Trade Deadline Rumors

[arctic 3.0]

Watching Gordon today, I was surprised how well he passed the ball out of the low post. That is something our team is really lacking.  I see his fit here, just don't know what the Magic trade demands would be.

I am also very intrigued by Lonzo Ball suddenly.  I don't think the market as RFA will be as robust for him as it will be for John Collins, plus I really like Ball's defense and playmaking.

Rumor has it they are asking for a pick and a prospect. If you ask me, that would be an overpay for Gordon.

Since you mentioned Lonzo, here's one more quote from KOC.

Sources: The Hawks and Bulls are both pursuing a trade for Pelicans guard Lonzo Ball. Talks with Atlanta have revolved around Cam Reddish.

https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1373749487517175817?s=20

A pick and a prospect?
I’m game. they can have our 2021 and their pick of Nesmith, Langford, G Williams. Heck, they can have two from that bunch.

[RJ87]

Watching Gordon today, I was surprised how well he passed the ball out of the low post. That is something our team is really lacking.  I see his fit here, just don't know what the Magic trade demands would be.

I've been on the Aaron Gordon bandwagon from the jump. His passing is really underrated - he makes good reads when guys cut or move off the ball and doesn't hesitate to make the extra pass. I could see him starting at the 4 for us but also playing some small ball 5 when the situation calls for it.

I think at 25 years old, there's another tier to his game that could be unlocked in a different situation. I'm not saying he's a superstar in the waiting, but he's a guy that has positional versatility and has a better feel for the game than he gets credit for, he's just maxed out in Orlando.

[seancally]

Watching Gordon today, I was surprised how well he passed the ball out of the low post. That is something our team is really lacking.  I see his fit here, just don't know what the Magic trade demands would be.

I've been on the Aaron Gordon bandwagon from the jump. His passing is really underrated - he makes good reads when guys cut or move off the ball and doesn't hesitate to make the extra pass. I could see him starting at the 4 for us but also playing some small ball 5 when the situation calls for it.

I think at 25 years old, there's another tier to his game that could be unlocked in a different situation. I'm not saying he's a superstar in the waiting, but he's a guy that has positional versatility and has a better feel for the game than he gets credit for, he's just maxed out in Orlando.

I’d love him here. Strikes me as a potential Draymond, higher athleticism, lower basketball IQ but similar type. Greases the wheels.

[Jvalin]

Watching Gordon today, I was surprised how well he passed the ball out of the low post. That is something our team is really lacking.  I see his fit here, just don't know what the Magic trade demands would be.

I am also very intrigued by Lonzo Ball suddenly.  I don't think the market as RFA will be as robust for him as it will be for John Collins, plus I really like Ball's defense and playmaking.

Since you mentioned Lonzo, here's one more quote from KOC.

Sources: The Hawks and Bulls are both pursuing a trade for Pelicans guard Lonzo Ball. Talks with Atlanta have revolved around Cam Reddish.

https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1373749487517175817?s=20

Thanks. Is Cam Reddish available? He would actually be a great investment, he is really long (6'8", with 7'1" wingspan) who would fit in well with us.  He has a lot of room to develop, but if the Hawks are looking to sell him, I'd definitely want to see what it would take to get him.

Imo, Reddish is a (very) poor man's Jaylen Brown. Don't think he'll ever become a good enough shot creator. That said, he might adapt his game and transform into a useful 3+D wing. His FG% is abysmal, but he's shooting 80.8% from the FT line for his career. I mean, FT% is usually indicative of shooting potential.

The way I see it, I'd only go after Reddish if we somehow trade Brown (which ain't happening).

People still buy into KOC’s fiction, huh?

Cam Reddish for a pending RFA?

Come on mate, we are a few days prior to the deadline. We all know KOC ain't exactly Woj or Shams. Don't spoil the fun.

[footey]

Celtic blog said Celtics interested in Bogdonavitch and Collins from Hawks.

Can’t see us getting all that without giving up Smart, right?

[Roy H.]

Celtic blog said Celtics interested in Bogdonavitch and Collins from Hawks.

Can’t see us getting all that without giving up Smart, right?

I can’t imagine we’d take on the financial commitment, but I’d love to get those two.

[Celtics2021]

Celtic blog said Celtics interested in Bogdonavitch and Collins from Hawks.

Can’t see us getting all that without giving up Smart, right?

If we’re getting Collins, is Time Lord getting kept?  Might make sense to trade him as the primary non-draft value (if the Hawks are interested, of course).

[Sophomore]

Celtic blog said Celtics interested in Bogdonavitch and Collins from Hawks.

Can’t see us getting all that without giving up Smart, right?

I can’t imagine we’d take on the financial commitment, but I’d love to get those two.

Agreed on the math. Bogey is due $18M, and somebody is going to throw Collins a very big offer the Cs would have to match in order to keep him. I mean, for those 2 plus Kemba and the Js it could be about $140M *before* the tax. 

[Birdman]

Ball would be a better fit than Kemba and Smart on this team

[PAOBoston]

Celtic blog said Celtics interested in Bogdonavitch and Collins from Hawks.

Can’t see us getting all that without giving up Smart, right?

I’d love Bogdanovic on the Cs. Guy is a baller. Much better player Smart (who is also gonna be due a pay bump next offseason too). Think Cs need to get what they can for Smart and avoid any situation where they have to consider giving him a large contract.

[perks-a-beast]

Ball would be a better fit than Kemba and Smart on this team

I second that, especially with his long range shooting improvement.

[Ed Monix]

“The Rockets, Warriors, Celtics, Timberwolves, and Trail Blazers have all had talks with the Magic for Gordon, league sources say.”

Per The Ringer

The Orlando Magic are believed to be seeking a "young player or players, a draft pick" and matching salary in return for forward Aaron Gordon, the Denver Post's Mike Singer reported Friday.

[jambr380]

“The Rockets, Warriors, Celtics, Timberwolves, and Trail Blazers have all had talks with the Magic for Gordon, league sources say.”

Per The Ringer

The Orlando Magic are believed to be seeking a "young player or players, a draft pick" and matching salary in return for forward Aaron Gordon, the Denver Post's Mike Singer reported Friday.

You'd have to think our ability to send back no salary would put us in the lead if packages are similar. The Magic have a pretty high payroll - I'm sure they'd like to cut that down a little bit.

There's also the whole Kemba/Clifford angle. If they are holding on to Vuc, then taking Gordon/Fournier for Kemba could be interesting since you get to keep the TPE.

[Celtics2021]

“The Rockets, Warriors, Celtics, Timberwolves, and Trail Blazers have all had talks with the Magic for Gordon, league sources say.”

Per The Ringer

The Orlando Magic are believed to be seeking a "young player or players, a draft pick" and matching salary in return for forward Aaron Gordon, the Denver Post's Mike Singer reported Friday.

You'd have to think our ability to send back no salary would put us in the lead if packages are similar. The Magic have a pretty high payroll - I'm sure they'd like to cut that down a little bit.

There's also the whole Kemba/Clifford angle. If they are holding on to Vuc, then taking Gordon/Fournier for Kemba could be interesting since you get to keep the TPE.

Gordon-Aminu is even more interesting because you get to convert the Hayward TPE that doesn’t fit Beal into a Kemba TPE that does.

[colincb]

BOS Smart + Nesmith or Langford
ORL Gordon + MCW

- Works in the trade machine and keeps ORL under the tax line which they're ridiculously close to.
- ORL has a Gordon replacement in Isaac, Nesmith would fit their weakest position at SF. Smart would fill the hole that will likely occur when Fournier goes into FA.
- BOS has a possible Smart replacement in PP. MCW becomes back-up PG.
- Retains full TPE (and ORL apparently wants talent rather than just picks.)