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Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2565 on: June 05, 2023, 11:57:48 PM »

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Irving is apparently trying to convince Lebron to force his way to Dallas.  I hadn't actually thought of that, but that would be interesting.

Assuming Lebron (and the Lakers) were ok with that, what type of trade would be reasonable.

Would either team do something like this?

Lebron for Hardaway, Bullock, 10

Lakers obviously get worse in the near term, but pick up a top 10 pick for development in their rebuild.

I assume they'd then look to move on from Davis (something like Simons, Sharpe, and 3 would make sense). 

They then bring back Reaves, Vanderbilt, Hachimura, and add Simons, Sharpe, 3, and 10.  Not a contender but at least a decent foundation and they'd have a fair amount of cap space unless they significantly overpaid their free agents. 

The Blazers would add Davis to Lillard and give Lillard a real shot.  The Mavs would be incredibly fascinating with Kyrie, Luka, and Lebron.  I have no idea if they'd be any good, but they sure would be fascinating.

My perception is that the Blazers view Sharpe as nearly untouchable. The kid just turned 20, an athletic wonder, and absolutely lit it up in the last month of the season when he had a chance to log consistent, real minutes. Look at his performances:

February -- 47.7% overall shooting, 37.2% from three, 9.3 PPG in 22.8 minutes
March -- 47.9% overall shooting, 42.5% from three, 13.8 PPG in 26.6 minutes
April -- 45.3% overall shooting, 28.1% from three (with three more attempts), 22.8 PPG in 32.3 minutes -- note, this is only four games

He's no guaranteed superstar, but his ceiling is about as high as it gets. I think that's part of the reason you see Simons shopped so liberally. Sharpe is a non-starter even for a guy like Davis unless it's basically straight up...Simons, Sharpe, and the #3 is a total robbery.

I do really wonder what the trade value of Davis is around the league.

Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2566 on: June 07, 2023, 08:55:56 PM »

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Miami flopping all over. Can't stand this bush league team
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Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2567 on: June 07, 2023, 09:18:37 PM »

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Denver looks very beatable. Miamis zone stifling them and just like that they took control of the game. We choked so bad this Finals makes me angry. We were right there played like idiots the majority of the series and had a home game to reach the Finals.
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Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2568 on: June 07, 2023, 09:30:33 PM »

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Amazed that this Miami team continues to win. So infuriating. Such an unlikable team

Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2569 on: June 07, 2023, 09:31:57 PM »

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Miami has once again managed to make a more talented team play down to their level. This game will be right about 100 which they want.

Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2570 on: June 07, 2023, 09:54:48 PM »

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Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2571 on: June 07, 2023, 09:57:01 PM »

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Irving is apparently trying to convince Lebron to force his way to Dallas.  I hadn't actually thought of that, but that would be interesting.

Assuming Lebron (and the Lakers) were ok with that, what type of trade would be reasonable.

Would either team do something like this?

Lebron for Hardaway, Bullock, 10

Lakers obviously get worse in the near term, but pick up a top 10 pick for development in their rebuild.

I assume they'd then look to move on from Davis (something like Simons, Sharpe, and 3 would make sense). 

They then bring back Reaves, Vanderbilt, Hachimura, and add Simons, Sharpe, 3, and 10.  Not a contender but at least a decent foundation and they'd have a fair amount of cap space unless they significantly overpaid their free agents. 

The Blazers would add Davis to Lillard and give Lillard a real shot.  The Mavs would be incredibly fascinating with Kyrie, Luka, and Lebron.  I have no idea if they'd be any good, but they sure would be fascinating.

My perception is that the Blazers view Sharpe as nearly untouchable. The kid just turned 20, an athletic wonder, and absolutely lit it up in the last month of the season when he had a chance to log consistent, real minutes. Look at his performances:

February -- 47.7% overall shooting, 37.2% from three, 9.3 PPG in 22.8 minutes
March -- 47.9% overall shooting, 42.5% from three, 13.8 PPG in 26.6 minutes
April -- 45.3% overall shooting, 28.1% from three (with three more attempts), 22.8 PPG in 32.3 minutes -- note, this is only four games

He's no guaranteed superstar, but his ceiling is about as high as it gets. I think that's part of the reason you see Simons shopped so liberally. Sharpe is a non-starter even for a guy like Davis unless it's basically straight up...Simons, Sharpe, and the #3 is a total robbery.
Maybe the case, but if they aren't going to go for it with Lillard, then they should trade him.  Even assuming that is an overpay, I think the Blazers would be one of the few teams out West you could expect to make a real run at the title.  If they bring back their other main free agents, they'd be:

Lillard, Davis, Nurkic, Grant, Reddish, Thybulle, Little, Knox, Johnson, Winslow, Eubanks

That team would be an excellent team (with a few vets and young guys to round out the bench), right there with the best teams in the sport.  Now if they could acquire Davis and keep one of Simons, Sharpe or 3, they'd be even better, but I'm not sure why the Lakers would do that, as I think they could get more elsewhere (though it may be more future assets instead of right now assets i.e. a bunch of future 1st's). 
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Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2572 on: June 07, 2023, 10:14:57 PM »

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When Miami doesn't shoot over its head from 3 while getting ref help, they can't hang.
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Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2573 on: June 07, 2023, 10:33:00 PM »

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Is Christian Braun better than Jaylen Brown? :P
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2574 on: June 07, 2023, 10:33:58 PM »

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Have a game, Christian Braun.  Sheesh.

Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2575 on: June 07, 2023, 10:35:32 PM »

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When Miami doesn't shoot over its head from 3 while getting ref help, they can't hang.

Once they start missing shots they just kind of concede. Denver hasn't even played well tonight.

Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2576 on: June 07, 2023, 10:39:46 PM »

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Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2577 on: June 07, 2023, 10:42:37 PM »

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If the nba wants to attract new fans they need to do something about the officiating.

I don’t think there is another sport where officials just completely ignore certain infractions other than the nba. I suppose die hard a just put up with it, but any casual fan would wonder why the refs just completely disregard certain things during the game. It’s embarrassing.

Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2578 on: June 07, 2023, 10:46:08 PM »

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Re: NBA Playoffs 2023
« Reply #2579 on: June 07, 2023, 11:07:51 PM »

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2 more to go. Send these frauds home.
Still don't believe in Joe.