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Pacers (2-1) at Celtics (3-0) Game #4 11/1/23
« on: October 31, 2023, 10:16:40 PM »

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Indiana Pacers (2-1) at Boston Celtics (3-0)
Wednesday, November 1, 2023
7:30 PM ET
Game #4, Home Game #2
TV:   NBCSB, BSIN, NBA-LP
Radio: 98.5 Sports Hub, 107.5 The Fan
TD Garden




Probable Starters
 
PG: Jrue Holiday     ...................................... SG: Derrick White


C:  Kristaps Porzingis


SF:  Jaylen Brown   ............................................ PF: Jayson Tatum

Celtics Reserves
Delano Banton
Oshae Brissett
Sam Hauser
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Svi Mykhailiuk
Payton Pritchard
Lamar Stevens
Jordan Walsh

2 Way Players
JD Davison
Nathan Knight
Neemias Queta
 
Injuries/Out
Neemias Queta (foot)  doubtful

Head Coach
Joe Mazzulla


Probable Starters
   
PG:  Tyrese Haliburton.................................................. SG:  Bruce Brown

 
C:  Miles Turner

   
SF: Bennedict Mathurin  .............................................. PF: Obi Toppin

Pacers Reserves

Buddy Hield
Isaiah Jackson
TJ McConnell
Andrew Nembhard
Aaron Nesmith
Jordan Nwora
Ben Sheppard
Daniel Theis
Jarace Walker

Two Way Players
Kendall Brown
Oscar Tshiebwe
Isaiah Wong

Injuries/Out
Jalen Smith (knee) questionable
Tyrese Haliburton (ankle) questionable
Benedict Mathurin (elbow)  questionable

Head Coach
Rick Carlisle

Game Notes
The Celtics host the Indiana Pacers for the first of 4 meetings this season.  They will meet again in Boston on January 30.  They will meet twice in Indiana on January 6 and January 8.  The Celtics won the series last season 2-1.   They won one game in Boston and one in Indiana while the Pacers won their only game in the series in Boston.  The Celtics are 106-83 all time overall and 66-28 all time in games in Boston.

So far this season,  the Celtics have alternated one game on the road and one game at home.  After this home game, however, they will go on a 3 game road trip that will take them through Brooklyn, Minnesota, and Philadelphia.  The Pacers have also alternated home, away, home and away games.  After this game on the road they will return home for a 5 game home stand. 

The Celtics have won their first 3 games over the Knicks, Heat and Wizards.   The Pacers have won 2 games over the Wizards and the Cavaliers and then lost 112-105 to the Bulls on Monday.   Last season the Celtics finished 57-25 overall and 34-18 in the East.  The Pacers finished last season 35-47 overall and 24-28 in the East.  The Pacers have added some championship DNA with Bruce Brown along with Obi Toppin from the Knicks and 3 rookies.  They lost Oshae Brissett to the Celtics and Chris Duarte to the Kings. 

Two Way player Neemias Queta is once again on the injury list with a foot injury.  He is listed as doubtful.  For the Pacers, Tyrese Haliburton is questionable after twisting an ankle in Monday's game. Benedict Mathurin is also questionable after injuring his elbow in Monday's game.  Jalen Smith is also questionable with a knee sprain.  All three players are considered to be a game time decision.   

Key Matchups
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Jrue Holiday vs Tyrese Haliburton
Haliburton is averaging 20 points, 5.3 rebounds, 12.3 assists and 1.0 steal per game.  He is shooting 45.8% from the field and 33.3% from beyond the arc.  If Haliburton can't play due to the ankle injury, TJ McConnell is likely to get the start in his place.  McConnell is averaging 6 points, 1.5 rebounds, and 5 assists per game.  He is shooting 71.4% from the field and has not shot a 3 pointer as yet. 

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Kristaps Porzingis vs Myles Turner
Turner is averaging 17 points, 10.3 rebounds, 1.7 assists, and 2.3 blocks per game.  He is shooting 50% from the field and 26.7% from beyond the arc.  Turner is a very good rim protector and hopefully Porzingis can draw him out of the paint. 

Honorable Mention

Jaylen Brown vs Benedict Mathurin
Mathurin is averaging 15.3 points, 2.7 rebounds and 2 assists per game.  He is shooting 41.7% from the field and 30.8% from beyond the arc.  He is dealing with an elbow injury and is questionable.  If he can't play,  Buddy Hield will likely start in his place.  Hield is averaging 11.7 points, 2.7 rebounds and 4.3 assists per game.  He is shooting 39.4% from the field and 40.9% from beyond the arc.  Whichever one starts, they will need to deal with Jaylen Brown, who has been playing very well for the Celtics. 

Keys to the Game
Defense - Defense is the key to winning every single game and if they hope to win a championship,  it will be with tough defense.  The Celtics are 11th in the league with a defensive rating of 107.3.  The Pacers are 14th with a defensive rating of 110.6.  The Celtics need to continue to make defense their identity and their priority.     The Celtics have to play tough defense to prevent the Pacers from getting out on the break and getting open shots.

Rebound - The Celtics are 2nd in the league, pulling down 50.7 rebounds per game.  The Pacers are 8th with 48.7 rebounds per game.  It is important to rebound the ball to give themselves extra possessions and to prevent the Pacers from getting the same along with 2nd chance points.  Much of rebounding is desire and effort and the Celtics have got to put out more effort on the boards than the Pacers if they want to get a win in this game.   

Be Aggressive -  The Celtics have to be the more aggressive team and they have to work harder and play harder than the Pacers.  They have to be more aggressive on defense, on the boards, in going after loose balls and on the 50-50 balls.  They have to be the team that wants it more and play like it.  The Pacers win games by playing harder than their opponents.   The Celtics have to play hard for 48 minutes and not build a lead and then let up or start slow and then have to play catch up.   They need to be more aggressive from start to finish.

Value Every Game -  In the past, the Celtics have lost to teams that they should have beat because they didn't take teams seriously.  Jaylen Brown explained that being talented invites a team to be complacent and lazy.   The Celtics can not approach games thinking they will win without having to play hard because every team is going to give them their best shot and if they want to win a championship they have to take every team seriously and approach every game as if it is a playoff game.  They can't take any games off. 

X-Factors
Home Game - The Celtics are home once again before they head out on a 3 game road trip.  They have the home crowd behind them to give them extra motivation.  The Pacers are on the road where they are faced with the distractions of travel, hotel stays and a hostile crowd.  The Celtics need to take advantage of playing at home and defend their home court.

Officiating - Officiating can always be an x-factor. Every officiating crew calls the game differently.   Will the refs call it tight?  Will they let them play? Will the Celtics spend more time complaining about fouls than actually shooting the ball?  Once again, the Celtics must adjust to the way the crew is calling the game and not allow it to become a distraction for them.  Most of all, they can't let the officiating make them lose their composure.

Re: Pacers (2-1) at Celtics (3-0) Game #4 11/1/23
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2023, 10:17:16 PM »

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Let's go Cs and make it 4 in a row.
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Re: Pacers (2-1) at Celtics (3-0) Game #4 11/1/23
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TP to  Silas    for being the first to post in the game thread!!! 

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Celtics!!!!!!

Beat the Pacers!!!!!! 

Re: Pacers (2-1) at Celtics (3-0) Game #4 11/1/23
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Thanks FLCeltsFan for another great game thread and the TP,  and a TP for you.  Go Cs.  Let's walk all over the Pacers.
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Re: Pacers (2-1) at Celtics (3-0) Game #4 11/1/23
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Let’s continue the winning streak, hopefully reserves plays more also
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

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Let’s continue the winning streak, hopefully reserves plays more also
And hopefully the reserves playing more doesn't impact the winning streak :)


If we do win this, it'll be the first time the C's have been 4-0 to open the season since 2009-10.

We did have strong starts in 17-18 and 19-20, but both of those early-season win streaks were preceded by losses.
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But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.

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Let’s continue the winning streak, hopefully reserves plays more also
And hopefully the reserves playing more doesn't impact the winning streak :)


If we do win this, it'll be the first time the C's have been 4-0 to open the season since 2009-10.

We did have strong starts in 17-18 and 19-20, but both of those early-season win streaks were preceded by losses.

We had strong start last year too.

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Pacers have a knack for coming into Boston and wanting the game more. C's need to be engaged from the jump.

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Go C’s  ;D

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Keep building good habits. I had the Pacers as fighting for the 3-6 seed. Can't sleep on them.

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If Tatum has a big game, he can hit a milestone tonight.  He's currently 46 points short of scoring 10k regular season points. 

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If Tatum has a big game, he can hit a milestone tonight.  He's currently 46 points short of scoring 10k regular season points.
Shame he's no Kyle Kuzma, though.


In case this is too niche a reference:
Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time.

But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.

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This chart always makes me laugh...

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four, for, fore, 4... and .... nothing, zero, aught, naught, nil, o, oh, zip, nought, goose egg, zilch.


regardless of how it is written, said or expressed, it means the celtics stomp the pacers and go 4 and 0.

tp to flc for another great game thread.


goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo undefeated celtics!!  ;D
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Pacers have a knack for coming into Boston and wanting the game more. C's need to be engaged from the jump.

The recent Celtics teams seemingly didn't take games against teams like Washington or Indiana seriously, which would result in the starters playing essentially the entire game. As impressed as I was with the first two wins, I took more away from the Washington game. I'm hoping this current team takes everyone seriously, and puts away bad teams early.