something like that. 
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Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #117 on: March 20, 2023, 12:10:07 PM »

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15th roster spot is something to argue about but it has very little to do with what's wrong with the team.

It’s probably got a limited effect on the floor, but it proves how full of crap Wyc is.  Mr. “no spending limit, we’re all in for this season” actually cut payroll during the season.
You don't make a disgusting amount of money by 'giving it away'.
I think Roy's biggest issue is the dishonesty.  If you aren't going to spend whatever it takes, then don't say there is no spending limit.  Say something more like, we are near our budget, but for the right move we can spend more, or something like that.
Both teams spent hard, my man. Both teams spent hard.
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Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #118 on: March 20, 2023, 12:15:44 PM »

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On a side note, how is it that these guys are "gassed".  I realize I'm going to sound like an old fart, but jeez, these guys have access to all sorts of training, health plans, first-class travel and accommodations etc...Not to mention "load management".  I don't remember guys being gassed being an excuse or an issue "back in the day".
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Re: Celtics out of gas but still no 15th man!
« Reply #119 on: March 20, 2023, 12:26:47 PM »

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On a side note, how is it that these guys are "gassed".  I realize I'm going to sound like an old fart, but jeez, these guys have access to all sorts of training, health plans, first-class travel and accommodations etc...Not to mention "load management".  I don't remember guys being gassed being an excuse or an issue "back in the day".

Yeah.  Larry Bird averaged 38.4 minutes per game for his career, and 42.0 minutes per game in the playoffs.  In 1988, he averaged 44.9 minutes in the playoffs!!

I love JT, but he's averaging 37.4 minutes this year (2nd in the NBA), and he's playing like he just ran a marathon before every game. 

And, the 1986 team played at a significantly faster pace.

Maybe it's a matter of guys today carrying around more muscle mass, especially perimeter players?  The heavier you are, the faster you're going to get worn out, I presume.  (Larry is listed at 220 opposed to JT's 210, but Tatum is more jacked.)  That said, guys like Karl Malone played around 40mpg, and almost never missed games.


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