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This confuses me very much. I've been a very regular poster in the game thread forum for years. I enjoy bashing Doc's bad decisions and Scals poor play as much as I love praising Rondo and KG for all the things they do right. I hope all of this stuff is still legal. But I see posters calling out other posters for negative comments about the C's poor play. And I think that is where the fighting starts. IMO, if you don't like something negative someone writes, ignore it. :-\
I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not sure what I write is legal. I think it is but I'm not sure. I'm not always positive and I'm sure something I have written has provoked an angry response. But I love this Celtics as much as anyone on this site and think I contribute as best I can.
This confuses me very much. I've been a very regular poster in the game thread forum for years. I enjoy bashing Doc's bad decisions and Scals poor play as much as I love praising Rondo and KG for all the things they do right. I hope all of this stuff is still legal. But I see posters calling out other posters for negative comments about the C's poor play. And I think that is where the fighting starts. IMO, if you don't like something negative someone writes, ignore it. :-\
I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not sure what I write is legal. I think it is but I'm not sure. I'm not always positive and I'm sure something I have written has provoked an angry response. But I love this Celtics as much as anyone on this site and think I contribute as best I can.
It may be time for another reminder. At least a couple good C-Blog members posted yesterday that they'd had enough of the perpetual griping and defeatism on the game thread.
Now I have too.
Several years ago I started hanging out on the game thread (yes, regular season too) and learned to see and interpret games better. I understood the games and the game of basketball more thoroughly thanks to the other members on game thread. Today, and for me personally, the bad now far outweighs the good. The griping and sniping clutter the posts, while the really insightful posts have become fewer and fewer as fans--C-Blog fans--appear to be leaving.
Some will suggest that if I can't stand the heat I should get out of the kitchen, and that's fine. My interest in the thread started to wane last year. In my own mind, I'm leaving the kitchen again because it has deteriorated to the point where there's little to be gained by staying. Hoped it would be like the old days during the playoffs, but I guess not. I will miss the camaraderie and the basketball acumen I enjoyed from other C-bloggers, but most of that is already gone already. Just see the date of the OP to see how long the decline has been.
Moderators, I can't really ask that you do more than you already do, but it would be wonderful if somehow the game thread as a resource and community could be revived.
It may be time for another reminder. At least a couple good C-Blog members posted yesterday that they'd had enough of the perpetual griping and defeatism on the game thread.TP and amen to that.
Now I have too.
Several years ago I started hanging out on the game thread (yes, regular season too) and learned to see and interpret games better. I understood the games and the game of basketball more thoroughly thanks to the other members on game thread. Today, and for me personally, the bad now far outweighs the good. The griping and sniping clutter the posts, while the really insightful posts have become fewer and fewer as fans--C-Blog fans--appear to be leaving.
Some will suggest that if I can't stand the heat I should get out of the kitchen, and that's fine. My interest in the thread started to wane last year. In my own mind, I'm leaving the kitchen again because it has deteriorated to the point where there's little to be gained by staying. Hoped it would be like the old days during the playoffs, but I guess not. I will miss the camaraderie and the basketball acumen I enjoyed from other C-bloggers, but most of that is already gone already. Just see the date of the OP to see how long the decline has been.
Moderators, I can't really ask that you do more than you already do, but it would be wonderful if somehow the game thread as a resource and community could be revived.
It may be time for another reminder. At least a couple good C-Blog members posted yesterday that they'd had enough of the perpetual griping and defeatism on the game thread.
Now I have too.
Several years ago I started hanging out on the game thread (yes, regular season too) and learned to see and interpret games better. I understood the games and the game of basketball more thoroughly thanks to the other members on game thread. Today, and for me personally, the bad now far outweighs the good. The griping and sniping clutter the posts, while the really insightful posts have become fewer and fewer as fans--C-Blog fans--appear to be leaving.
Some will suggest that if I can't stand the heat I should get out of the kitchen, and that's fine. My interest in the thread started to wane last year. In my own mind, I'm leaving the kitchen again because it has deteriorated to the point where there's little to be gained by staying. Hoped it would be like the old days during the playoffs, but I guess not. I will miss the camaraderie and the basketball acumen I enjoyed from other C-bloggers, but most of that is already gone already. Just see the date of the OP to see how long the decline has been.
Moderators, I can't really ask that you do more than you already do, but it would be wonderful if somehow the game thread as a resource and community could be revived.
I feel that the controversial subjects such as Jeff Green, Big Baby, Rondo, Doc, etc. bring out fire in Celtics fan.
It is fine to get into a debate with a Celtic fan, but keep in mind we all have the same goal here, and thats 18...no one should harass another member for their views.
Calling out Glen Davis on the other hand, for his poorous play, in my opinion, is perfectly fine, right?
Congts to the naysayers for holding off this long. Your self controls is impressive. Last year this issue cropped up much earlier.
Congts to the naysayers for holding off this long. Your self controls is impressive. Last year this issue cropped up much earlier.
Here is a good example of what not to do.
Congts to the naysayers for holding off this long. Your self controls is impressive. Last year this issue cropped up much earlier.
Here is a good example of what not to do.
I'm assuming you meant your post. I'm just adding a little levity to the situation without singling anyone out. I don't go to the game threads that often.
I respect the opinion of all those who have left the game threads because they became too negative / intolerable for their liking.
At the same time, if all the positive members bail, what do people think the tone will be like? There are at least a half dozen members who have commented that they've left. Wouldn't six strong voices cheering on the team contribute to the atmosphere that you at one time liked, and now miss?
I don't know. I'm sympathetic to the complaints about the tone. I personally think the game threads have been better than last year, with most of the gripes directed at poor play rather than at one another. For me, the only comments that I have a problem with are the "this game is over" comments made at halftime, etc. Such comments -- even out of frustration -- really don't do anything positive, and at the same time just rile up a lot of fans who are still pulling for the team to win.
I'm not sure what the answer is, but as always, we're open for suggestions.
Congts to the naysayers for holding off this long. Your self controls is impressive. Last year this issue cropped up much earlier.
Here is a good example of what not to do.
I'm assuming you meant your post. I'm just adding a little levity to the situation without singling anyone out. I don't go to the game threads that often.
Fair enough. But using a term like "naysayers" (or, say, "kool-aid drinkers") to dismissively categorize a group of posters is the sort of thing the people are talking about as a problem.
Congts to the naysayers for holding off this long. Your self controls is impressive. Last year this issue cropped up much earlier.
Here is a good example of what not to do.
I'm assuming you meant your post. I'm just adding a little levity to the situation without singling anyone out. I don't go to the game threads that often.
Fair enough. But using a term like "naysayers" (or, say, "kool-aid drinkers") to dismissively categorize a group of posters is the sort of thing the people are talking about as a problem.
Congts to the naysayers for holding off this long. Your self controls is impressive. Last year this issue cropped up much earlier.
Here is a good example of what not to do.
I'm assuming you meant your post. I'm just adding a little levity to the situation without singling anyone out. I don't go to the game threads that often.
Fair enough. But using a term like "naysayers" (or, say, "kool-aid drinkers") to dismissively categorize a group of posters is the sort of thing the people are talking about as a problem.
I would disagree with this. "naysayer" is meant to group people based on their general (at this point in time) negative viewpoint. I guess I could have said detractors, would that have been better? "kool-aid drinkers" is a term that is meant to demean the opinion of people with a positive viewpoint.
I feel that the controversial subjects such as Jeff Green, Big Baby, Rondo, Doc, etc. bring out fire in Celtics fan.
It is fine to get into a debate with a Celtic fan, but keep in mind we all have the same goal here, and thats 18...no one should harass another member for their views.
Calling out Glen Davis on the other hand, for his poorous play, in my opinion, is perfectly fine, right?
I don't think the problem is with "calling out players"; my personal opinion is that if a player isn't playing well, then fans have a right to criticise them.
However, at the same time, I don't think anyone has a right to attack players, Doc, other fans, etc., and from what I've seen, there's been a lot of that in the game threads.
Congts to the naysayers for holding off this long. Your self controls is impressive. Last year this issue cropped up much earlier.
Here is a good example of what not to do.
I'm assuming you meant your post. I'm just adding a little levity to the situation without singling anyone out. I don't go to the game threads that often.
Fair enough. But using a term like "naysayers" (or, say, "kool-aid drinkers") to dismissively categorize a group of posters is the sort of thing the people are talking about as a problem.
I would disagree with this. "naysayer" is meant to group people based on their general (at this point in time) negative viewpoint. I guess I could have said detractors, would that have been better? "kool-aid drinkers" is a term that is meant to demean the opinion of people with a positive viewpoint.
yeah, but in the context of your post "naysayers" had a similarly demeaning and dismissive tone. you may not have meant it that way, but that's the way it comes across.
it's not so much which word you chose to use, it's the fact that you implied that what those sorts of people post on the forum is not about what's actually happening on the court but is simply a result of who they are as people (e.g. that they require "self control" to keep from posting negative things about the team regardless of the circumstances). that's similar but opposite to the connotation of "kool aid drinkers."
That's not the problem. The problem is the "naysayers." The "kool aid drinkers" as you call them, aren't the ones all in everybody's face with their opinion, and if they were it would likely add to whatever discussion rather than derail it.
Congts to the naysayers for holding off this long. Your self controls is impressive. Last year this issue cropped up much earlier.
Here is a good example of what not to do.
I'm assuming you meant your post. I'm just adding a little levity to the situation without singling anyone out. I don't go to the game threads that often.
Fair enough. But using a term like "naysayers" (or, say, "kool-aid drinkers") to dismissively categorize a group of posters is the sort of thing the people are talking about as a problem.
I would disagree with this. "naysayer" is meant to group people based on their general (at this point in time) negative viewpoint. I guess I could have said detractors, would that have been better? "kool-aid drinkers" is a term that is meant to demean the opinion of people with a positive viewpoint.
yeah, but in the context of your post "naysayers" had a similarly demeaning and dismissive tone. you may not have meant it that way, but that's the way it comes across.
it's not so much which word you chose to use, it's the fact that you implied that what those sorts of people post on the forum is not about what's actually happening on the court but is simply a result of who they are as people (e.g. that they require "self control" to keep from posting negative things about the team regardless of the circumstances). that's similar but opposite to the connotation of "kool aid drinkers."
My two cents which channels my inner PLamb...
I used to love going to the game threads and there was seldom a time where I missed one for a period of about 2+ years on this blog. I had a ball. Yes, most of what I did was cheering for the Celtics, pointing out great plays by both teams playing, countering negative thought, and in general acting like I would if I was down the street at the local pub having a beer with the local crowd cheering the team on. I loved that feeling of camaraderie and made a lot of cyber-friends on this blog by visiting the threads.
But somewhere around the time KG got hurt in 2008-09 things changed in the game threads. No longer were some people being critical but they had stepped over the line and become downright negative and hostile constantly spouting about the eventual demise of the team whether it was about a particular game, the season, a playoff series or as a whole. And they did it during the beginnings of games, at the half and during the end. They did it whether up big numbers, down big numbers or in a close game. it didn't matter it was always the same.
I put up with it for a while and then decided to try to start a separate game thread for people who wanted to just cheer on their team and not have to put up with the negativity. That was shot down. Those shouting the negative comments the loudest didn't like the idea and the mods and Jeff didn't want to give offense to FLCeltsFan for her work and thought a division of the blog into negatives and positives was a bad thing.
I see their points but in many ways the game threads have become what the Current Events forum was before Jeff shut it down. it's become mean, nasty, unenjoyable, and is driving people from the threads and the blog.
Now if I go to a bar and watch the game locally most people are going to be Celtics fans and most are going to cheer on the team. If however, there is a group that come to the bar that is constantly heckling the team out loud and causing people to not enjoy the game and hence not drink as much or not frequent the bar as much, the management of that bar is going to ask them to pipe the freak down or leave because it is costing him money.
I'm not talking about an occasional group of fans from the other team that comes in and cheers the opposing team on I'm talking about regulars that are just being caustic for the sake of being caustic. The bar owner or management isn't going to put up with those types of patrons that create a bad atmosphere and drive money and patrons away. they just won't.
Am I saying to throw those who are constantly being negative out of the game threads? Well, I guess I am but, no, that's not what I would want. But perhaps a new set of rules for the game threads should be put into place to make the environment better.
The emotional adrenaline during game threads is easily higher than at any other time when you are posting. Have some care to know that being excessively negative while others are emotionally invested in a game is probably not the best way to be within a group dynamic as it is going to cause problems. Set the rules to temper such things and let the populace in the game threads police themselves with the report to moderator buttons. If the mods get too many realistic complaints about a certain person for comments within the game threads, bar them from the threads. Temporarily at first but with a three strike rule.
Such rules have worked great within the Current Events area and that area, while still contentious, is much tamer than it was and has remained a forum in the blog even though many have been kicked out of the area.
Again, just my two cents.
I think for a lot of us that don't live near Boston...or watch games with other boston fans....game threads are a way to watch games with other C fans. I certainly can't vent my worries...fears...happiness..joy...whatever to my wife during the games...Says the guy that told us no less than 7 times that Miami would win the series in 5 games before the end of the third quarter the other night and said
It is nice to see there are other fans obsessed with the Celtics to the point they post here for some sort of therapy or reassurance no matter how bad things get. I don't mind the positive posts even when all things look lost...i don't mind the negative posts when all things look good...or the ones that border on both.
Game threads are real time reaction posts...people post their feelings at as things are happening...good or bad...and i think that isn't such a bad thing
I think for a lot of us that don't live near Boston...or watch games with other boston fans....game threads are a way to watch games with other C fans. I certainly can't vent my worries...fears...happiness..joy...whatever to my wife during the games...Says the guy that told us no less than 7 times that Miami would win the series in 5 games before the end of the third quarter the other night and said
It is nice to see there are other fans obsessed with the Celtics to the point they post here for some sort of therapy or reassurance no matter how bad things get. I don't mind the positive posts even when all things look lost...i don't mind the negative posts when all things look good...or the ones that border on both.
Game threads are real time reaction posts...people post their feelings at as things are happening...good or bad...and i think that isn't such a bad thing
"tonight could be the night where it all ends for this team"
at the 7 minute mark of the 2nd quarter with the scored tied.
Come on cio!!!! Are you really enjoying the game threads by constantly telling the rest of us how bad the C's are, how good Miami is, how the C's will only win one game in the series, how horrible KG is playing and how horrible Baby is playing?
Go back and read your posts you made in the game thread and other game threads. They do not appear to be the quotes of a man who is enjoying himself or even attempting to fit in with a pro-Celtics crowd. If you were saying those things in a local Boston bar, constantly and out loud, management would cut you off and ask you to leave because you were ruining the atmosphere in their bar.
I think for a lot of us that don't live near Boston...or watch games with other boston fans....game threads are a way to watch games with other C fans. I certainly can't vent my worries...fears...happiness..joy...whatever to my wife during the games...
It is nice to see there are other fans obsessed with the Celtics to the point they post here for some sort of therapy or reassurance no matter how bad things get. I don't mind the positive posts even when all things look lost...i don't mind the negative posts when all things look good...or the ones that border on both.
Game threads are real time reaction posts...people post their feelings at as things are happening...good or bad...and i think that isn't such a bad thing
Sorry for calling you out cio, Roy's right, I shouldn't have done it. My bad I hope you accept my apology.I think for a lot of us that don't live near Boston...or watch games with other boston fans....game threads are a way to watch games with other C fans. I certainly can't vent my worries...fears...happiness..joy...whatever to my wife during the games...Says the guy that told us no less than 7 times that Miami would win the series in 5 games before the end of the third quarter the other night and said
It is nice to see there are other fans obsessed with the Celtics to the point they post here for some sort of therapy or reassurance no matter how bad things get. I don't mind the positive posts even when all things look lost...i don't mind the negative posts when all things look good...or the ones that border on both.
Game threads are real time reaction posts...people post their feelings at as things are happening...good or bad...and i think that isn't such a bad thing
"tonight could be the night where it all ends for this team"
at the 7 minute mark of the 2nd quarter with the scored tied.
Come on cio!!!! Are you really enjoying the game threads by constantly telling the rest of us how bad the C's are, how good Miami is, how the C's will only win one game in the series, how horrible KG is playing and how horrible Baby is playing?
Go back and read your posts you made in the game thread and other game threads. They do not appear to be the quotes of a man who is enjoying himself or even attempting to fit in with a pro-Celtics crowd. If you were saying those things in a local Boston bar, constantly and out loud, management would cut you off and ask you to leave because you were ruining the atmosphere in their bar.
just call them as I see them. When the Cs play poorly...I am not afraid to say it. When they play well..I point that also...I really could careless about fitting in.
And yes it is MY OPINION....I would hope that a blog would welcome the opinions of anyone...good, bad or neutral...
If you think it is me ruining the "atmosphere" then I will not come around anymore...but sorry if I can't be roses and unicorns when they look bad.
Being a Celtics fan based in Australia I rarely get to watch games live as they are usually on during working hours. Following a play by play usually doesn't give the full picture of a game and therefore I read the game blog to gauge the comments of fellow supporters. I fully agree that it has become increasingly frustrating to follow what is actually happening on the court with all the "we are gone" comments in the first quarter of games and so on. I used to rely on descriptions of what is actually happening on the court from you guys but now I have a lot more faith in following the play by play because it does actually tell me a lot more! If it wasn't for that I would be led to believe that we are always behind by double digits at any point in the game and will never win again!:D Cheers!
Surprise, surprise when the C's do actually have a comfortable lead and are playing well these same people go entirely missing from the blog as if incapable of showering any kind of praise on the team. Mind boggling attitudes?
Thank god for posters such as Dirk who ironically enough is also currently based in Australia. While we don't need over the top cheer leaders his positive attitude and attempts to paint a picture of what is actually happening are refreshing.
Being a Celtics fan based in Australia I rarely get to watch games live as they are usually on during working hours. Following a play by play usually doesn't give the full picture of a game and therefore I read the game blog to gauge the comments of fellow supporters. I fully agree that it has become increasingly frustrating to follow what is actually happening on the court with all the "we are gone" comments in the first quarter of games and so on. I used to rely on descriptions of what is actually happening on the court from you guys but now I have a lot more faith in following the play by play because it does actually tell me a lot more! If it wasn't for that I would be led to believe that we are always behind by double digits at any point in the game and will never win again!:D Cheers!
Surprise, surprise when the C's do actually have a comfortable lead and are playing well these same people go entirely missing from the blog as if incapable of showering any kind of praise on the team. Mind boggling attitudes?
Thank god for posters such as Dirk who ironically enough is also currently based in Australia. While we don't need over the top cheer leaders his positive attitude and attempts to paint a picture of what is actually happening are refreshing.
Do I know you? :p
My simple solution, and I know this goes against the spirit of Celticsblog, is an "ignore list". Itīs what you do in real life with people you canīt stand, donīt care about their opinion or tell you "the end is near" to avoid constant debates, in-fighting or bad mood.
Ignore lists are not perfect, because they lead some people to ignore anyone who is of opposite opinion, and the exchange of different opinions is what makes the blog great. They also invite some people to show other posters a lack of respect, by telling them they are on their respective lists (which could be circumvented by an additional rule). Still, they would dramatically decrease the amount of in-fighting in game threads.
in all honesty, i think the game threads are a reflection of the entire blog lately. there is a lot of nastiness, labeling, sensitivity, and glaringly to me....nit-picking.
i used to post here A LOT! i got emotionally attached to the blog, its people, my interactions, and the discussions. by becoming attached, i found i was actually enjoying myself less due to being sucked into negativity. things have changed since then (about a year ago).
now, i look at this place as a blog, pure and simple. not a community, just a blog. by doing so, it is more enjoyable bc im detached from it, while still being engaged in any topic or discussion i choose to be a part of.
my advise...loosen up, reflect, put things in perspective....its not a community, its a blog. it might not work for everyone, but it has worked for me.
You know, you are right. It's funny, I don't remember this much handwringing on CBlog when we went through our record 18-game losing streak (I was a lurker back then). Maybe in those days everyone was so focused on looking for glimmers of hope!
It's great to cheer for a contender again, but I think people have really raised their standards. Rooting for today's Celtics beats the heck out of hoping Mark Blount, Raef LaFrentz or Ricky Davis is gonna help us win a fewgamesmoral victories.
in all honesty, i think the game threads are a reflection of the entire blog lately. there is a lot of nastiness, labeling, sensitivity, and glaringly to me....nit-picking.
i used to post here A LOT! i got emotionally attached to the blog, its people, my interactions, and the discussions. by becoming attached, i found i was actually enjoying myself less due to being sucked into negativity. things have changed since then (about a year ago).
now, i look at this place as a blog, pure and simple. not a community, just a blog. by doing so, it is more enjoyable bc im detached from it, while still being engaged in any topic or discussion i choose to be a part of.
my advise...loosen up, reflect, put things in perspective....its not a community, its a blog. it might not work for everyone, but it has worked for me.
You know, you are right. It's funny, I don't remember this much handwringing on CBlog when we went through our record 18-game losing streak (I was a lurker back then). Maybe in those days everyone was so focused on looking for glimmers of hope!
It's great to cheer for a contender again, but I think people have really raised their standards. Rooting for today's Celtics beats the heck out of hoping Mark Blount, Raef LaFrentz or Ricky Davis is gonna help us win a fewgamesmoral victories.
Or an ignore list for game threads alone. Not the rest of the forum.My simple solution, and I know this goes against the spirit of Celticsblog, is an "ignore list". Itīs what you do in real life with people you canīt stand, donīt care about their opinion or tell you "the end is near" to avoid constant debates, in-fighting or bad mood.
Ignore lists are not perfect, because they lead some people to ignore anyone who is of opposite opinion, and the exchange of different opinions is what makes the blog great. They also invite some people to show other posters a lack of respect, by telling them they are on their respective lists (which could be circumvented by an additional rule). Still, they would dramatically decrease the amount of in-fighting in game threads.
I have thought about my first post, and Iīd like to add that while a traditional ignore list would help with the game threads, theyīre not necessarily helpful for the blog as a whole. As annoying as the negative posters in the game thread are, theyīre still Celtic fans and I do enjoy their posts in regular threads.
I donīt know if itīs technically possible, but the best solution would be some kind of "cool down" button, to put people on a temporary ignore list. Hit the button, and you ignore the poster for three hours. Itīs basically not an ignore list, but a "Donīt talk to me until you calm down" list.
in all honesty, i think the game threads are a reflection of the entire blog lately. there is a lot of nastiness, labeling, sensitivity, and glaringly to me....nit-picking.
i used to post here A LOT! i got emotionally attached to the blog, its people, my interactions, and the discussions. by becoming attached, i found i was actually enjoying myself less due to being sucked into negativity. things have changed since then (about a year ago).
now, i look at this place as a blog, pure and simple. not a community, just a blog. by doing so, it is more enjoyable bc im detached from it, while still being engaged in any topic or discussion i choose to be a part of.
my advise...loosen up, reflect, put things in perspective....its not a community, its a blog. it might not work for everyone, but it has worked for me.
Sydney indeed. Shame, could've had lunch at a pub together, to watch one of our games some time, had we lived closer ;)Being a Celtics fan based in Australia I rarely get to watch games live as they are usually on during working hours. Following a play by play usually doesn't give the full picture of a game and therefore I read the game blog to gauge the comments of fellow supporters. I fully agree that it has become increasingly frustrating to follow what is actually happening on the court with all the "we are gone" comments in the first quarter of games and so on. I used to rely on descriptions of what is actually happening on the court from you guys but now I have a lot more faith in following the play by play because it does actually tell me a lot more! If it wasn't for that I would be led to believe that we are always behind by double digits at any point in the game and will never win again!:D Cheers!
Surprise, surprise when the C's do actually have a comfortable lead and are playing well these same people go entirely missing from the blog as if incapable of showering any kind of praise on the team. Mind boggling attitudes?
Thank god for posters such as Dirk who ironically enough is also currently based in Australia. While we don't need over the top cheer leaders his positive attitude and attempts to paint a picture of what is actually happening are refreshing.
Do I know you? :p
Nah mate no nepotism going on here!! I'm in Melbourne, I think you're in Sydney aren't you?
What a play Avery
Hook em
i think the uncivil atmosphere you speak of has coincided with one of the most frustrating seasons in Celtics history, for some very specific reasons:
1) the Celtics are the proudest franchise in the league. we have had to endure a 20-year title drought that was brought on by one unbelievably tortuous twist of fate after another. adding insult to injury, us Celtic fans have had to endure watching the Bulls, Spurs and Lakers win multiple titles in our absence.
2) the arrival of Kevin Garnett and the immediate effect that he had on the team was like a warm balm that brought healing to our collective wounds. the team magically became the Celtics again, caring about winning above all else, playing the fiercest team defense seen by the NBA in many years and most of all, playing together as a team, beautifully. the championship that followed was like a miracle. only one year previous, banner #17 seemed as far away as it ever had, and now, the championship trophy was back where it had always belonged - in Boston.
3) the frustration and pain that would follow the euphoria and satisfaction of the championship started with the summer-long holdout and subsequent loss of james posey. we still haven't replaced the guy. still, the Celts started the next season fast - very fast. but the christmas day loss in LA was soon followed by the injury to Garnett that ultimately derailed the title defense. the loss of Leon Powe - another beloved member of the title team was followed the next season by the trade of Eddie House.
4) then came the amazing playoff run that saw the Celts simply dismantle the two best records from the regular season. winning at cleveland and orlando almost looked easy. then, of course, came the hated Lakers, the amazing wins in games 4 & 5 at home, followed by game 6 & Perk blowing out his knee after getting hammered off the top rope by Bynum. then, of course, came game 7, which for me, a Celtics fan of 40+ years, is now the most painful loss in our history
5) this season felt like a re-birth of the 2008 championship group, but with the addition of a togetherness forged out of everything they had been thru - four seasons together, the title, the loss to orlando, the injuries, and most of all, the unity that resulted from the aforementioned game 7 in last year's finals. the team was playing their lights-out defense again, KG looked like his old self, Ray Ray and Paul were playing great and Rondo was knocking the top out of every assist record he could find. most of all, the Celts had a shared motivation that you rarely see in professional sports. they didn't just want to win the title this year, they NEEDED to.
6) and then the trade that took it all away. the playoffs were going to be our revenge and redemption. this team had become a special group for so many of us. they cared about each other in a way not usually seen in pro sports. i mantain to this day that the Celtics simply have not been the same team since Perk left. watching them struggle the last two months of the season, seeing them get bullied by other teams they use to bully, like Chicago and Miami. they have lost their identity and their confidence. no amount of "playing hard" can bring that back.
and that Roy, in brief, is why i think you are seeing the extreme anger and confrontation that you spoke about above, within the Celtic family. at this point, it's just a little too much to take and the thought of the Lakers pulling even with us or the Bulls or OKC (with Perk), or God Forbid the Heat, starting a run of titles is just more pain than i can handle.
Well, I know have I practically stopped posting all together. This is my choice and my displeasure with trolls stirring the pot during times of chaos for our team. It is one thing to make constructive posts about things they are unhappy with, it is an entirely other thing to belittle and throw oil on a fire when wounds are open. This to me is not what this commmunity was built on and it is eerlily simliar too, and a mirror reflection of what we see on news sites as well. Blatant disregard for caring and more of an open outlet to lash out and throw pointed daggars towards someone not you.The recent behavior you are discussing is not a new thing. Look at the post preceding your post. The poster is quoting a quote from 8 years ago.
Sonsosamhorn is a community of Sox fans but to get to the point of posting in certain areas, you need to earn it. You cannot simply show up and start posting in game threads or posting in main areas. Respect is earned and then you are rewarded with full membership. It is apparent anyone can post here without a trial period. It is also apparent to me that certain trolls are allowed in as well. Oil on fire is there goal and they do it well.
Ignore button is a personal thing. If I choose not to see anothers point of view, why not give me that right to block them. I can then do my own trial for new people and if I find them respectful no matter their view,, I will allow it. If I find them out for blood during painful times for fans, I would like to block them.
My time is as close to up as ever here...I am but one person, but I am not going to continue to be a part of a site where vicious behavior is allowed without some sort of blocking or removal. We have truly lost our way in this site and it is sadly mirroring what is going on in our world today.
I, for one, certainly don't envy the jobs you mods have. I just think sports as a hobby will always be toxic in a sense, especially on blogs like this. Lots of people use sports as a way to relieve stress and lash out in ways that they can't in any other area of life. As a side note, I really think an ignore button would be a good solution to a lot of people's problem. Some people simply don't enjoy the barrage of negativity some individual poster show here.Well, I know have I practically stopped posting all together. This is my choice and my displeasure with trolls stirring the pot during times of chaos for our team. It is one thing to make constructive posts about things they are unhappy with, it is an entirely other thing to belittle and throw oil on a fire when wounds are open. This to me is not what this commmunity was built on and it is eerlily simliar too, and a mirror reflection of what we see on news sites as well. Blatant disregard for caring and more of an open outlet to lash out and throw pointed daggars towards someone not you.The recent behavior you are discussing is not a new thing. Look at the post preceding your post. The poster is quoting a quote from 8 years ago.
Sonsosamhorn is a community of Sox fans but to get to the point of posting in certain areas, you need to earn it. You cannot simply show up and start posting in game threads or posting in main areas. Respect is earned and then you are rewarded with full membership. It is apparent anyone can post here without a trial period. It is also apparent to me that certain trolls are allowed in as well. Oil on fire is there goal and they do it well.
Ignore button is a personal thing. If I choose not to see anothers point of view, why not give me that right to block them. I can then do my own trial for new people and if I find them respectful no matter their view,, I will allow it. If I find them out for blood during painful times for fans, I would like to block them.
My time is as close to up as ever here...I am but one person, but I am not going to continue to be a part of a site where vicious behavior is allowed without some sort of blocking or removal. We have truly lost our way in this site and it is sadly mirroring what is going on in our world today.
The games threads were just awful to be in going as far back as the 2010 season. The negativity was vicious. The pure malice subsided while the team rebuilt but the negativity was still there. I think the unmet expectations of this year have made the game threads a tough place again.
I will say the staff does try like heck to keep things civil across the board. There are not a lot of us and there are a LOT of posts. We try.