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New England Revolution Stadium in Everett
« on: July 18, 2022, 04:04:00 PM »

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This was dropped on Friday but it could be a huge thing for Everett and Revolution/soccer fans.

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The Massachusetts House passed legislation late Thursday that could clear the way for Robert Kraft to build a long-sought soccer stadium for the New England Revolution on a waterfront property steps from the Encore Boston Harbor casino in Everett.

That means that the power plant across from the casino could turn into a stadium. I think that is so much better than going to Foxboro for games. A new state of the art stadium that could be used for other things, then use additional space for restaurants, bars and other source of entertainment. There is also all the water tanks near that could be transitioned to even more hotels and entertainment. They can completely change the area that is already out of the way from the rest of the community.

The way they got there is definitely shady, but I will take it.
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Without floor debate or public input, lawmakers added language to a wide-ranging, multibillion-dollar economic development bill Thursday evening that would exempt the 43-acre industrial property straddling the Everett and Boston line from a slew of environmental requirements so it could be developed as a ďsports, recreation or events center.Ē

As long as they develop an area for tailgating, I am excited for this.

https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2022/07/16/house-measure-eases-path-for-a-professional-soccer-stadium-in-everett/
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Re: New England Revolution Stadium in Everett
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2022, 04:25:39 PM »

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Yeah, the politics were a little sketchy, but itíd be better to have a soccer stadium there than the shut down (or soon to shut down) power plants.

It should also be relatively T accessible from the Assembly Square stop if they choose to consider pedestrians in its design.  Hopefully they will, because 16 can hardly handle more traffic.

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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2022, 04:31:10 PM »

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At the expense of sounding anti-soccer, what does the Revolution fan base look like? Iíve gone to multiple games over the years at Gillette, and the attendance is unimpressive. I know itís unreasonable to expect 65k people to show up, but are they attracting 1,000 fans? 2,000? Is this Field of Dreams logic: if we build it, they will come?

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2022, 04:37:54 PM »

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At the expense of sounding anti-soccer, what does the Revolution fan base look like? Iíve gone to multiple games over the years at Gillette, and the attendance is unimpressive. I know itís unreasonable to expect 65k people to show up, but are they attracting 1,000 fans? 2,000? Is this Field of Dreams logic: if we build it, they will come?

They draw about 15k on average.  In a stadium as large as Foxboro, that probably seems like nothing.  A smaller stadium would improve the atmosphere, as would bringing it closer to the population center.

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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2022, 05:00:13 PM »

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At the expense of sounding anti-soccer, what does the Revolution fan base look like? Iíve gone to multiple games over the years at Gillette, and the attendance is unimpressive. I know itís unreasonable to expect 65k people to show up, but are they attracting 1,000 fans? 2,000? Is this Field of Dreams logic: if we build it, they will come?

They draw about 15k on average.  In a stadium as large as Foxboro, that probably seems like nothing.  A smaller stadium would improve the atmosphere, as would bringing it closer to the population center.

Some of their last game they've drawn as much as 20k but as you mention, at Foxboro, even their biggest crowd looks like a puny amount when you see all of those empty seats. Plus, making a day to drive 40-60 minutes (from Boston and not including traffic and 25+ miles) may make sense for Patriots fans that are making into a whole day adventure, but not for a Revolution game.

There are many fans in the Greater Boston area that could do a Wednesday night game after work by taking the T over instead of turning into a mission to go all the way out there. It takes away from the suburban families but gives more access to a pretty big piece of pie.
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Re: New England Revolution Stadium in Everett
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2022, 05:16:46 PM »

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At the expense of sounding anti-soccer, what does the Revolution fan base look like? Iíve gone to multiple games over the years at Gillette, and the attendance is unimpressive. I know itís unreasonable to expect 65k people to show up, but are they attracting 1,000 fans? 2,000? Is this Field of Dreams logic: if we build it, they will come?

They draw about 15k on average.  In a stadium as large as Foxboro, that probably seems like nothing.  A smaller stadium would improve the atmosphere, as would bringing it closer to the population center.

Some of their last game they've drawn as much as 20k but as you mention, at Foxboro, even their biggest crowd looks like a puny amount when you see all of those empty seats. Plus, making a day to drive 40-60 minutes (from Boston and not including traffic and 25+ miles) may make sense for Patriots fans that are making into a whole day adventure, but not for a Revolution game.

There are many fans in the Greater Boston area that could do a Wednesday night game after work by taking the T over instead of turning into a mission to go all the way out there. It takes away from the suburban families but gives more access to a pretty big piece of pie.

Yeah.  Just a week or so ago my spouse and I were talking about going to a Revolution game, but determined that Foxboro was just too far a trip, as we'd probably spend as much time traveling as at the game.  But Everett?  I'm sure we'd go to a couple games a year.

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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2022, 05:50:37 PM »

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At the expense of sounding anti-soccer, what does the Revolution fan base look like? Iíve gone to multiple games over the years at Gillette, and the attendance is unimpressive. I know itís unreasonable to expect 65k people to show up, but are they attracting 1,000 fans? 2,000? Is this Field of Dreams logic: if we build it, they will come?

They draw about 15k on average.  In a stadium as large as Foxboro, that probably seems like nothing.  A smaller stadium would improve the atmosphere, as would bringing it closer to the population center.

Some of their last game they've drawn as much as 20k but as you mention, at Foxboro, even their biggest crowd looks like a puny amount when you see all of those empty seats. Plus, making a day to drive 40-60 minutes (from Boston and not including traffic and 25+ miles) may make sense for Patriots fans that are making into a whole day adventure, but not for a Revolution game.

There are many fans in the Greater Boston area that could do a Wednesday night game after work by taking the T over instead of turning into a mission to go all the way out there. It takes away from the suburban families but gives more access to a pretty big piece of pie.

Yeah.  Just a week or so ago my spouse and I were talking about going to a Revolution game, but determined that Foxboro was just too far a trip, as we'd probably spend as much time traveling as at the game.  But Everett?  I'm sure we'd go to a couple games a year.

I do hope they keep the tailgating part of the experience though. Whenever my friends and I go to games, one of the perks is that we can park for free and since we all come from different directions, that's a big plus. We get there early and have our tailgating experience. For most of us, the game is secondary to just hanging out in the parking lot.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2022, 06:36:08 PM »

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At the expense of sounding anti-soccer, what does the Revolution fan base look like? Iíve gone to multiple games over the years at Gillette, and the attendance is unimpressive. I know itís unreasonable to expect 65k people to show up, but are they attracting 1,000 fans? 2,000? Is this Field of Dreams logic: if we build it, they will come?

They draw about 15k on average.  In a stadium as large as Foxboro, that probably seems like nothing.  A smaller stadium would improve the atmosphere, as would bringing it closer to the population center.

Some of their last game they've drawn as much as 20k but as you mention, at Foxboro, even their biggest crowd looks like a puny amount when you see all of those empty seats. Plus, making a day to drive 40-60 minutes (from Boston and not including traffic and 25+ miles) may make sense for Patriots fans that are making into a whole day adventure, but not for a Revolution game.

There are many fans in the Greater Boston area that could do a Wednesday night game after work by taking the T over instead of turning into a mission to go all the way out there. It takes away from the suburban families but gives more access to a pretty big piece of pie.

Yeah.  Just a week or so ago my spouse and I were talking about going to a Revolution game, but determined that Foxboro was just too far a trip, as we'd probably spend as much time traveling as at the game.  But Everett?  I'm sure we'd go to a couple games a year.

I do hope they keep the tailgating part of the experience though. Whenever my friends and I go to games, one of the perks is that we can park for free and since we all come from different directions, that's a big plus. We get there early and have our tailgating experience. For most of us, the game is secondary to just hanging out in the parking lot.

Unfortunately itís unlikely theyíll keep parking free, or have quite as much.  Foxboro is designed to hold many more people and thus more cars.  They canít replicate that in Everett, or any other more central location.

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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2022, 07:22:52 PM »

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Those tanks in Everett aren't water tanks. They are LNG tanks, liquified natural gas. Getting rid of that will be extremely costly given the pipelines it is connected to and supplies. Also, in that area is one of the largest scrap metal yards in all of New England that generates tons of tax revenue. Good luck moving that

Yes, Everett is cleaning their 2nd Street area of the metal.scrapyards there for development, but it's been a long tough journey and several are still hanging on there.

Also, doing this is going to require a ton more infrastructure work for routes 99 and 16 that go through Everett. Good luck finding money to do that.

It's an interesting idea and I would love to see it happen as a pitch there for the Revs could attract summer outdoor concerts, the NHL Winter Classic, huge international friendly games in soccer, USMNT and USWNT games and so much more that aren't available in the city of Boston currently except at Fenway. Boston tourism gets a huge boost and Everett tons of tax dollars rolling in.

The gentrification that's already happening in that area will be unreal.

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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2022, 07:51:40 PM »

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Those tanks in Everett aren't water tanks. They are LNG tanks, liquified natural gas. Getting rid of that will be extremely costly given the pipelines it is connected to and supplies. Also, in that area is one of the largest scrap metal yards in all of New England that generates tons of tax revenue. Good luck moving that

Yes, Everett is cleaning their 2nd Street area of the metal.scrapyards there for development, but it's been a long tough journey and several are still hanging on there.

Also, doing this is going to require a ton more infrastructure work for routes 99 and 16 that go through Everett. Good luck finding money to do that.

It's an interesting idea and I would love to see it happen as a pitch there for the Revs could attract summer outdoor concerts, the NHL Winter Classic, huge international friendly games in soccer, USMNT and USWNT games and so much more that aren't available in the city of Boston currently except at Fenway. Boston tourism gets a huge boost and Everett tons of tax dollars rolling in.

The gentrification that's already happening in that area will be unreal.

The area this specifically refers to is the oil power plants that just got mothballed last year.  Also not the easiest to clear out, but itís not the LNG station, which are still operating for a couple more years.

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2022, 07:51:50 PM »

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Double post.  Oops! :-[

Re: New England Revolution Stadium in Everett
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2022, 09:02:16 PM »

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Those tanks in Everett aren't water tanks. They are LNG tanks, liquified natural gas. Getting rid of that will be extremely costly given the pipelines it is connected to and supplies. Also, in that area is one of the largest scrap metal yards in all of New England that generates tons of tax revenue. Good luck moving that

Yes, Everett is cleaning their 2nd Street area of the metal.scrapyards there for development, but it's been a long tough journey and several are still hanging on there.

Also, doing this is going to require a ton more infrastructure work for routes 99 and 16 that go through Everett. Good luck finding money to do that.

It's an interesting idea and I would love to see it happen as a pitch there for the Revs could attract summer outdoor concerts, the NHL Winter Classic, huge international friendly games in soccer, USMNT and USWNT games and so much more that aren't available in the city of Boston currently except at Fenway. Boston tourism gets a huge boost and Everett tons of tax dollars rolling in.

The gentrification that's already happening in that area will be unreal.

The area this specifically refers to is the oil power plants that just got mothballed last year.  Also not the easiest to clear out, but itís not the LNG station, which are still operating for a couple more years.
Except, they are right on top of each other. Putting a stadium just yards away from an LNG facility, even if for just a couple/few years, won't exactly look good. Or smell good...if you've been near those tanks, you know what I mean.

Better to buy that entire area. Power plant, LNG facility and Prolerized(the scrap yard). The amount of development that could happen along that coastline of the mouth of the Mystic is unlimited if you own all that property and rid the Line (south Everett)of all that environmentally unfriendly, ugly businesses.