How about SGA as a fit?

[colincb]

He's had a negative defensive RAPTOR score for each of the past 4 years in the NBA. JB has not had one. Otherwise, he's probably a better offensive player, but he's not a 2-way player.

Overall Estimated +/- (EPM) seems to have him on the same path as Brown, but again, more of an offensive talent than a 2-way talent.

[Csfan1984]

He's had a negative defensive RAPTOR score for each of the past 4 years in the NBA. JB has not had one. Otherwise, he's probably a better offensive player, but he's not a 2-way player.

Overall Estimated +/- (EPM) seems to have him on the same path as Brown, but again, more of an offensive talent than a 2-way talent.

Good post. This is partially why I say the idea of having to give up Brown to get SGA isn't accurate. SGA for many is behind the value of Brown. Wings are too important to the modern NBA. Guards have less value unless they can hit 3s at a high clip. Giving up a mix of picks and higher end roleplayers is more the package to get a top end PG/SG today.

[nickagneta]

So you're proposing sending a team that has a bazillion first round picks more 1st round picks? OKC has more picks than roster slots over the next few years. The last thing they want to get in return for their current franchise cornerstone is more picks, picks that look like they will be way down in the late first round.

As Moranis pointed out, teams like Sactown with high picks are more likely to have something OKC wants.

Also, SGA is not available. Not now.

Here is a look at the OKC treasure trove of picks. They obviously don't need more

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nba/thunder/.amp/draft-coverage/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-thunders-future-draft-picks

[Csfan1984]

So you're proposing sending a team that has a bazillion first round picks more 1st round picks? OKC has more picks than roster slots over the next few years. The last thing they want to get in return for their current franchise cornerstone is more picks, picks that look like they will be way down in the late first round.

As Moranis pointed out, teams like Sactown with high picks are more likely to have something OKC wants.

Also, SGA is not available. Not now.

Here is a look at the OKC treasure trove of picks. They obviously don't need more

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nba/thunder/.amp/draft-coverage/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-thunders-future-draft-picks

A rebuilding team can never have enough 1st. They continue to sit SGA and tank so what is the point to holding onto SGA?

[mr. dee]

SGA will command a hefty price in the market. He's OKC's most prized player right now, apparently .Would we want to send multiple picks and some of our rotational players?

[nickagneta]

So you're proposing sending a team that has a bazillion first round picks more 1st round picks? OKC has more picks than roster slots over the next few years. The last thing they want to get in return for their current franchise cornerstone is more picks, picks that look like they will be way down in the late first round.

As Moranis pointed out, teams like Sactown with high picks are more likely to have something OKC wants.

Also, SGA is not available. Not now.

Here is a look at the OKC treasure trove of picks. They obviously don't need more

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nba/thunder/.amp/draft-coverage/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-thunders-future-draft-picks

A rebuilding team can never have enough 1st. They continue to sit SGA and tank so what is the point to holding onto SGA?

Actually Ainge kinda proved you can have too many 1st round picks. 11 first in the next 3 years. How are they keeping their current youth while having roster slots for 11 players? And that's just 1st rounders. OKC has 5 2nd rounders in that time as well.

Also, they didn't sit SGA. He was out due to injury.

[Csfan1984]

So you're proposing sending a team that has a bazillion first round picks more 1st round picks? OKC has more picks than roster slots over the next few years. The last thing they want to get in return for their current franchise cornerstone is more picks, picks that look like they will be way down in the late first round.

As Moranis pointed out, teams like Sactown with high picks are more likely to have something OKC wants.

Also, SGA is not available. Not now.

Here is a look at the OKC treasure trove of picks. They obviously don't need more

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nba/thunder/.amp/draft-coverage/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-thunders-future-draft-picks

A rebuilding team can never have enough 1st. They continue to sit SGA and tank so what is the point to holding onto SGA?

Actually Ainge kinda proved you can have too many 1st round picks. 11 first in the next 3 years. How are they keeping their current youth while having roster slots for 11 players? And that's just 1st rounders. OKC has 5 2nd rounders in that time as well.

Also, they didn't sit SGA. He was out due to injury.

DA's problem was not moving on from current players on the roster soon enough. Then opting for stash players due to the cheap ownership.

As I said in original post SGA sitting has been questionable. Is it on basis of tanking or actual injuries? OKC sat Al and he was healthy. Numerous teams have tanked and sat stars with fake injuries. Spurs in Ducan year and even Celtics with Pierce in KD/Oden year. Rondo even sat in the year we got Smart. Tanking happens to healthy players.

[nickagneta]

So you're proposing sending a team that has a bazillion first round picks more 1st round picks? OKC has more picks than roster slots over the next few years. The last thing they want to get in return for their current franchise cornerstone is more picks, picks that look like they will be way down in the late first round.

As Moranis pointed out, teams like Sactown with high picks are more likely to have something OKC wants.

Also, SGA is not available. Not now.

Here is a look at the OKC treasure trove of picks. They obviously don't need more

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nba/thunder/.amp/draft-coverage/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-thunders-future-draft-picks

A rebuilding team can never have enough 1st. They continue to sit SGA and tank so what is the point to holding onto SGA?

Actually Ainge kinda proved you can have too many 1st round picks. 11 first in the next 3 years. How are they keeping their current youth while having roster slots for 11 players? And that's just 1st rounders. OKC has 5 2nd rounders in that time as well.

Also, they didn't sit SGA. He was out due to injury.

DA's problem was not moving on from current players on the roster soon enough. Then opting for stash players due to the cheap ownership.

As I said in original post SGA sitting has been questionable. Is it on basis of tanking or actual injuries? OKC sat Al and he was healthy. Numerous teams have tanked and sat stars with fake injuries. Spurs in Ducan year and even Celtics with Pierce in KD/Oden year. Rondo even sat in the year we got Smart. Tanking happens to healthy players.

OKC came out and stated they were sitting Al. They actually listed SGA on the injury report. Huge difference. He was hurt.

They have 11 1st rounders and 5 seconds in the next 3 drafts. Just 17 slots and SGA, Dort, Giddy, Poku, Mann as keepers and interesting youth like Maledon, Bazley and Roby to think about keeping.

They will not need more picks especially if they are in the 27-30 area.

The whole idea is simply not realistic in any way.

[Csfan1984]

So you're proposing sending a team that has a bazillion first round picks more 1st round picks? OKC has more picks than roster slots over the next few years. The last thing they want to get in return for their current franchise cornerstone is more picks, picks that look like they will be way down in the late first round.

As Moranis pointed out, teams like Sactown with high picks are more likely to have something OKC wants.

Also, SGA is not available. Not now.

Here is a look at the OKC treasure trove of picks. They obviously don't need more

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nba/thunder/.amp/draft-coverage/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-thunders-future-draft-picks

A rebuilding team can never have enough 1st. They continue to sit SGA and tank so what is the point to holding onto SGA?

Actually Ainge kinda proved you can have too many 1st round picks. 11 first in the next 3 years. How are they keeping their current youth while having roster slots for 11 players? And that's just 1st rounders. OKC has 5 2nd rounders in that time as well.

Also, they didn't sit SGA. He was out due to injury.

DA's problem was not moving on from current players on the roster soon enough. Then opting for stash players due to the cheap ownership.

As I said in original post SGA sitting has been questionable. Is it on basis of tanking or actual injuries? OKC sat Al and he was healthy. Numerous teams have tanked and sat stars with fake injuries. Spurs in Ducan year and even Celtics with Pierce in KD/Oden year. Rondo even sat in the year we got Smart. Tanking happens to healthy players.

OKC came out and stated they were sitting Al. They actually listed SGA on the injury report. Huge difference. He was hurt.

They have 11 1st rounders and 5 seconds in the next 3 drafts. Just 17 slots and SGA, Dort, Giddy, Poku, Mann as keepers and interesting youth like Maledon, Bazley and Roby to think about keeping.

They will not need more picks especially if they are in the 27-30 area.

The whole idea is simply not realistic in any way.

Thats not a lot of keepers. Giddey and SGA are the only guys Id consider legit talent. OKC are tanking and sitting guys that's a fact. They are also rebuilding still that's a fact. That means they need picks till they actually hit on a top player or two that vaults them into playoff contention. Doesn't matter how many picks they have only if they hit. The more picks you have the better odds of hitting.

[gouki88]

SGA is a gun, but no way OKC ship him for less than a top 5 pick or a young All-Star calibre type (Brown, in this case)