Trade Idea: Rudy Gay using TPE (short term replacement for Gallinari)

[Celtics2021]

Rudy Gay has 2 years left at $6.2M and $6.5M.  He would fit the Juancho Hernangomez TPE which expires in Jan 2023.  You would think that UTA would very much like to move that contract.  We should not have to give up anything to take him on.  But Ainge probably wants a pick for him.

As to what is left in his tank, I did not seen him play all that much last season.  I don't recall him being very good.  Utah probably figures they can just wait until someone is more desperate due to injury along the way.  No need to just give him away at this point.  Can always trade him later.

I'd take gay for a 2nd round pick. He no longer fits in Utah and that's probably all Danny can get for him.

At that money given his production, he should cost a 2nd round swap at most.

2nd round picks are for sale every year. If you can get a player that will help bring home a championship, you do it.

Sure, but Gay isn't that player.

The more playable vets on our bench the better.

The Jazz found him unplayable last season in the playoffs.

[liam]

Rudy Gay has 2 years left at $6.2M and $6.5M.  He would fit the Juancho Hernangomez TPE which expires in Jan 2023.  You would think that UTA would very much like to move that contract.  We should not have to give up anything to take him on.  But Ainge probably wants a pick for him.

As to what is left in his tank, I did not seen him play all that much last season.  I don't recall him being very good.  Utah probably figures they can just wait until someone is more desperate due to injury along the way.  No need to just give him away at this point.  Can always trade him later.

I'd take gay for a 2nd round pick. He no longer fits in Utah and that's probably all Danny can get for him.

At that money given his production, he should cost a 2nd round swap at most.

2nd round picks are for sale every year. If you can get a player that will help bring home a championship, you do it.

Sure, but Gay isn't that player.

The more playable vets on our bench the better.

The Jazz found him unplayable last season in the playoffs.

He'd be our 12th-13th man. I don't think we'd play him in the playoffs either but he'd help us get there fresher than last year.

[Roy H.]

Rudy Gay has 2 years left at $6.2M and $6.5M.  He would fit the Juancho Hernangomez TPE which expires in Jan 2023.  You would think that UTA would very much like to move that contract.  We should not have to give up anything to take him on.  But Ainge probably wants a pick for him.

As to what is left in his tank, I did not seen him play all that much last season.  I don't recall him being very good.  Utah probably figures they can just wait until someone is more desperate due to injury along the way.  No need to just give him away at this point.  Can always trade him later.

I'd take gay for a 2nd round pick. He no longer fits in Utah and that's probably all Danny can get for him.

At that money given his production, he should cost a 2nd round swap at most.

2nd round picks are for sale every year. If you can get a player that will help bring home a championship, you do it.

Sure, but Gay isn't that player.

The more playable vets on our bench the better.

The Jazz found him unplayable last season in the playoffs.

He'd be our 12th-13th man. I don't think we'd play him in the playoffs either but he'd help us get there fresher than last year.

Is Wyc shelling out $35 million for a 13th man? Should he?

[Celtics2021]

Rudy Gay has 2 years left at $6.2M and $6.5M.  He would fit the Juancho Hernangomez TPE which expires in Jan 2023.  You would think that UTA would very much like to move that contract.  We should not have to give up anything to take him on.  But Ainge probably wants a pick for him.

As to what is left in his tank, I did not seen him play all that much last season.  I don't recall him being very good.  Utah probably figures they can just wait until someone is more desperate due to injury along the way.  No need to just give him away at this point.  Can always trade him later.

I'd take gay for a 2nd round pick. He no longer fits in Utah and that's probably all Danny can get for him.

At that money given his production, he should cost a 2nd round swap at most.

2nd round picks are for sale every year. If you can get a player that will help bring home a championship, you do it.

Sure, but Gay isn't that player.

The more playable vets on our bench the better.

The Jazz found him unplayable last season in the playoffs.

He'd be our 12th-13th man. I don't think we'd play him in the playoffs either but he'd help us get there fresher than last year.

You don't pay $13 million in salary on top of massive luxury taxes and add in a pick for a player like that.

[Vermont Green]

Rudy Gay has 2 years left at $6.2M and $6.5M.  He would fit the Juancho Hernangomez TPE which expires in Jan 2023.  You would think that UTA would very much like to move that contract.  We should not have to give up anything to take him on.  But Ainge probably wants a pick for him.

As to what is left in his tank, I did not seen him play all that much last season.  I don't recall him being very good.  Utah probably figures they can just wait until someone is more desperate due to injury along the way.  No need to just give him away at this point.  Can always trade him later.

I'd take gay for a 2nd round pick. He no longer fits in Utah and that's probably all Danny can get for him.

At that money given his production, he should cost a 2nd round swap at most.

2nd round picks are for sale every year. If you can get a player that will help bring home a championship, you do it.

Sure, but Gay isn't that player.

The more playable vets on our bench the better.

The Jazz found him unplayable last season in the playoffs.

He'd be our 12th-13th man. I don't think we'd play him in the playoffs either but he'd help us get there fresher than last year.

You don't pay $13 million in salary on top of massive luxury taxes and add in a pick for a player like that.

If Rudy Gay is no better than 12th or 13th on our team, then no, you don't want him and you certainly don't give up assets to get him.  I don't know what happened in the playoff last season for Utah not to play him but through the regular season, he was playing nearly 20 min per game (9th most on the team).  His advanced stats had him as an "average" NBA player.  Average on a 15 man team is 7th or 8th best on the team, so 9th on a good team is about right.  In our case, I would want him to be the primary back up to Tatum, ahead of Hauser, ahead probably of Pritchard, in the mix with Gallinari or Grant, behind White and Brogdon.  Not at the end of the bench with Vonleh and Kornet.

If the Celtics have come to the conclusion that he is no better than 12th or 13th on the team, I can understand why they have not gotten him.

[celticsclay]

I would rather Dwight, Carmelo or cousins at this point.

[liam]

Rudy Gay has 2 years left at $6.2M and $6.5M.  He would fit the Juancho Hernangomez TPE which expires in Jan 2023.  You would think that UTA would very much like to move that contract.  We should not have to give up anything to take him on.  But Ainge probably wants a pick for him.

As to what is left in his tank, I did not seen him play all that much last season.  I don't recall him being very good.  Utah probably figures they can just wait until someone is more desperate due to injury along the way.  No need to just give him away at this point.  Can always trade him later.

I'd take gay for a 2nd round pick. He no longer fits in Utah and that's probably all Danny can get for him.

At that money given his production, he should cost a 2nd round swap at most.

2nd round picks are for sale every year. If you can get a player that will help bring home a championship, you do it.

Sure, but Gay isn't that player.

The more playable vets on our bench the better.

The Jazz found him unplayable last season in the playoffs.

He'd be our 12th-13th man. I don't think we'd play him in the playoffs either but he'd help us get there fresher than last year.

You don't pay $13 million in salary on top of massive luxury taxes and add in a pick for a player like that.

If Rudy Gay is no better than 12th or 13th on our team, then no, you don't want him and you certainly don't give up assets to get him.  I don't know what happened in the playoff last season for Utah not to play him but through the regular season, he was playing nearly 20 min per game (9th most on the team).  His advanced stats had him as an "average" NBA player.  Average on a 15 man team is 7th or 8th best on the team, so 9th on a good team is about right.  In our case, I would want him to be the primary back up to Tatum, ahead of Hauser, ahead probably of Pritchard, in the mix with Gallinari or Grant, behind White and Brogdon.  Not at the end of the bench with Vonleh and Kornet.

If the Celtics have come to the conclusion that he is no better than 12th or 13th on the team, I can understand why they have not gotten him.

Jaylen Brown
Jason Tatum
Al Horford
TIMELORD
Smart
Brogdon
D White
Grant Williams
Gallinari

Would Gay be the 10th man?

We have the sixth highest payroll. I'd send more to fill in anyone who might be useful. It's a long season.

[Big333223]

What about Jarred Vanderbilt?

He can't shoot so he'd be tough to play next to Timelord but he'd be a terrific backup big and I doubt he's in Utah's long term plans. Plus he makes about $4 mil a year.

[Surferdad]

Rudy Gay has 2 years left at $6.2M and $6.5M.  He would fit the Juancho Hernangomez TPE which expires in Jan 2023.  You would think that UTA would very much like to move that contract.  We should not have to give up anything to take him on.  But Ainge probably wants a pick for him.

As to what is left in his tank, I did not seen him play all that much last season.  I don't recall him being very good.  Utah probably figures they can just wait until someone is more desperate due to injury along the way.  No need to just give him away at this point.  Can always trade him later.

I'd take gay for a 2nd round pick. He no longer fits in Utah and that's probably all Danny can get for him.

At that money given his production, he should cost a 2nd round swap at most.

2nd round picks are for sale every year. If you can get a player that will help bring home a championship, you do it.

Sure, but Gay isn't that player.

The more playable vets on our bench the better.

The Jazz found him unplayable last season in the playoffs.

He'd be our 12th-13th man. I don't think we'd play him in the playoffs either but he'd help us get there fresher than last year.

You don't pay $13 million in salary on top of massive luxury taxes and add in a pick for a player like that.

If Rudy Gay is no better than 12th or 13th on our team, then no, you don't want him and you certainly don't give up assets to get him.  I don't know what happened in the playoff last season for Utah not to play him but through the regular season, he was playing nearly 20 min per game (9th most on the team).  His advanced stats had him as an "average" NBA player.  Average on a 15 man team is 7th or 8th best on the team, so 9th on a good team is about right.  In our case, I would want him to be the primary back up to Tatum, ahead of Hauser, ahead probably of Pritchard, in the mix with Gallinari or Grant, behind White and Brogdon.  Not at the end of the bench with Vonleh and Kornet.

If the Celtics have come to the conclusion that he is no better than 12th or 13th on the team, I can understand why they have not gotten him.

Jaylen Brown
Jason Tatum
Al Horford
TIMELORD
Smart
Brogdon
D White
Grant Williams
Gallinari

Would Gay be the 10th man?

We have the sixth highest payroll. I'd send more to fill in anyone who might be useful. It's a long season.

Gallo out so he would be no lower than 9th. Depending on matchups, Gay could be ahead of White and/or Grant, so he would be in the 7th-9th range. Still the money kills the idea.

[Moranis]

Rudy Gay has 2 years left at $6.2M and $6.5M.  He would fit the Juancho Hernangomez TPE which expires in Jan 2023.  You would think that UTA would very much like to move that contract.  We should not have to give up anything to take him on.  But Ainge probably wants a pick for him.

As to what is left in his tank, I did not seen him play all that much last season.  I don't recall him being very good.  Utah probably figures they can just wait until someone is more desperate due to injury along the way.  No need to just give him away at this point.  Can always trade him later.

I'd take gay for a 2nd round pick. He no longer fits in Utah and that's probably all Danny can get for him.

At that money given his production, he should cost a 2nd round swap at most.

2nd round picks are for sale every year. If you can get a player that will help bring home a championship, you do it.

Sure, but Gay isn't that player.

The more playable vets on our bench the better.

The Jazz found him unplayable last season in the playoffs.

He'd be our 12th-13th man. I don't think we'd play him in the playoffs either but he'd help us get there fresher than last year.

You don't pay $13 million in salary on top of massive luxury taxes and add in a pick for a player like that.

If Rudy Gay is no better than 12th or 13th on our team, then no, you don't want him and you certainly don't give up assets to get him.  I don't know what happened in the playoff last season for Utah not to play him but through the regular season, he was playing nearly 20 min per game (9th most on the team).  His advanced stats had him as an "average" NBA player.  Average on a 15 man team is 7th or 8th best on the team, so 9th on a good team is about right.  In our case, I would want him to be the primary back up to Tatum, ahead of Hauser, ahead probably of Pritchard, in the mix with Gallinari or Grant, behind White and Brogdon.  Not at the end of the bench with Vonleh and Kornet.

If the Celtics have come to the conclusion that he is no better than 12th or 13th on the team, I can understand why they have not gotten him.

Jaylen Brown
Jason Tatum
Al Horford
TIMELORD
Smart
Brogdon
D White
Grant Williams
Gallinari

Would Gay be the 10th man?

We have the sixth highest payroll. I'd send more to fill in anyone who might be useful. It's a long season.

Gallo out so he would be no lower than 9th. Depending on matchups, Gay could be ahead of White and/or Grant, so he would be in the 7th-9th range. Still the money kills the idea.

Money only kills the idea if you don't think Boston is a real contender, because for a real contender money wouldn't kill the idea.

[liam]

Rudy Gay has 2 years left at $6.2M and $6.5M.  He would fit the Juancho Hernangomez TPE which expires in Jan 2023.  You would think that UTA would very much like to move that contract.  We should not have to give up anything to take him on.  But Ainge probably wants a pick for him.

As to what is left in his tank, I did not seen him play all that much last season.  I don't recall him being very good.  Utah probably figures they can just wait until someone is more desperate due to injury along the way.  No need to just give him away at this point.  Can always trade him later.

I'd take gay for a 2nd round pick. He no longer fits in Utah and that's probably all Danny can get for him.

At that money given his production, he should cost a 2nd round swap at most.

2nd round picks are for sale every year. If you can get a player that will help bring home a championship, you do it.

Sure, but Gay isn't that player.

The more playable vets on our bench the better.

The Jazz found him unplayable last season in the playoffs.

He'd be our 12th-13th man. I don't think we'd play him in the playoffs either but he'd help us get there fresher than last year.

You don't pay $13 million in salary on top of massive luxury taxes and add in a pick for a player like that.

If Rudy Gay is no better than 12th or 13th on our team, then no, you don't want him and you certainly don't give up assets to get him.  I don't know what happened in the playoff last season for Utah not to play him but through the regular season, he was playing nearly 20 min per game (9th most on the team).  His advanced stats had him as an "average" NBA player.  Average on a 15 man team is 7th or 8th best on the team, so 9th on a good team is about right.  In our case, I would want him to be the primary back up to Tatum, ahead of Hauser, ahead probably of Pritchard, in the mix with Gallinari or Grant, behind White and Brogdon.  Not at the end of the bench with Vonleh and Kornet.

If the Celtics have come to the conclusion that he is no better than 12th or 13th on the team, I can understand why they have not gotten him.

Jaylen Brown
Jason Tatum
Al Horford
TIMELORD
Smart
Brogdon
D White
Grant Williams
Gallinari

Would Gay be the 10th man?

We have the sixth highest payroll. I'd send more to fill in anyone who might be useful. It's a long season.

Gallo out so he would be no lower than 9th. Depending on matchups, Gay could be ahead of White and/or Grant, so he would be in the 7th-9th range. Still the money kills the idea.

Money only kills the idea if you don't think Boston is a real contender, because for a real contender money wouldn't kill the idea.

Agreed! Pony up!

[Birdman]

I say Ainge would trade Gay to anyone for a second & get rid of his 2 year deal

[bogg]

I say Ainge would trade Gay to anyone for a second & get rid of his 2 year deal

Yea, the big appeal when it comes to Rudy is that he'd presumably be free but is probably still good enough to play a backup role while soaking up some more major minutes on random January/February nights when you're shorthanded.

[celticsclay]

Did people not think gay looked washed up last year?

[kraidstar]

Utah fans despise Rudy Gay and wanted him out the door before Gobert and Gay were even traded. Said he was a selfish player and doesn't defend anymore. It is remarkable the number of fans who hold contempt for him.

If we're going to use our TPEs we should try to get more of an impact player.