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Re: The Return of the Ratings King: Bring Kyrie Back?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2021, 01:36:49 AM »

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Just change your name to BlacklyBlacky because only a Brooklyn fan would propose that trade.
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Re: The Return of the Ratings King: Bring Kyrie Back?
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2021, 05:03:00 AM »

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It’s not a troll job. We all recognize it is completely off the wall, but think about it:

If Kyrie is betrayed by his supposed BFF KD and sidekick Harden (and Harden is clearly PO’d at Kyrie), who would have to sign off on any trade, we can totally see Kyrie being on a mission wherever he lands next.

He can easily blame his departure on Ainge and say that we’re all good now—he can state he’s never had an issue with Stevens, Tatum, Brown and Smart, and he’s excited to be coached by Udoka.

It’s possibly our only way to score a Big 3 this season, and Kyrie is a truly amazing talent when he’s motivated, focused and not distracting folks.

Furthermore, he’s super popular with players around the league, so rebuilding this allegiance could be huge for our long-term rep, including the rep of GM BS who is clearly not Danny. Bring back IT at the same time and we truly rebuild our rep with the players.

All in all, firmly believe if package one or two gets the job done, we should go for it. To heck with the past. We need a third star to get past the Nets and Bucks, and if it’s Kyrie after all, well, so be it!

Too many ifs, Greenly. IF KD and Harden betray Cryrie (they won't)...IF he is willing to return to a place he blew off (he won't)...IF Brooklyn accepts either of your (very generous to us) trade proposals (not just no but HELL NO)...IF he has matured and is willing to take a backseat to two kids (his words) that haven't won jack yet...too many dominos that need to fall for it to work. Won't happen.
Any odd typos are because I suck at typing on an iPhone :D

Re: The Return of the Ratings King: Bring Kyrie Back?
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2021, 05:56:52 AM »

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I don’t want to think about it, because trying to comprehend the idea of a Celtics fan wanting to bring Kyrie back will drive me insane.
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: The Return of the Ratings King: Bring Kyrie Back?
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2021, 08:29:54 AM »

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I didn't want Irving the first time and I certainly don't want him now.  I wouldn't even sign him if he got waived and agreed to play for the minimum.
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Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

Re: The Return of the Ratings King: Bring Kyrie Back?
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2021, 09:34:58 AM »

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 I'd like a three team but it being

C's send out
Smart, and Horford
C's get
D-Russ and Joe Harris
These are good shooters for Jays.

Net send out
Irving
Nets get
Horford and Smart.
These are guys KD has said he wants to play with.

Wolves send out
D-Russ
Wolves get
Irving
Irving will get the vaccine once he is able to purify himself in Lake Minnetonka  ;D

Idea: Move Tatum for a Big 3 & Build Around Jaylen
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2021, 01:43:09 PM »

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Something is not right with Jayson. Probably a crazy idea to trade him, but thoughts on this:

BOS In: Lillard, Simmons
POR In: Tatum, Horford
PHI In: McCollum, Langford, 2022 BOS 1st

Leaves us with a completely different look, and perhaps we add a 15th guy with a TPE:

Lillard/Schröder/Pritchard
Smart/Richardson
Brown/Nesmith/Juancho
Simmons/Williams/Parker
Timelord/Kanter/Fernando

If Brown continues his maturation, Simmons relaxes and becomes a dominant paint guy who can kick out to the open man, and Lillard continues to beast mode, I can actually see this team winning it all. A big risk is Lillard’s age but athletes are playing much longer than in the past, so it’s possible Lillard can be elite another 4-6 years (no guarantee Jaylen or Tatum is going to re-sign with us either, so age should not dominate all).

It’s no secret that I am skeptical JT and JB alone can truly excel together, let alone get us where we need to go (another title!). Perhaps we need to examine moving JT while his value is so high, especially considering how Jaylen just continues to grow quietly each year (hopefully he’ll never stop the trend)…

Re: Idea: Move Tatum for a Big 3 & Build Around Jaylen
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2021, 04:27:14 PM »

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How many second round picks do you think the Celtics could wiggle out of the other teams in this proposal?

Re: Idea: Move Tatum for a Big 3 & Build Around Jaylen
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2021, 04:28:53 PM »

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I'm actually a fan of this, but it doesn't make that much sense for the Blazers even though the value is fair for them - they've gone all in in building around a superstar with Lillard's skillset.
Jaylen Brown for All-NBA

Re: Idea: Move Tatum for a Big 3 & Build Around Jaylen
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2021, 04:33:52 PM »

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Moved on from trading Brown in every trade proposal to this?
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Idea: Move Tatum for a Big 3 & Build Around Jaylen
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2021, 04:40:23 PM »

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If Lillard goes on the market, the Sixers are going to go after him themselves not help us get him. 
Portland trading both Lillard and McCollum makes little sense and they could get a better return for them if they did. 

Re: Idea: Move Tatum for a Big 3 & Build Around Jaylen
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2021, 04:45:19 PM »

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If Lillard goes on the market, the Sixers are going to go after him themselves not help us get him. 
Portland trading both Lillard and McCollum makes little sense and they could get a better return for them if they did.
I didn't even read the trade proposal itself. Having done so... wow. Why on earth do Portland give up Lillard (currently better than Tatum) and McCollum (better than Horford)? If they got Tatum and Simmons in return, maybe.
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Idea: Move Tatum for a Big 3 & Build Around Jaylen
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2021, 05:09:55 PM »

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I knew it was Greenly just from the topic….Portland and Philly hang up on Brad.

Re: Idea: Move Tatum for a Big 3 & Build Around Jaylen
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2021, 05:15:08 PM »

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I asked in the Knicks game thread..Tatum for Randle who says no. I think the answer is clear now.

Re: Idea: Move Tatum for a Big 3 & Build Around Jaylen
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2021, 05:17:03 PM »

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I asked in the Knicks game thread..Tatum for Randle who says no. I think the answer is clear now.
This is just as much an overreaction as the trade proposal
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Idea: Move Tatum for a Big 3 & Build Around Jaylen
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2021, 05:41:54 PM »

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I asked in the Knicks game thread..Tatum for Randle who says no. I think the answer is clear now.
This is just as much an overreaction as the trade proposal

Who says no, Goukki? I honestly really don’t know. I think it’s a toss up at this point because Tatum has so much promise but Randle is performing now.