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Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2022, 02:09:24 AM »

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Nah that stuff was real.

Hey couple thoughts cuz I've seen this all over social media.

First off, what Will did was quite obviously a wrong reaction. You don't go up and punch someone in response to a joke.

Second, I see people compare it to Ricky Gervais. There's a HUGE DIFFERENCE between making fun of people because they're ****s, and making fun of someone for their disease. Making fun of someone for doing something stupid is one thing, but making fun of someone for something that happened TO them, that's off. Way off.

Third, I can kinda see how it'd get Will fed up. This is literally the highest highlight of his career; an Oscar. Quite literally what he's worked towards his entire life. And then someone has the gall to make it possibly one of the lowest points of his wife's career, by making fun of her disease.

Yeah. Classless act by Chris Rock, amazing it got approved by the association, and well, Will should've handled that heaps differently.

Nobody looks good here.



.edit: also and not inimportantly; we seem to have lost grasp on our ability to tell what's real and what's fake in the media. Which is rather sad. I'll gladly eat my words if this was all staged though.

I think you’ve got the events all mixed up.

Chris Rock made the joke BEFORE Smith even knew he won.

These were all pre-approved jokes, Chris was just reading from a teleprompter.

You may find the joke in bad taste but it’s a joke, and it’s not about a woman’s life threatening disease, she’s just going bald.

What I find disgusting is that Smith walked over to Chris Rock, hit him, walked back to his seat and then swore at the top of his lungs and security did nothing. Essentially Chris was assaulted doing his job in front of hundreds of people, security and they all just let it happen. This is an example of why people despise Hollywood, because it’s just another example of powerful people doing what they like and no one doing a thing.

That's why I started by saying Will did the wrong thing.

That's why I said I was amazed the association approved the jokes.

And also I didn't imply this happened before he got the Oscar. I even saw the speech afterwards. Which was super emotional.



.edit: and I wrote that post because I think it's important to understand the difference between making jokes about people's choices, and making jokes about what's been done to someone. If you don't understand the difference between the two types of jokes, I dunno what else to tell you buddy.

.edit2: maybe the misunderstanding comes from the fact that I called it the association. Which, my bad, should've been the Academy. (I got that confused with the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, who host the Golden Globes.)

Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2022, 02:30:05 AM »

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Nah that stuff was real.

Hey couple thoughts cuz I've seen this all over social media.

First off, what Will did was quite obviously a wrong reaction. You don't go up and punch someone in response to a joke.

Second, I see people compare it to Ricky Gervais. There's a HUGE DIFFERENCE between making fun of people because they're ****s, and making fun of someone for their disease. Making fun of someone for doing something stupid is one thing, but making fun of someone for something that happened TO them, that's off. Way off.

Third, I can kinda see how it'd get Will fed up. This is literally the highest highlight of his career; an Oscar. Quite literally what he's worked towards his entire life. And then someone has the gall to make it possibly one of the lowest points of his wife's career, by making fun of her disease.

Yeah. Classless act by Chris Rock, amazing it got approved by the association, and well, Will should've handled that heaps differently.

Nobody looks good here.



.edit: also and not inimportantly; we seem to have lost grasp on our ability to tell what's real and what's fake in the media. Which is rather sad. I'll gladly eat my words if this was all staged though.

I think you’ve got the events all mixed up.

Chris Rock made the joke BEFORE Smith even knew he won.

These were all pre-approved jokes, Chris was just reading from a teleprompter.

You may find the joke in bad taste but it’s a joke, and it’s not about a woman’s life threatening disease, she’s just going bald.

What I find disgusting is that Smith walked over to Chris Rock, hit him, walked back to his seat and then swore at the top of his lungs and security did nothing. Essentially Chris was assaulted doing his job in front of hundreds of people, security and they all just let it happen. This is an example of why people despise Hollywood, because it’s just another example of powerful people doing what they like and no one doing a thing.

That's why I started by saying Will did the wrong thing.

That's why I said I was amazed the association approved the jokes.

And also I didn't imply this happened before he got the Oscar. I even saw the speech afterwards. Which was super emotional.



.edit: and I wrote that post because I think it's important to understand the difference between making jokes about people's choices, and making jokes about what's been done to someone. If you don't understand the difference between the two types of jokes, I dunno what else to tell you buddy.

.edit2: maybe the misunderstanding comes from the fact that I called it the association. Which, my bad, should've been the Academy. (I got that confused with the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, who host the Golden Globes.)

My apologies I must have misread your post, sorry.
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Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2022, 02:39:13 AM »

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The Oscars ratings are abysmal so I wouldn’t doubt if it was fake. And if it was fake, Will Smith certainly deserves that Academy award.


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Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2022, 02:46:28 AM »

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Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2022, 03:16:42 AM »

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The Oscars ratings are abysmal so I wouldn’t doubt if it was fake. And if it was fake, Will Smith certainly deserves that Academy award.


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Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2022, 03:20:09 AM »

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The Oscars ratings are abysmal so I wouldn’t doubt if it was fake. And if it was fake, Will Smith certainly deserves that Academy award.


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Couldn’t be fake - they couldn’t orchestrate something this juicy

The only - still farfetched - thing I could believe is that they left the joke in on purpose, expecting a reaction that was FAR less violent. Which would be absolutely disgusting.

Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2022, 05:20:24 AM »

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Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2022, 06:05:50 AM »

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The justification of “protecting my family” is about as disgusting a piece of macho garbage as I’ve ever seen played out publicly.  The fact that he was and will be heralded by some for it is emblematic of the struggle this adolescent society is in the midst of.

 I didn’t hear the Chris Rock joke and I’m sure it was obnoxious but the response was in line with the grandiosity of his acceptance speech, in which King Will seems to see himself as one with great purpose for the world - and a god-appointed vesicle for love.   A love vesicle rationalizing violence as the deep emotional expression of his uniquely inspirational passion. 

Looked real to me.

Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2022, 06:27:31 AM »

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What I find disgusting is that Smith casually walked over to Chris Rock, hit him, walked back to his seat, swore at the top of his lungs…and security did nothing.

Chris was assaulted doing his job in front of hundreds of people and they all just let it happen.

Agreed.  It’s probably good for their ratings though.
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Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2022, 06:59:30 AM »

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The ratings are trending down and hurting.  This was a publicity stunt.

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« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2022, 07:00:10 AM »

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Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2022, 07:25:09 AM »

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The ratings are trending down and hurting.  This was a publicity stunt.

I hope so.  TBH, Rock's response was clearly taken aback, thrown off, and seemingly real -- though far less deterred than I would have been under the circumstances.  If planned, I think Rock would have come out of it with something better than he did.  And Smith, who initially laughed at the joke, comes off looking maniacal and later, grandiose.

From a historical context, America sees a black man win an best actor Oscar as a black woman is nominated to the supreme court and then watches that black man assault another black man for making a joke.  Jada of course perfectly capable of defending herself if she wanted to address it afterward.  Will, of course, making it about him.... and "love".   

Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2022, 08:51:06 AM »

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This was obviously stage by Jake Paul to hype an undercard bout at his next fight.

Re: Will Smith smacks Chris Rock at Oscars
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2022, 10:29:05 AM »

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What a weird story to wake up and find out about this morning.

Watched the video clip and noticed Will laughed at the joke at first while Jada didn't. Then Will gets up and slaps Rock. Guess he needed to do something dramatic to make up for it.

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« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2022, 10:30:58 AM »

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That ranks up there for one of the most surreal, did that really just happen moments I've seen on live TV.


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