Celtics (4-6) at Grizzlies (10-2) Game #11 11/21/14

[Shamrocker]

Celtics played well tonight. The tank is preserved and Rondo is still looking every bit like a role player. Rondo is not a star player in the NBA. I'm hoping Ainge trades him quick. Nice win for the tank though!

Rondo had a terrible game.   But he isn't a role player.  Has there been  a role player in NBA history who averaged 10/8/12 over  a 10 game period?    Rondo will look great next game and the Rondo supporters will be out of the shadows again.   

You've enjoyed his defensive effort recently?

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

Any luck finding where the Cs defence went?

[SHAQATTACK]

Tank ya verrrrry much Griz

[mr. dee]

At least Lebron and Rondo have something to share together

[Shamrocker]

Any luck finding where the Cs defence went?

Last year, despite the losing, by in large, the guys gave an honest effort every game. Not this year.

[Eddie20]

Celtics played well tonight. The tank is preserved and Rondo is still looking every bit like a role player. Rondo is not a star player in the NBA. I'm hoping Ainge trades him quick. Nice win for the tank though!

Rondo had a terrible game.   But he isn't a role player.  Has there been  a role player in NBA history who averaged 10/8/12 over  a 10 game period?    Rondo will look great next game and the Rondo supporters will be out of the shadows again.   

For me it's not that he had a bad game, players have bad games, it's just that the effort was not there. This happens far too often for my liking. He's 28, not 38, so there is no reason for him to not bring it every night. That's what the greats do.

[jpotter33]

Celtics played well tonight. The tank is preserved and Rondo is still looking every bit like a role player. Rondo is not a star player in the NBA. I'm hoping Ainge trades him quick. Nice win for the tank though!

Rondo had a terrible game.   But he isn't a role player.  Has there been  a role player in NBA history who averaged 10/8/12 over  a 10 game period?    Rondo will look great next game and the Rondo supporters will be out of the shadows again.   

Man, I don't know. I'm as big of a Rondo supporter as there is, but he is just so depressing to watch some times. He just refuses to score the ball, and I think he's a much better scorer than he shows. And he won't change now. He's also progressively lost a step on defense. He is consistently beat off the dribble every night.  I don't know. I just don't know if he's the right person for our team right now, especially with a future star in Smart on the bench.

[greece66]

Yup, we are the fun police. Game was great fun to watch (slight sarcasm).

[SHAQATTACK]

Celtics played well tonight. The tank is preserved and Rondo is still looking every bit like a role player. Rondo is not a star player in the NBA. I'm hoping Ainge trades him quick. Nice win for the tank though!

Rondo had a terrible game.   But he isn't a role player.  Has there been  a role player in NBA history who averaged 10/8/12 over  a 10 game period?    Rondo will look great next game and the Rondo supporters will be out of the shadows again.   

Man, I don't know. I'm as big of a Rondo supporter as there is, but he is just so depressing to watch some times. He just refuses to score the ball, and I think he's a much better scorer than he shows. And he won't change now. He's also progressively lost a step on defense. He is consistently beat off the dribble every night.  I don't know. I just don't know if he's the right person for our team right now, especially with a future star in Smart on the bench.

This was a tuff basketball pill to take to night.    Not happy with anybody really

[Who]

2.  Rondo is slowly convincing me that he needs to go.  His game is so fundamentally flawed that he could get really old and really bad really quickly.

I think Rondo will have early decline from star to good starting caliber PG as his quickness goes (lessening offensive ability drastically) but I also think he'll age well from that point onwards because of his smarts and ability to contribute in multiple ways.

[Eddie20]

Celtics played well tonight. The tank is preserved and Rondo is still looking every bit like a role player. Rondo is not a star player in the NBA. I'm hoping Ainge trades him quick. Nice win for the tank though!

Rondo had a terrible game.   But he isn't a role player.  Has there been  a role player in NBA history who averaged 10/8/12 over  a 10 game period?    Rondo will look great next game and the Rondo supporters will be out of the shadows again.   

Man, I don't know. I'm as big of a Rondo supporter as there is, but he is just so depressing to watch some times. He just refuses to score the ball, and I think he's a much better scorer than he shows. And he won't change now. He's also progressively lost a step on defense. He is consistently beat off the dribble every night. I don't know. I just don't know if he's the right person for our team right now, especially with a future star in Smart on the bench.

This part for sure. Far too many times I see him not fight through screens, try for the reach around steal, or simply not move his feet. I don't think he's lost a step, I think it's just effort. Defense is primarily effort. I've also noticed that he's usually covering 2's now, perhaps it's that the coaching staff had noticed the same thing.

[KeepRondo]

We look like a collection of mediocre players.

[Who]

Any luck finding where the Cs defence went?

Last year, despite the losing, by in large, the guys gave an honest effort every game. Not this year.

(1) Bass as starter instead of Olynyk.
(2) Gerald Wallace at backup SF instead of Turner.
(3) No Pressey for most of season. Team mailed it in defensively over last couple of months while Pressey was in rotation.
(4) Courtney Lee for first half of season. Marcus Smart injured for now.

= where the defense went
= difference between last year and this year

[MBunge]

2.  Rondo is slowly convincing me that he needs to go.  His game is so fundamentally flawed that he could get really old and really bad really quickly.

I think Rondo will have early decline from star to good starting caliber PG as his quickness goes (lessening offensive ability drastically) but I also think he'll age well from that point onwards because of his smarts and ability to contribute in multiple ways.

My concern, though, is that Rondo so often refuses to make the smart and simple play.  It's like he has to make the game harder for himself.  What is that mindset going to lead to when his physical skills start to decline.

Mike

[SHAQATTACK]

Right now we are a lock for a top ten Lott pick