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Re: Celtics, Suns, Knicks, Hawks trade idea (if Doncic slides to 3)
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2018, 03:40:03 PM »

Offline spikelovetheCelts

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I realize Ayton played in Arizona and it's a nice story if he just moves up the road to the Suns.  But it's an even nicer story if the new Suns coach gets to coach his ex player Doncic to help ease him into the first-ever-European-born European NBA head coaching job.  But, Ayton is almost unanimously considered a lock or should be lock at #1.

But what about the league moving away from traditional centers?  Perfect excuse to trade Ayton for Doncic, but only if Doncic slides to #3 where the Hawks pick.

It's a crazy never would happen trade so have fun blasting it apart.  I personally think the Knicks come out too far ahead despite giving up Porzingis.  But maybe there's away to arrange so they give up more or get a bit less.

Pretending the idea is valid, this trade takes advantage of Phoenix deciding they'd like to win some games next year and maybe get close to the playoffs even.  It takes advantage of the Knicks seeking relevance.  It takes advantage of the Hawks willingness to move laterally but also be better next year by getting proven Jaylen Brown to his hometown team...wonderful (not for Celtic Brown fans)....and it also cures certain obsessive Celtic fans of their deep anxiety over which wing might have to sit on the bench more than he'd like to, while clearing up some financial concerns too that are on the horizon (or maybe it doesn't do that last thing...not sure), and adds the coveted big man so desperately wanted for next year and the future.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycfwqnsr

Celtics trade Brown, Rozier, Morris, pick 27, Clippers pick
Celtics receive Porzingis, Bender, Hawks pick #19, Hawks pick #33

Suns trade Ayton, Josh Jackson, Bender, Jared Dudley
Suns receive Doncic, Rozier, Morris, Hardaway Jr., pick #9 from Knicks, future Knicks first

Knicks trade Porzingis, Ntikilina, Hardaway Jr., pick #9, future first
Knicks receive Ayton, Josh Jackson, Schroeder

Hawks trade Doncic, Schroeder, pick 19, pick 33
Hawks receive Jaylen Brown, Frank Ntikilina, pick 27, Clippers pick

Before you freak out that the Celtics can't get Porzingis for that, please remember that he tore an ACL this year.....huge risk for the Celtics to do this trade.

At pick 19 I would want Khyri Thomas

Irving, Smart, Larkin
Hayward, Smart, K. Thomas (or Troy Brown, etc.. your favorite player at 19)
Tatum, Hayward, Smart, Ojeleye
Porzingis, Theis, Yabusele, Tatum, Horford,
Horford, Baynes, Theis, Porzingis


The Suns gain pick 9 to take a big man if they want to make up for letting Ayton go.
At 9 there's an outside chance of Bamba or Carter Jr., but more likely they could take Robert Williams, Jontay Porter or Mitchell Robinson
Or they could take a highly rated wing or PG like Sexton at 9, and look for a big at 16.  At 16 they are guaranteed one of (Williams, Porter, Robinson)
They could also go for two bigs:  Jontay Porter at 9 and Williams or Robinson at 16.

The Hawks get pick 27 and have pick 30, and get the Clippers pick to add to Jaylen Brown and Ntikilina....They may still need a sweetener from the Celtics to do the deal.
You put a great deal of effort in to this. KP is not going anywhere until he proves his boney self is healthy.
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Re: Celtics, Suns, Knicks, Hawks trade idea (if Doncic slides to 3)
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2018, 04:38:02 PM »

Offline Boise To Boston

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Agreed.  The only way KP goes anywhere is if (1) the Knicks happen to know that his health is completely shot, and (2) they manage to convince another trade partner that "he's gonna be just fine!"

And since Danny just pulled that off with IT, I don't think it's gonna happen again.

I realize Ayton played in Arizona and it's a nice story if he just moves up the road to the Suns.  But it's an even nicer story if the new Suns coach gets to coach his ex player Doncic to help ease him into the first-ever-European-born European NBA head coaching job.  But, Ayton is almost unanimously considered a lock or should be lock at #1.

But what about the league moving away from traditional centers?  Perfect excuse to trade Ayton for Doncic, but only if Doncic slides to #3 where the Hawks pick.

It's a crazy never would happen trade so have fun blasting it apart.  I personally think the Knicks come out too far ahead despite giving up Porzingis.  But maybe there's away to arrange so they give up more or get a bit less.

Pretending the idea is valid, this trade takes advantage of Phoenix deciding they'd like to win some games next year and maybe get close to the playoffs even.  It takes advantage of the Knicks seeking relevance.  It takes advantage of the Hawks willingness to move laterally but also be better next year by getting proven Jaylen Brown to his hometown team...wonderful (not for Celtic Brown fans)....and it also cures certain obsessive Celtic fans of their deep anxiety over which wing might have to sit on the bench more than he'd like to, while clearing up some financial concerns too that are on the horizon (or maybe it doesn't do that last thing...not sure), and adds the coveted big man so desperately wanted for next year and the future.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycfwqnsr

Celtics trade Brown, Rozier, Morris, pick 27, Clippers pick
Celtics receive Porzingis, Bender, Hawks pick #19, Hawks pick #33

Suns trade Ayton, Josh Jackson, Bender, Jared Dudley
Suns receive Doncic, Rozier, Morris, Hardaway Jr., pick #9 from Knicks, future Knicks first

Knicks trade Porzingis, Ntikilina, Hardaway Jr., pick #9, future first
Knicks receive Ayton, Josh Jackson, Schroeder

Hawks trade Doncic, Schroeder, pick 19, pick 33
Hawks receive Jaylen Brown, Frank Ntikilina, pick 27, Clippers pick

Before you freak out that the Celtics can't get Porzingis for that, please remember that he tore an ACL this year.....huge risk for the Celtics to do this trade.

At pick 19 I would want Khyri Thomas

Irving, Smart, Larkin
Hayward, Smart, K. Thomas (or Troy Brown, etc.. your favorite player at 19)
Tatum, Hayward, Smart, Ojeleye
Porzingis, Theis, Yabusele, Tatum, Horford,
Horford, Baynes, Theis, Porzingis


The Suns gain pick 9 to take a big man if they want to make up for letting Ayton go.
At 9 there's an outside chance of Bamba or Carter Jr., but more likely they could take Robert Williams, Jontay Porter or Mitchell Robinson
Or they could take a highly rated wing or PG like Sexton at 9, and look for a big at 16.  At 16 they are guaranteed one of (Williams, Porter, Robinson)
They could also go for two bigs:  Jontay Porter at 9 and Williams or Robinson at 16.

The Hawks get pick 27 and have pick 30, and get the Clippers pick to add to Jaylen Brown and Ntikilina....They may still need a sweetener from the Celtics to do the deal.
You put a great deal of effort in to this. KP is not going anywhere until he proves his boney self is healthy.

Re: Celtics, Suns, Knicks, Hawks trade idea (if Doncic slides to 3)
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2018, 04:45:07 PM »

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I can’t come up with a single reason why Phoenix wouldn’t just take Doncic first and keep Jackson.

Re: Celtics, Suns, Knicks, Hawks trade idea (if Doncic slides to 3)
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2018, 05:13:29 PM »

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