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Around the League => The Draft => Topic started by: rondofan1255 on May 31, 2018, 02:17:19 PM
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Mentions (up to post #37):
Isaac Bonga (5)
Donte DiVincenzo (3)
Mohamed Bamba (3)
Elie Okobo (2)
Mitchell Robinson (2)
Moritz Wagner (2)
Wendell Carter (2)
Brandon McCoy
Grayson Allen
Jaren Jackson Jr.
Jevon Carter
Josh Okogie
Khyri Thomas
Rawle Alkins
Robert Williams
Zhaire Smith
Others:
no one/trade out (4)
who Ainge picks
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It depends on where we are picking, moving up per rumors etc, but I like Mo Wagner ( It might be too slow for NBA but on offense he looks good...) I Like Divincenzo just because he went full alpha in the championship game! With that said my draft pinkie is Isaac Bonga. He's not the type of player that maybe the Celtics need as he a swing for the fences, draft and stash guy. He is so young and has so many skills you can teach, timing, court vision, crazy length. He has an 8'10" standing reach and a 7 foot wingspan. He's a 6'9" point guard with a really good handle.
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It depends on where we are picking, moving up per rumors etc, but I like Mo Wagner ( It might be too slow for NBA but on offense he looks good...) I Like Divincenzo just because he went full alpha in the championship game! With that said my draft pinkie is Isaac Bonga. He's not the type of player that maybe the Celtics need as he a swing for the fences, draft and stash guy. He is so young and has so many skills you can teach, timing, court vision, crazy length. He has an 8'10" standing reach and a 7 foot wingspan. He's a 6'9" point guard with a really good handle.
I love that suggestion. TP. Just saw he is coming out this year.
http://www.espn.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/32688/german-forward-isaac-bonga-declaring-for-nba-draft
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It depends on where we are picking, moving up per rumors etc, but I like Mo Wagner ( It might be too slow for NBA but on offense he looks good...) I Like Divincenzo just because he went full alpha in the championship game! With that said my draft pinkie is Isaac Bonga. He's not the type of player that maybe the Celtics need as he a swing for the fences, draft and stash guy. He is so young and has so many skills you can teach, timing, court vision, crazy length. He has an 8'10" standing reach and a 7 foot wingspan. He's a 6'9" point guard with a really good handle.
Cosign!
Ditto!!
I'm bananas for Bonga too!!!
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Mitchell Robinson
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Divicenzo
Bamba
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lotto, been a Jaren Jackson fan since early season
rest of the draft Josh Okogie is my guy
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Zhaire Smith.
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Khyri Thomas
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Mitchell Robinson. Seems like pretty high bust potential but for this team picking in the 20s seems to make the most sense.
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No one.
I have zero interest in this draft for the Celtics. None.
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Elie Okobo. Sits and learns behind Kyrie and Larkin, and later fills the Rozier role since we will have traded Rozier and some other picks to move up in the draft to take Jackson, Bamba, or Carter.
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Divicenzo
Bamba
Same here
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Wendell Carter. I dont think he's going to be a star or has the upside of some of the other bigs in this draft, but I think his floor is high and would fit well on the Celtics. I hope we can move up for him assuming he's drafted at #6 or falls. Rozier, the Sac pick, and maybe either the Clippers or Memphis pick should be enough... at least value wise.
I liked Jontay Porter too, but he's going back to school.
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Robert Williams
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It depends on where we are picking, moving up per rumors etc, but I like Mo Wagner ( It might be too slow for NBA but on offense he looks good...) I Like Divincenzo just because he went full alpha in the championship game! With that said my draft pinkie is Isaac Bonga. He's not the type of player that maybe the Celtics need as he a swing for the fences, draft and stash guy. He is so young and has so many skills you can teach, timing, court vision, crazy length. He has an 8'10" standing reach and a 7 foot wingspan. He's a 6'9" point guard with a really good handle.
I love that suggestion. TP. Just saw he is coming out this year.
http://www.espn.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/32688/german-forward-isaac-bonga-declaring-for-nba-draft
beat me to it. bonga be my binkie this year.
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Whoever Ainge picks. After the last few drafts, I am going full Stan. Previous mistakes are forgiven!
All of these other guys look great in their highlight reels but I don’t watch enough college or European basketball to have any sense of who they are.
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Mitchell Robinson
me too
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Oh goodie, it's binky time! Binky! ;D
Anywho ;D, mine is Rawle Alkins.
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wendell carter
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Trading out of it.
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I have watched Bonga's highlights and I've decided we combine him with Bamba…
"Bonga to Bamba
underneath for the and one!"
In all seriousness, Bonga looked really good against the euros. He has a handle and can pass.
He is a second rounder though...right?...ok SI has Bonga as the 56th overall. He's German league so he can hang with Theis….also?
18 years old
6' 9"
205 lbs.
He's smooth like Walt Frazier (he can glide like Clyde)....where you gonna get an NBA comp like dat?
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It depends on where we are picking, moving up per rumors etc, but I like Mo Wagner ( It might be too slow for NBA but on offense he looks good...) I Like Divincenzo just because he went full alpha in the championship game! With that said my draft pinkie is Isaac Bonga. He's not the type of player that maybe the Celtics need as he a swing for the fences, draft and stash guy. He is so young and has so many skills you can teach, timing, court vision, crazy length. He has an 8'10" standing reach and a 7 foot wingspan. He's a 6'9" point guard with a really good handle.
I love that suggestion. TP. Just saw he is coming out this year.
http://www.espn.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/32688/german-forward-isaac-bonga-declaring-for-nba-draft
Thanks for the link. 56th best prospect seems low for this guy. It would be sweet to buy an early second rounder to get his rights and stash him over seas for a couple of years.
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I have watched Bonga's highlights and I've decided we combine him with Bamba…
"Bonga to Bamba
underneath for the and one!"
In all seriousness, Bonga looked really good against the euros. He has a handle and can pass.
He is a second rounder though...right?...ok SI has Bonga as the 56th overall. He's German league so he can hang with Theis….also?
18 years old
6' 9"
205 lbs.
He's smooth like Walt Frazier (he can glide like Clyde)....where you gonna get an NBA comp like dat?
I think he rises to at least the beginning of the 2nd round because he has crazy upside....
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Wagner
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Wagner
I like Wagner a lot too but I'm not sure he has the foot speed to guard his position in the NBA. He looks like he'll be able to score maybe he's a little Lauri Markkanen? He has grit and and plays really hard.
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JR Smith is really inviting the Celtics to draft Grayson Allen.
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Trade out.
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Steph curry
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No one.
I have zero interest in this draft for the Celtics. None.
Same. No one excites me this year, esp with our draft position. I hope Doncic succeeds/isn't drafted by SAC, though. Fun player to watch thus far.
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No one.
I have zero interest in this draft for the Celtics. None.
Same. No one excites me this year, esp with our draft position. I hope Doncic succeeds/isn't drafted by SAC, though. Fun player to watch thus far.
You can Always jump on the nonsensical Bonga wagon with me.
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No one.
I have zero interest in this draft for the Celtics. None.
Same. No one excites me this year, esp with our draft position. I hope Doncic succeeds/isn't drafted by SAC, though. Fun player to watch thus far.
You can Always jump on the nonsensical Bonga wagon with me.
Cool, I'm in. May be fun to pull for the guy projected to go #58, too. Imagine successfully calling that one? 76ers can hire us as co-GMs.
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No one.
I have zero interest in this draft for the Celtics. None.
Same. No one excites me this year, esp with our draft position. I hope Doncic succeeds/isn't drafted by SAC, though. Fun player to watch thus far.
You can Always jump on the nonsensical Bonga wagon with me.
Cool, I'm in. May be fun to pull for the guy projected to go #58, too. Imagine successfully calling that one? 76ers can hire us as co-GMs.
I have to be right about one of these late picks some time. I don't think I ever have been before but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
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Jevon Carter, Elie Okobo, Brandon McCoy and recently converted to the Isaac Bonga camp ;D
My favourite has to be Carter. Plays incredibly hard on the defensive end, and plays the right way offensively. Think he's underrated, and will be like if TJ McConnell had a jumpshot
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Been banging the Bamba drum all year, was convinced he'd be better than Ayton before the season. Attending the Sloan Sports Analytics conference and asking Morey a question? Seems like a bright young man, with a desire to succeed and near legendary physical ability.
He's been working on his 3 ball for years and I could definitely see a world where provides elite rim protection solid switching versatility, and 2 or so 3's a game on solid percentages opening up lanes for Kyrie and Tatum. I'd do whatever it takes to pick up Mo Bamba.
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Been banging the Bamba drum all year, was convinced he'd be better than Ayton. Attending the Sloan Sports Analytics conference and asking Morey a question? Seems like a bright young man with legendary measureables.
He's been working on his 3 ball for years and I could definitely see a world where provides elite rim protection solid switching versatility, 2 or so 3's a game on solid percentages opening up lanes for Kyrie and Tatum. I'd do whatever it takes to pick up Mo Bamba.
Pretty sure he had a successful application to Harvard, if I remember right. I bet him and Brad would have fun conversations.
If he pans out he could be absolutely amazing
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Should The Celtics trade back and get two second round picks for their first rounder? They could get those two sixers picks at 38 and 39 but Philly probably hangs up on Danny. Dallas has two at 33 and 54, but I think the really good one would be Phoenix with the 31st pick and 59th. So many teams have a lot of picks in this draft. Philly has six picks and they might need to clear cap space for a free agent.
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Ainge will probably draft Hamidou Diallo in second round if he is still available.
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Ainge will probably draft Hamidou Diallo in second round if he is still available.
Has to get a pick first...
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In order:
Khyri Thomas
Bonga stash
Keita Bates Diop
Spellman (if Spellman gets cut (as in ripped) in the NBA could he start to do Draymond type things basketball wise?
Divincenzo: looks like a fun, twitchy player to watch hustle around, pester and shoot (no to Grayson!)
mid to late lottery: Carter, Mikal Bridges, K. Knox
2cnd round if we get a pick: Wagner, Duval, Alkins
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Bonga the most popular binkie... didn't see that one coming. Time for Ainge to buy a second rounder :P
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Been banging the Bamba drum all year, was convinced he'd be better than Ayton. Attending the Sloan Sports Analytics conference and asking Morey a question? Seems like a bright young man with legendary measureables.
He's been working on his 3 ball for years and I could definitely see a world where provides elite rim protection solid switching versatility, 2 or so 3's a game on solid percentages opening up lanes for Kyrie and Tatum. I'd do whatever it takes to pick up Mo Bamba.
Pretty sure he had a successful application to Harvard, if I remember right. I bet him and Brad would have fun conversations.
If he pans out he could be absolutely amazing
Forgot he was considering Harvard, interesting cat. Could be the Jaylen Brown style, cerebral, athletic freak of this draft.
I'm probably in the minority on this but if it takes Jaylen to get Bamba I'd have to do it. -Since I don't see Rozier and picks getting the deal done-
Maybe something like...
Griz send
Memphis 2018 pick
Tyreke Sign and Trade
Celts send
Jaylen Brown
Protected Memphis Pick
Many voices I respect around here have argued that you don't trade an established talent like Jaylen for a draft pick who hasn't set foot in the NBA yet.
While conventionally I'd agree, Bamba is a IMO a special case. This is a guy that would've jumped strait from high school if he was allowed and provides an NBA ready skill set comprised of floor spacing and switchability, two things we highly value in a big man.
It'd be incredible to watch Bamba's improvement game in and game out and would have the potential to produce one of the most legendary big man rivalry since Shaq and Duncan with the Embiid in Philly factor.
I believe the death of the center position has been greatly exaggerated thanks to a dry spell of talented bigs from about 2008 to 2014ish. The Giants aren't dead, they've just been sleeping.
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Been banging the Bamba drum all year, was convinced he'd be better than Ayton. Attending the Sloan Sports Analytics conference and asking Morey a question? Seems like a bright young man with legendary measureables.
He's been working on his 3 ball for years and I could definitely see a world where provides elite rim protection solid switching versatility, 2 or so 3's a game on solid percentages opening up lanes for Kyrie and Tatum. I'd do whatever it takes to pick up Mo Bamba.
Pretty sure he had a successful application to Harvard, if I remember right. I bet him and Brad would have fun conversations.
If he pans out he could be absolutely amazing
Forgot he was considering Harvard, interesting cat. Could be the Jaylen Brown style, cerebral, athletic freak of this draft.
I'm probably in the minority on this but if it takes Jaylen to get Bamba I'd have to do it. -Since I don't see Rozier and picks getting the deal done-
Maybe something like...
Griz send
Memphis 2018 pick
Tyreke Sign and Trade
Celts send
Jaylen Brown
Protected Memphis Pick
Many voices I respect around here have argued that you don't trade an established talent like Jaylen for a draft pick who hasn't set foot in the NBA yet.
While conventionally I'd agree, Bamba is a IMO a special case. This is a guy that would've jumped strait from high school if he was allowed and provides an NBA ready skill set comprised of floor spacing and switchability, two things we highly value in a big man.
It'd be incredible to watch Bamba's improvement game in and game out and would have the potential to produce one of the most legendary big man rivalry since Shaq and Duncan with the Embiid in Philly factor.
I believe the death of the center position has been greatly exaggerated thanks to a dry spell of talented bigs from about 2008 to 2014ish. The Giants aren't dead, they've just been sleeping.
Yep, love Bamba as well. Not sure I'd be willing to part ways with Brown though.
It seems possible that Bamba will still be on the board at #4. Suppose we give the Grizzlies back their 2019 pick + Kings 2019 + Rozier + Yabu for #4. Even if they say no, we still have the Clips 2019 pick, our #27 pick this year and all our future firsts.
Obviously, at some point it's no longer worth it anymore. Having said that, if Danny believes Bamba is the man, it's possible that we can strike a deal without having to include Brown.
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I have been all in on bamba for months.
Sacto pick+our pick+clippers pick.
Git her done danny boyyyy
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Should The Celtics trade back and get two second round picks for their first rounder? They could get those two sixers picks at 38 and 39 but Philly probably hangs up on Danny. Dallas has two at 33 and 54, but I think the really good one would be Phoenix with the 31st pick and 59th. So many teams have a lot of picks in this draft. Philly has six picks and they might need to clear cap space for a free agent.
It depends if you think the Celtics should/will use the MLE to resign Baynes or another free agent. An early 2nd rounder will eat into a decent chunk of that exception, unless you want to sign him for just two years at the minimum (answer: you don’t want to do that). If you are hoping that the Celtics will use the MLE, then you should not want them to trade into the early 2nd.
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Jevon Carter, Elie Okobo, Brandon McCoy and recently converted to the Isaac Bonga camp ;D
My favourite has to be Carter. Plays incredibly hard on the defensive end, and plays the right way offensively. Think he's underrated, and will be like if TJ McConnell had a jumpshot
I’ve read that he’s a little slow - maybe not Greg Monroe level, but likely to have a real problem switching into wings or playing the pick and roll. Also, not much of an outside game. If so, not a great match for the Cs. Do you hear something more promising?
Of course, they said Tatum didn’t have 3-point range and would have a hard time getting his shot off because he lacked athleticism...
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Should The Celtics trade back and get two second round picks for their first rounder? They could get those two sixers picks at 38 and 39 but Philly probably hangs up on Danny. Dallas has two at 33 and 54, but I think the really good one would be Phoenix with the 31st pick and 59th. So many teams have a lot of picks in this draft. Philly has six picks and they might need to clear cap space for a free agent.
It depends if you think the Celtics should/will use the MLE to resign Baynes or another free agent. An early 2nd rounder will eat into a decent chunk of that exception, unless you want to sign him for just two years at the minimum (answer: you don’t want to do that). If you are hoping that the Celtics will use the MLE, then you should not want them to trade into the early 2nd.
There is no need to trade for a 2nd round pick when you can just buy one. The Sixers sold two of their 4 2nd rounders last draft and I expect they'll do it again this draft. GSW was able to buy 2nd rounders in the past 2 drafts. If you're getting the 2nd rounder for a draft and stash like Bonga, it won't affect the MLE.
Are you not able to give 2nd rounders Hinkie Special contracts anymore?
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Trade Up:
Wendall Carter - I love his feel for the game and instincts on both ends. Plays very similarly to Horford except not as athletic.
Bigs at 27:
Jarred Vanderbilt - I'm a sucker for playmaking bigs plus he might be the best rebounder in the draft. He can't really shoot but he can improve a little and his medical checks out, he would be a steal.
Omari Spellman - Floor spacing big who isn't a bad defender and comes from a good program. I also think he has some athletic upside with him being an out of shape freshman.
Wings and Guards at 27:
Josh Okogie: Great defender and above average athlete which fits the Ainge profile. He's got good shooting mechanics but is only 6'4
Kevin Huerter - Looks a lot like Klay Thompson on offense, less so on defense but still is a solid team defender. I read that he had a promise in the middle of the draft (probably ATL at 19) so we won't likely have a shot at him.
Elie Okobo - Really good pick and roll player who can drive to the rim and shoot off the dribble. I agree with the other posters who suggested he could fill the Rozier roll if we choose to trade him. Also you can never have enough PGs on the roster with Kyrie and Smart's injury histories as we saw in the playoffs.
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Jevon Carter, Elie Okobo, Brandon McCoy and recently converted to the Isaac Bonga camp ;D
My favourite has to be Carter. Plays incredibly hard on the defensive end, and plays the right way offensively. Think he's underrated, and will be like if TJ McConnell had a jumpshot
I’ve read that he’s a little slow - maybe not Greg Monroe level, but likely to have a real problem switching into wings or playing the pick and roll. Also, not much of an outside game. If so, not a great match for the Cs. Do you hear something more promising?
Of course, they said Tatum didn’t have 3-point range and would have a hard time getting his shot off because he lacked athleticism...
I haven't read that, but from watching him (caught around 15 Duke games) I don't really see that all. He is definitely a big body, but his mobility is surprisingly good. Plus, he averaged 2 blocks and nearly a steal per game, so his defence is pretty good.
In regard to his range, he actually hit 19 of 46 three point shots. Obviously not numbers that blow you away, but he clearly doesn't hesitate from range if he shoots over 1 a game. Coupled with his 74% mark from the FT line and I trust that he will be a good shooter.
I believe that if Bagley weren't there there'd be way more hype over Carter Jr.
But yeah, maybe scouts just hate Duke guys that can't throw down windmill dunks ;)
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Donte DiVincenzo looks like a baller, but i'm very concerned of his upside skill-wise, looks like a solid bench contributor, which not so attractive
Wagner's skill and touch is very impressive, only if he can rebound than i can see being a starter 4~5
I am on giving me some Bamba, we need game changers
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Goga Bitadze
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
Moritz Wagner
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Goga Bitadze
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
Moritz Wagner
Bitadze looks incredibly slow from what I've seen. Like, Monroe slow
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Goga Bitadze
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
Moritz Wagner
Bitadze looks incredibly slow from what I've seen. Like, Monroe slow
How could he be slow? He's so eager chasing for blocks. He even gets ahead than his teammates in the offensive end.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y_zB0u7wcJQ
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stay put at 27/omari spellman
move up into the lotto /jaren jackson
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Next year's Sacramento pick.
Mike
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Goga Bitadze
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
Moritz Wagner
Bitadze looks incredibly slow from what I've seen. Like, Monroe slow
How could he be slow? He's so eager chasing for blocks. He even gets ahead than his teammates in the offensive end.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y_zB0u7wcJQ
I mean slow because he is a frankly terrible perimeter defender. Players with even a hint of speed on the perimeter blow by him like he's not even there. He generally has a lot to learn defensively, with slow feet, bad defensive positioning, very foul prone and a tendency to watch the ball and lose his man.
He also has a bad temperament. No interest
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Shooting is always nice: Dzanan Musa.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWsl89TyPY0
He looks like Steph Curry in these highlights!
That 3 point line is the same as the NBA line!
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Shooting is always nice: Dzanan Musa.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWsl89TyPY0
He looks like Steph Curry in these highlights!
That 3 point line is the same as the NBA line!
Wow. This is the first I have heard of him. Is he in the draft?
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HOW
abou
the TWO. Ball brothers ?
Acording to Lavar they are certain HOF ers
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Donte DiVincenzo looks like a baller, but i'm very concerned of his upside skill-wise, looks like a solid bench contributor, which not so attractive
Are you expecting an all star?
If you can get a solid bench producer with a Mid 1st to 30 pick, than thats great
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Goga Bitadze
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
Moritz Wagner
to be honest, i hope the celtics get sviatoslav mykhailiuk simply so i can listen to tommy try to say his name. ;D
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In order:
Khyri Thomas
Bonga stash
Keita Bates Diop
Spellman (if Spellman gets cut (as in ripped) in the NBA could he start to do Draymond type things basketball wise?
Divincenzo: looks like a fun, twitchy player to watch hustle around, pester and shoot (no to Grayson!)
mid to late lottery: Carter, Mikal Bridges, K. Knox
2cnd round if we get a pick: Wagner, Duval, Alkins
Like Diop wouldn't mind him at 27.
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just a quick update on which teams are working out which players.
https://hoopshype.com/2018/05/19/2018-nba-pre-draft-workouts-whos-going-where/
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just a quick update on which teams are working out which players.
https://hoopshype.com/2018/05/19/2018-nba-pre-draft-workouts-whos-going-where/
TP.
Is Mitchell Robinson working out with any teams? Could not find his name.
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just a quick update on which teams are working out which players.
https://hoopshype.com/2018/05/19/2018-nba-pre-draft-workouts-whos-going-where/
TP.
Is Mitchell Robinson working out with any teams? Could not find his name.
I thought that he shut down work outs because he was promised a 1st round spot...
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just a quick update on which teams are working out which players.
https://hoopshype.com/2018/05/19/2018-nba-pre-draft-workouts-whos-going-where/
TP.
Is Mitchell Robinson working out with any teams? Could not find his name.
I thought that he shut down work outs because he was promised a 1st round spot...
That has been the rumor.
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just a quick update on which teams are working out which players.
https://hoopshype.com/2018/05/19/2018-nba-pre-draft-workouts-whos-going-where/
TP.
Is Mitchell Robinson working out with any teams? Could not find his name.
I thought that he shut down work outs because he was promised a 1st round spot...
That has been the rumor.
Oh, just a rumor...
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
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just a quick update on which teams are working out which players.
https://hoopshype.com/2018/05/19/2018-nba-pre-draft-workouts-whos-going-where/
TP.
Is Mitchell Robinson working out with any teams? Could not find his name.
I thought that he shut down work outs because he was promised a 1st round spot...
That has been the rumor.
Oh, just a rumor...
He withdrew from NBA predraft measurements and workout. Not aware he was not working out for teams.
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HOW
abou
the TWO. Ball brothers ?
Acording to Lavar they are certain HOF ers
Forget it, let them go to the Lakers. That team needs some Balls.
Mike
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Oh goodie, it's binky time! Binky! ;D
Anywho ;D, mine is Rawle Alkins.
TP! Alkins is mine too.
Trade back into 2nd round for him.
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At 27 I’d be good with:
Mitchell Robinson
Chandler Hutchinson (probably going a few spots earlier)
Mo Wagner
Jerome Robinson (think he’s very underrated because BC was awful)
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Oh goodie, it's binky time! Binky! ;D
Anywho ;D, mine is Rawle Alkins.
TP! Alkins is mine too.
Trade back into 2nd round for him.
Is there someone else who you'd like to take, because if not, why not just use 27 on "You're Gonna Hear Me Rawle" ;D? Is it an issue related to salaries, or something?
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At 27 I’d be good with:
Mitchell Robinson
Chandler Hutchinson (probably going a few spots earlier)
Mo Wagner
Jerome Robinson (think he’s very underrated because BC was awful)
I'll add DiVincenzo or Spellman to that list. But TP, I like your overall list tbh.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
I know I’m going to get flamed for this, but some aspects (not all!) of his game remind me of Bird a bit. Particularly on offence. Obviously a higher emphasis on the three rather than the mid-range, and not nearly the rebounder Bird was, but the way Doncic gets points reminds me of some of the ways Bird used to.
Please don’t shoot me for saying such a sacrilegious thing! I’m not saying he’ll have a career like Bird or anything, not even comparing him really, but a considerable portion of what he does is Bird-esque. Plus, he plays with fire in his belly, which is awesome fun
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Hamidou Diallo.
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Robert Wiliams. I'd love to see the fireworks with Kyrie dishing Jaylen and Williams alley oops. That or Kyrie can kick it out to Tatum or Hayward for an open 3.
I think Williams will be gone by 27, so I'll be fine when Danny draft and stashes some 7 ft skinny European dude that I've never heard of.
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At 27 I’d be good with:
Mitchell Robinson
Chandler Hutchinson (probably going a few spots earlier)
Mo Wagner
Jerome Robinson (think he’s very underrated because BC was awful)
I'll add DiVincenzo or Spellman to that list. But TP, I like your overall list tbh.
Tp to you too for the suggestions. I’d be happy with either of those guys as well
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
Okay, first of all, thanks for the breakdown, so TP :).
That said, and I want to preface this by saying that I was completely wrong about Tatum, I just watched this highlight video so I am now obviously an expert in all things Luka Doncic, LOL ;) ::) ;D, and I have to tell you, outside of 2-3 post-ups and passes, I guess, there's nothing about him that even remotely intrigues me :-\, so what am I missing, here, besides everything, lol?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRLFREnWUoc
Do I need to look at another highlight video, because that seems like a lot of work ;) ::) ;D.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
I know I’m going to get flamed for this, but some aspects (not all!) of his game remind me of Bird a bit. Particularly on offence. Obviously a higher emphasis on the three rather than the mid-range, and not nearly the rebounder Bird was, but the way Doncic gets points reminds me of some of the ways Bird used to.
Please don’t shoot me for saying such a sacrilegious thing! I’m not saying he’ll have a career like Bird or anything, not even comparing him really, but a considerable portion of what he does is Bird-esque. Plus, he plays with fire in his belly, which is awesome fun
Really, because I don't see any of that at all. Dude looks like a slower, albeit better passing, version of Mario Hezonja, imo.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
I know I’m going to get flamed for this, but some aspects (not all!) of his game remind me of Bird a bit. Particularly on offence. Obviously a higher emphasis on the three rather than the mid-range, and not nearly the rebounder Bird was, but the way Doncic gets points reminds me of some of the ways Bird used to.
Please don’t shoot me for saying such a sacrilegious thing! I’m not saying he’ll have a career like Bird or anything, not even comparing him really, but a considerable portion of what he does is Bird-esque. Plus, he plays with fire in his belly, which is awesome fun
Really, because I don't see any of that at all. Dude looks like a slower, albeit better passing, version of Mario Hezonja, imo.
To each their own, but I don’t get that comp whatsoever. Hezonja never had a season 50% as good as Doncic has had this year
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I don't have a draft binkie, if we keep our pick I hope we get a guy who can come in and play and has a few years under his belt aka an upperclassman. We are in win now mode not project mode.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
I know I’m going to get flamed for this, but some aspects (not all!) of his game remind me of Bird a bit. Particularly on offence. Obviously a higher emphasis on the three rather than the mid-range, and not nearly the rebounder Bird was, but the way Doncic gets points reminds me of some of the ways Bird used to.
Please don’t shoot me for saying such a sacrilegious thing! I’m not saying he’ll have a career like Bird or anything, not even comparing him really, but a considerable portion of what he does is Bird-esque. Plus, he plays with fire in his belly, which is awesome fun
Really, because I don't see any of that at all. Dude looks like a slower, albeit better passing, version of Mario Hezonja, imo.
To each their own, but I don’t get that comp whatsoever. Hezonja never had a season 50% as good as Doncic has had this year
Any particular clips/highlight videos that I should watch in order to get the full Luka Doncic experience, lol ;D, because in the one that I just viewed he couldn't get around/create any kind of space against the only two black guys on the court, LOL ;D, and this dude is 18? :o Shouldn't he be a lot faster, quicker, and a much better leaper? That's where the comparison to Hezonja comes into play, for me, but I'm weird :-\, and remember, I was dead wrong about Tatum, so there's that ;D.
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I don't have a draft binkie, if we keep our pick I hope we get a guy who can come in and play and has a few years under his belt aka an upperclassman. We are in win now mode not project mode.
No binky? Waaaaa! :'(
;D
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
I know I’m going to get flamed for this, but some aspects (not all!) of his game remind me of Bird a bit. Particularly on offence. Obviously a higher emphasis on the three rather than the mid-range, and not nearly the rebounder Bird was, but the way Doncic gets points reminds me of some of the ways Bird used to.
Please don’t shoot me for saying such a sacrilegious thing! I’m not saying he’ll have a career like Bird or anything, not even comparing him really, but a considerable portion of what he does is Bird-esque. Plus, he plays with fire in his belly, which is awesome fun
Really, because I don't see any of that at all. Dude looks like a slower, albeit better passing, version of Mario Hezonja, imo.
To each their own, but I don’t get that comp whatsoever. Hezonja never had a season 50% as good as Doncic has had this year
Any particular clips/highlight videos that I should watch in order to get the full Luka Doncic experience, lol ;D, because in the one that I just viewed he couldn't get around/create any kind of space against the only two black guys on the court, LOL ;D, and this dude is 18? :o Shouldn't he be a lot faster, quicker, and a much better leaper? That's where the comparison to Hezonja comes into play, for me, but I'm weird :-\, and remember, I was dead wrong about Tatum, so there's that ;D.
I was wrong about Tatum too! I remember being quite angry after traded #1 lol.
But with Doncic, I feel it's a bit harder to get a feel for him from watching highlight videos as you don't ever really see his defensive versatility in them, but as a 6'8" 230lb guy who can guard some PG's, most SG's and SF's and some PF's it's a crucial aspect of his game.
His EuroBasket work is really impressive, as he goes up against a lot of NBA caliber guys, and dominated next to Dragic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_bUEAaaR40
His legit NBA range and insane ball-handling really show in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-t9j71jbp0
This is a good clip for his performance for Real. Shows his IQ and ability to score from all three levels. Like Tatum, he uses a lot of dribble moves for separation, e.g. how Tatum uses a hang hesitation dribble to shoot from, except Doncic uses similar moves more for getting to the ring and passing.
I think he'll be truly special
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Been banging the Bamba drum all year, was convinced he'd be better than Ayton. Attending the Sloan Sports Analytics conference and asking Morey a question? Seems like a bright young man with legendary measureables.
He's been working on his 3 ball for years and I could definitely see a world where provides elite rim protection solid switching versatility, 2 or so 3's a game on solid percentages opening up lanes for Kyrie and Tatum. I'd do whatever it takes to pick up Mo Bamba.
Pretty sure he had a successful application to Harvard, if I remember right. I bet him and Brad would have fun conversations.
If he pans out he could be absolutely amazing
Ok, if Bamba got into Harvard, I might have to trade binkie rights from Bonga....they're only 50 picks apart.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
It would be amazing. Doncic looks incredible... Dream big!
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
I know I’m going to get flamed for this, but some aspects (not all!) of his game remind me of Bird a bit. Particularly on offence. Obviously a higher emphasis on the three rather than the mid-range, and not nearly the rebounder Bird was, but the way Doncic gets points reminds me of some of the ways Bird used to.
Please don’t shoot me for saying such a sacrilegious thing! I’m not saying he’ll have a career like Bird or anything, not even comparing him really, but a considerable portion of what he does is Bird-esque. Plus, he plays with fire in his belly, which is awesome fun
Really, because I don't see any of that at all. Dude looks like a slower, albeit better passing, version of Mario Hezonja, imo.
To each their own, but I don’t get that comp whatsoever. Hezonja never had a season 50% as good as Doncic has had this year
Any particular clips/highlight videos that I should watch in order to get the full Luka Doncic experience, lol ;D, because in the one that I just viewed he couldn't get around/create any kind of space against the only two black guys on the court, LOL ;D, and this dude is 18? :o Shouldn't he be a lot faster, quicker, and a much better leaper? That's where the comparison to Hezonja comes into play, for me, but I'm weird :-\, and remember, I was dead wrong about Tatum, so there's that ;D.
I was wrong about Tatum too! I remember being quite angry after traded #1 lol.
But with Doncic, I feel it's a bit harder to get a feel for him from watching highlight videos as you don't ever really see his defensive versatility in them, but as a 6'8" 230lb guy who can guard some PG's, most SG's and SF's and some PF's it's a crucial aspect of his game.
His EuroBasket work is really impressive, as he goes up against a lot of NBA caliber guys, and dominated next to Dragic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_bUEAaaR40
His legit NBA range and insane ball-handling really show in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-t9j71jbp0
This is a good clip for his performance for Real. Shows his IQ and ability to score from all three levels. Like Tatum, he uses a lot of dribble moves for separation, e.g. how Tatum uses a hang hesitation dribble to shoot from, except Doncic uses similar moves more for getting to the ring and passing.
I think he'll be truly special
Brb...;D.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
Okay, first of all, thanks for the breakdown, so TP :).
That said, and I want to preface this by saying that I was completely wrong about Tatum, I just watched this highlight video so I am now obviously an expert in all things Luka Doncic, LOL ;) ::) ;D, and I have to tell you, outside of 2-3 post-ups and passes, I guess, there's nothing about him that even remotely intrigues me :-\, so what am I missing, here, besides everything, lol?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRLFREnWUoc
Do I need to look at another highlight video, because that seems like a lot of work ;) ::) ;D.
I don’t have highlight videos to recommend. I’ve watched about a dozen full games of his, which are way better to go off than highlight videos. (Not saying you should run and do that — I watched about a game a month). He’s very instinctive, at both ends of the court. There’s a reason he was the Euroleague MVP, the Euroleague Final Four MVP, the Spanish League MVP, and that his team won the Euroleague, will win the Spanish league this week, and that Slovenia won Eurobasket. He was the best player on the court in September when Slovenia beat Spain by 20 in the Eurobasket semis. That court also included both Gasols, Rubio, and Dragic. There’s no question in my mind he would have started for a majority of NBA teams this season, and would have been in the rotation for every single one.
I don’t know how many, if any, teams will pass on him. Any that do will regret it. I frankly think the Doncic falling past #1 rumor is just a smokescreen and a need to generate clicks, same as it was obvious that Ben Simmons was the best player in the draft a couple of years ago. (And if I had Doncic, I wouldn’t trade him straight up for Simmons). Doncic has a Hall of Fame ceiling with a quality starter floor. He’s the only player in this draft I would conceive of trading Tatum or Brown for.
And the only reason he hasn’t announced that he’s coming to the NBA yet is because his team is still playing, and he’s both professional and a good teammate. A couple days after they win he will announce that he’s coming to the NBA. He has zero left to prove in Europe.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
My comp is Ben Simmons with a jump shot. Doncic is huge like Simmons and can pass like that and break down defenses like that but with a vastly superior jump shot. .333 career 3 point shooter in EuroLeague competition. 80% free-throw shooter.
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Jarred Vanderbilt
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I don’t have highlight videos to recommend. I’ve watched about a dozen full games of his, which are way better to go off than highlight videos. (Not saying you should run and do that — I watched about a game a month). He’s very instinctive, at both ends of the court. There’s a reason he was the Euroleague MVP, the Euroleague Final Four MVP, the Spanish League MVP, and that his team won the Euroleague, will win the Spanish league this week, and that Slovenia won Eurobasket. He was the best player on the court in September when Slovenia beat Spain by 20 in the Eurobasket semis. That court also included both Gasols, Rubio, and Dragic. There’s no question in my mind he would have started for a majority of NBA teams this season, and would have been in the rotation for every single one.
I don’t know how many, if any, teams will pass on him. Any that do will regret it. I frankly think the Doncic falling past #1 rumor is just a smokescreen and a need to generate clicks, same as it was obvious that Ben Simmons was the best player in the draft a couple of years ago. (And if I had Doncic, I wouldn’t trade him straight up for Simmons). Doncic has a Hall of Fame ceiling with a quality starter floor. He’s the only player in this draft I would conceive of trading Tatum or Brown for.
And the only reason he hasn’t announced that he’s coming to the NBA yet is because his team is still playing, and he’s both professional and a good teammate. A couple days after they win he will announce that he’s coming to the NBA. He has zero left to prove in Europe.
I'll certainly cede to your expertise, here, seeing as to how you've clearly seen far more of him than I have, and in the videos that gouki88 provided (and TP to him for that, btw :)), yeah, okay, I loved the two passes that he threw between the legs of, well, two defenders, but I guess that my hesitation/problem with Doncic primarily stems from the fact that he wasn't executing hardly any of his step-back/crossover moves against guys with NBA-level lateral quickness, or at least imo, anyway, which I realize doesn't exactly count for anything, lol ;D, and when he matched up against Kevin Seraphin, of all people, who could barely guard anyone in the league, Luka couldn't even get around him, not to mention the fact that it looks like he also struggles with getting, well, around "the show" as exhibited by the opposing big guys when defending against pick and rolls in those videos.
Aside from that, those are some pretty bold statements that you've made, there, and for me, I guess that it just comes down to skepticism, as we've seen accomplished European players come over to the NBA, before, who were expected to be stars or at least very good players, iirc, and too many of them just flat out couldn't guard anyone, at the absolute minimum, and as a result I just wonder as to if these guys had come up through the collegiate ranks as opposed to starring on the international circuit, would they even be drafted, because physically, they're not at all different from their American counterparts, and yet the dudes in Europe wind up being lottery picks while similar, well, white American college players ultimately find themselves playing in, well, Europe, lol.
I just think that the whole thing is weird :-\.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
I know I’m going to get flamed for this, but some aspects (not all!) of his game remind me of Bird a bit. Particularly on offence. Obviously a higher emphasis on the three rather than the mid-range, and not nearly the rebounder Bird was, but the way Doncic gets points reminds me of some of the ways Bird used to.
Please don’t shoot me for saying such a sacrilegious thing! I’m not saying he’ll have a career like Bird or anything, not even comparing him really, but a considerable portion of what he does is Bird-esque. Plus, he plays with fire in his belly, which is awesome fun
Really, because I don't see any of that at all. Dude looks like a slower, albeit better passing, version of Mario Hezonja, imo.
To each their own, but I don’t get that comp whatsoever. Hezonja never had a season 50% as good as Doncic has had this year
Any particular clips/highlight videos that I should watch in order to get the full Luka Doncic experience, lol ;D, because in the one that I just viewed he couldn't get around/create any kind of space against the only two black guys on the court, LOL ;D, and this dude is 18? :o Shouldn't he be a lot faster, quicker, and a much better leaper? That's where the comparison to Hezonja comes into play, for me, but I'm weird :-\, and remember, I was dead wrong about Tatum, so there's that ;D.
Two new videos that you may find more helpful:
Strengths: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwGFRNilQ8Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwGFRNilQ8Q)
Weaknesses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYp6rav9TiU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYp6rav9TiU)
He's definitely difficult to gauge, but ultimately I think he's a very good prospect. While he can be nifty with the ball, he often seems very practical and in his decision-making, and perhaps that's why he appears less exciting. He's not flashy, but his bbIQ and confidence is high. While he's average-ish athletically, he has great size and agility to make good on what he has.
My favorite comp is a hybrid of Hayward and Ginobili.
You may watch these and then flip over to some college highlights, like Ayton's - it'll give you a good picture of just how much bigger and stronger Doncic's competition has been.
All that said, I have mixed feelings about how his career is going to pan out. First, any one that goes to SAC (#2) is at a disadvantage. Second, he's the type of player that will excel around other great players. Like Ginobili and Hayward, his skills (IQ, playmaking, etc) can make every one else on the court better; at the same time, if he's surrounded by poor/unmotivated players, many of those contributions could be lost.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
I know I’m going to get flamed for this, but some aspects (not all!) of his game remind me of Bird a bit. Particularly on offence. Obviously a higher emphasis on the three rather than the mid-range, and not nearly the rebounder Bird was, but the way Doncic gets points reminds me of some of the ways Bird used to.
Please don’t shoot me for saying such a sacrilegious thing! I’m not saying he’ll have a career like Bird or anything, not even comparing him really, but a considerable portion of what he does is Bird-esque. Plus, he plays with fire in his belly, which is awesome fun
Really, because I don't see any of that at all. Dude looks like a slower, albeit better passing, version of Mario Hezonja, imo.
To each their own, but I don’t get that comp whatsoever. Hezonja never had a season 50% as good as Doncic has had this year
Any particular clips/highlight videos that I should watch in order to get the full Luka Doncic experience, lol ;D, because in the one that I just viewed he couldn't get around/create any kind of space against the only two black guys on the court, LOL ;D, and this dude is 18? :o Shouldn't he be a lot faster, quicker, and a much better leaper? That's where the comparison to Hezonja comes into play, for me, but I'm weird :-\, and remember, I was dead wrong about Tatum, so there's that ;D.
Two new videos that you may find more helpful:
Strengths: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwGFRNilQ8Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwGFRNilQ8Q)
Weaknesses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYp6rav9TiU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYp6rav9TiU)
He's definitely difficult to gauge, but ultimately I think he's a very good prospect. While he can be nifty with the ball, he often seems very practical and in his decision-making, and perhaps that's why he appears less exciting. He's not flashy, but his bbIQ and confidence is high. While he's average-ish athletically, he has great size and agility to make good on what he has.
My favorite comp is a hybrid of Hayward and Ginobili.
You may watch these and then flip over to some college highlights, like Ayton's - it'll give you a good picture of just how much bigger and stronger Doncic's competition has been.
All that said, I have mixed feelings about how his career is going to pan out. First, any one that goes to SAC (#2) is at a disadvantage. Second, he's the type of player that will excel around other great players. Like Ginobili and Hayward, his skills (IQ, playmaking, etc) can make every one else on the court better; at the same time, if he's surrounded by poor/unmotivated players, many of those contributions could be lost.
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I'm seeing Draft projects with Doncic at the 2nd pick or even third. I saw one with Doncic going forth to the Grizzles. If he falls that far Danny should go after him.
I can’t see the Grizzlies passing at 4, or trading him for anything but a huge package. But if Ainge can somehow get Doncic without giving up Brown or Tatum, he is my hero. I haven’t posted in the draft draft thread because Doncic has been my 2018 draft binkie for 18 months. And I can’t let myself dream.
To whom would you compare Doncic? I only ask because, well, I don't know much of anything about him other than the possibility of the guy staying in Europe next year and the fact that Phoenix just hired one of his former coaches, or something. I think.
I don’t like comps for him because we really haven’t seen a player like him before. People like saying Hayward for some reason, but they’re sort of comparing Doncic at 18 and 19 to a version of Hayward at age 25, and that feels wrong. So, in keeping with the spirit of comparing him to players Celtics’ fans will recognize, I will say he’s Jayson Tatum but better. Maybe Tatum has an inch in him — Doncic has a lack of verifiable measurements so it’s tough to say — but a better Jayson Tatum. He can do all the stuff Tatum does, some of it a little better, and he can be an actual point guard as opposed to an emergency point guard because somehow three or four of them got injured at once.
I know I’m going to get flamed for this, but some aspects (not all!) of his game remind me of Bird a bit. Particularly on offence. Obviously a higher emphasis on the three rather than the mid-range, and not nearly the rebounder Bird was, but the way Doncic gets points reminds me of some of the ways Bird used to.
Please don’t shoot me for saying such a sacrilegious thing! I’m not saying he’ll have a career like Bird or anything, not even comparing him really, but a considerable portion of what he does is Bird-esque. Plus, he plays with fire in his belly, which is awesome fun
Really, because I don't see any of that at all. Dude looks like a slower, albeit better passing, version of Mario Hezonja, imo.
To each their own, but I don’t get that comp whatsoever. Hezonja never had a season 50% as good as Doncic has had this year
Any particular clips/highlight videos that I should watch in order to get the full Luka Doncic experience, lol ;D, because in the one that I just viewed he couldn't get around/create any kind of space against the only two black guys on the court, LOL ;D, and this dude is 18? :o Shouldn't he be a lot faster, quicker, and a much better leaper? That's where the comparison to Hezonja comes into play, for me, but I'm weird :-\, and remember, I was dead wrong about Tatum, so there's that ;D.
Two new videos that you may find more helpful:
Strengths: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwGFRNilQ8Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwGFRNilQ8Q)
Weaknesses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYp6rav9TiU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYp6rav9TiU)
He's definitely difficult to gauge, but ultimately I think he's a very good prospect. While he can be nifty with the ball, he often seems very practical and in his decision-making, and perhaps that's why he appears less exciting. He's not flashy, but his bbIQ and confidence is high. While he's average-ish athletically, he has great size and agility to make good on what he has.
My favorite comp is a hybrid of Hayward and Ginobili.
You may watch these and then flip over to some college highlights, like Ayton's - it'll give you a good picture of just how much bigger and stronger Doncic's competition has been.
All that said, I have mixed feelings about how his career is going to pan out. First, any one that goes to SAC (#2) is at a disadvantage. Second, he's the type of player that will excel around other great players. Like Ginobili and Hayward, his skills (IQ, playmaking, etc) can make every one else on the court better; at the same time, if he's surrounded by poor/unmotivated players, many of those contributions could be lost.
That's why he should stay another year, let Boston get the #2 pick from Sacramento and then trade up to #1 and come here! Simple as that ;D
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My new favorite draft binkies in order are:
Elie Okobo
Donte DiVincenvo
Khyri Thomas
Jerome Robinson
Moritz Wagner
I think Okobo could be the most NBA ready rookie coming into the league next season and could replace Rozier's minutes if we trade him. Plus he would give Yabu someone to speak French with ;D
Prefect scenario would be to get Okobo at #27 and then buy or trade for a pick in the second for Wagner or Robinson.
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Huh?
My lucky draft mustache. It got us Tatum last year! ;D
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Lol, TP ;D.
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Anyone have any hot takes on Dzanan Musa? He looks like Steph Curry in these highlight videos.
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Anyone have any hot takes on Dzanan Musa? He looks like Steph Curry in these highlight videos.
CBS sports has us taking him at 27. His numbers are pretty good (10 points in 20mpg, good shooter). I don't know much about him, but he looks like he knows how to score. Could be a good find
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Anyone have any hot takes on Dzanan Musa? He looks like Steph Curry in these highlight videos.
CBS sports has us taking him at 27. His numbers are pretty good (10 points in 20mpg, good shooter). I don't know much about him, but he looks like he knows how to score. Could be a good find
Musa would be fun to watch in Summer League.
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I wrote this some 2 weeks back:
I don't know if he will be available by the time we draft, but Dženan Musa (Jenn-an Moose-aa) fits the bill. Bosnian kid that played for a Croatian champion Cedevita, where he was coached by Jurij Zdovc, ex Slovenian PG that I respect. He is young (got to age 19 just less than 2 weeks back), fairly athletic, has range on his shot (not a fan of his release), has length, some playmaking ability, he seems talented. I went to see him in 4 games live this year and even though he didn't dominate in any of them, there were many flashes. His BBIQ and execution need some work, but he also tries different stuff as he has talent and ability. Definitely enough for a late 1st rounder. If by some chance, now ranked (18-20) he ends up being available.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dzanan-Musa-84736/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL_Ve6yt4zY
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I'm going to pick 2 binkies. Just to hedge my bets but chances are we don't draft either of them unless we move up slightly in the draft.
6'9 PF/C Robert Williams from Texas A&M. He reportedly has a 7'5 wingspan. He averaged 4 blocks per 40 minutes. He's what we call a rim protector. ;)
https://www.theringer.com/2018/3/22/17149150/robert-williams-texas-am-sweet-16
He is super athletic and I'm betting that he leapfrogs Yabusele into the big man rotation. I feel he could be better defensively than Theis because of his massive wingspan. Defensively, he only trails Mo Bamba and Jaren Jackson Jr in block percentage as a college bigman -- he is significantly better in that department than Wendell Carter Jr, Bagley, and Ayton.
6'3 PG Elie Okobo from France. He has a really nice 6'8 wingspan. He's a combo guard who has a wicked passing sense. Could become really good insurance from the future in case we lose Smart and/or Rozier.
https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2018/6/4/17411476/2018-nba-draft-elie-okobo-la-lakers
I don't buy it that the Lakers are drafting another PG after taking Ball at #2. Unless they trade Ball, there's no reason to draft Okobo.
This article is a great read about wingspan differential (WD) and how it relates to our current Celtics.
http://www.celticslife.com/2017/10/do-elite-wingspans-and-athleticism.html
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I'm going to plug a good youtube channel discussing the draft class: The Dime Drop
Been producing good content with a FreeDarko - Bill Simmons feel to it. Thank you!
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See this article from TheStepien comparing Wendell Carter to... big Al.
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/06/11/wendell-carter-quick-enough-todays-nba/
Understanding that we probably won't trade up to nab a big man, it's still interesting that Carter is someone who may be around when the Knicks pick ninth. Expensive, but maybe not ridiculously expensive. If the Knicks are desperate for a PG and Trae is gone, would they consider TR, the 27th pick, plus the Clippers or Memphis 1st rounder?
People see Carter as a strong, fluid athlete, very well coordinated, with skills under the basket and his jumpshot. Good character, good motor. But they wonder if his athleticism will really allow him to stand out. That ... sounds a lot like the reports we were reading about Jayson Tatum last year.
It probably still makes more sense to wait for next year - keep the picks and either bundle them to get as high in the draft as we can or roll them over for future picks. But I don't know what the Cs' internal scouting report says on Carter. If he really looks like future Al, why not?
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Mitchell Robinson. I'd love to see theC's take a flier.
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This is pretty interesting.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23771351/espn-draft-analytics-model-makes-nba-draft-projections
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edit: they did not identify Donovan Mitchell as a sleeper last year.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19681478/most-likely-all-stars-starters-role-players-top-2017-nba-draft
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Mitchell Robinson. I'd love to see theC's take a flier.
thats the guy..fascinating story.
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I'm a fan of *Zhaire Smith. He has a lot going for him:
-Outlier athleticism. How quickly he can get off the ground borders on surreal.
-He's tough -fights through screens, closes out hard, and plays with a high motor on both ends.
-Great feel for the game. Picks his spots well. Seems to be a good passer too.
-Quick first step off the dribble.
-Decent size at 6'5" with a 6'11" wingspan.
His handles are still questionable. And his shot is tough to predict-- he has a slow release, shot 40% from 3 on very few attempts, and 70% from the line. He reminds me of a young JR Smith (with an IQ). But he just turned 19, came out of nowhere this season as he performed well in a tough conference, and he seems like the type of guy you want on your team.
I'm good with the Celtics taking *Huerter at #27, too. Best case scenario, we have another long wing with elite 3 pt shooting, some off-dribble playmaking, some defensive versatility, and generally high IQ play on both ends.
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I'm a fan of Zhaire Smith. He has a lot going for him:
-Outlier athleticism. How quickly he can get off the ground borders on surreal.
-He's tough - fights through screens, closes out hard, and attacks with a high motor on both ends.
-Great feel for the game. Picks his spots well. Seems to be a good passer too.
-Quick first step off the dribble.
-Decent size at 6'5" with a 6'11" wingspan.
His handles are shaky. And his shot scares me -- very few 3pt attempts, and 70% from the field. He also reminds me of a young JR Smith (with an IQ). But he just turned 19, came out of nowhere this season as he performed well in a tough conference, and he seems like the type of guy you want on your team.
I feel like many people are starting to take note of him. So much so that he might launch into the mid-low lottery.
I’m a fan of his fellow Red Raider in Keenan Evans too
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See this article from TheStepien comparing Wendell Carter to... big Al.
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/06/11/wendell-carter-quick-enough-todays-nba/
Understanding that we probably won't trade up to nab a big man, it's still interesting that Carter is someone who may be around when the Knicks pick ninth. Expensive, but maybe not ridiculously expensive. If the Knicks are desperate for a PG and Trae is gone, would they consider TR, the 27th pick, plus the Clippers or Memphis 1st rounder?
People see Carter as a strong, fluid athlete, very well coordinated, with skills under the basket and his jumpshot. Good character, good motor. But they wonder if his athleticism will really allow him to stand out. That ... sounds a lot like the reports we were reading about Jayson Tatum last year.
It probably still makes more sense to wait for next year - keep the picks and either bundle them to get as high in the draft as we can or roll them over for future picks. But I don't know what the Cs' internal scouting report says on Carter. If he really looks like future Al, why not?
This, I’ve been drawing this comparison on other draft threads for weeks. Jackson Jr also looks great, but not like Al, his upside might be more of a Bosh clone with better rim protection, worse passing.
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Did any one notice the current Tier breakdown in TheStepien's mock? I'm not sure if they're using Ford's old descriptors, but this appears markedly different from other sites and common opinions:
Tier 1: Doncic
Tier 2: Jackson Jr., Young
Tier 3: Bagley, Ayton, Carter,
Tier 4: Bridges x2, Z. Smith, Bamba
Tier 5: Sexton, Huerter, Knox, Shai, Melton, Milton, etc.
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Did any one notice the current Tier breakdown in TheStepien's mock? I'm not sure if they're using Ford's old descriptors, but this appears markedly different from other sites and common opinions:
Tier 1: Doncic
Tier 2: Jackson Jr., Young
Tier 3: Bagley, Ayton, Carter,
Tier 4: Bridges x2, Z. Smith, Bamba
Tier 5: Sexton, Huerter, Knox, Shai, Melton, Milton, etc.
Tray Young tiers above Bagley, Ayton, Carter & Bamba is hilariously wrong
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Did any one notice the current Tier breakdown in TheStepien's mock? I'm not sure if they're using Ford's old descriptors, but this appears markedly different from other sites and common opinions:
Tier 1: Doncic
Tier 2: Jackson Jr., Young
Tier 3: Bagley, Ayton, Carter,
Tier 4: Bridges x2, Z. Smith, Bamba
Tier 5: Sexton, Huerter, Knox, Shai, Melton, Milton, etc.
Tray Young tiers above Bagley, Ayton, Carter & Bamba is hilariously wrong
And there was also no way Baker Mayfield was going ahead of the other QB's let alone #1.
He was a five star recruit, that averaged 27.4PPG/8.7APG and was leading a team that at one point hit #4 in the nation before the wheels fell off. His game will certainly transfer to the NBA.
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Did any one notice the current Tier breakdown in TheStepien's mock? I'm not sure if they're using Ford's old descriptors, but this appears markedly different from other sites and common opinions:
Tier 1: Doncic
Tier 2: Jackson Jr., Young
Tier 3: Bagley, Ayton, Carter,
Tier 4: Bridges x2, Z. Smith, Bamba
Tier 5: Sexton, Huerter, Knox, Shai, Melton, Milton, etc.
Tray Young tiers above Bagley, Ayton, Carter & Bamba is hilariously wrong
And there was also no way Baker Mayfield was going ahead of the other QB's let alone #1.
He was a five star recruit, that averaged 27.4PPG/8.7APG and was leading a team that at one point hit #4 in the nation before the wheels fell off. His game will certainly transfer to the NBA.
Except for the whole, y'know, no defence part of his game. He might be a good offensive player, but I think he'll be inefficient and will be absolutely exploited on the defensive end.
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Did any one notice the current Tier breakdown in TheStepien's mock? I'm not sure if they're using Ford's old descriptors, but this appears markedly different from other sites and common opinions:
Tier 1: Doncic
Tier 2: Jackson Jr., Young
Tier 3: Bagley, Ayton, Carter,
Tier 4: Bridges x2, Z. Smith, Bamba
Tier 5: Sexton, Huerter, Knox, Shai, Melton, Milton, etc.
Tray Young tiers above Bagley, Ayton, Carter & Bamba is hilariously wrong
And there was also no way Baker Mayfield was going ahead of the other QB's let alone #1.
He was a five star recruit, that averaged 27.4PPG/8.7APG and was leading a team that at one point hit #4 in the nation before the wheels fell off. His game will certainly transfer to the NBA.
Saying Trey Young is not one of the top 5 prospects in the draft is not the same thing as saying he won’t be an NBA player, or even a good one. But he’s a player you will always have to compensate for at one end of the court, guaranteed. With the other top players, they all have two-way potential, even if there is a question if they might reach that potential.
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I wrote this some 2 weeks back:
I don't know if he will be available by the time we draft, but Dženan Musa (Jenn-an Moose-aa) fits the bill. Bosnian kid that played for a Croatian champion Cedevita, where he was coached by Jurij Zdovc, ex Slovenian PG that I respect. He is young (got to age 19 just less than 2 weeks back), fairly athletic, has range on his shot (not a fan of his release), has length, some playmaking ability, he seems talented. I went to see him in 4 games live this year and even though he didn't dominate in any of them, there were many flashes. His BBIQ and execution need some work, but he also tries different stuff as he has talent and ability. Definitely enough for a late 1st rounder. If by some chance, now ranked (18-20) he ends up being available.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dzanan-Musa-84736/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL_Ve6yt4zY
Nice!
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guys i like where the c's would be picking carter, donte, allen and spellman
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I'm still learning about the draft. But two players I didn't know much about look impressive to me: Lonnie Walker and Kevin Huerter. I would take them in the top 10 of the draft. Who else likes these two guards?
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An interesting big board with a paragraph assessment of each player. Has Ayton at #6 and Sexton at #22 for example.
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/06/19/jackson-hoys-final-2018-big-board/
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I'm still learning about the draft. But two players I didn't know much about look impressive to me: Lonnie Walker and Kevin Huerter. I would take them in the top 10 of the draft. Who else likes these two guards?
In the top 10? No way
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New draft binkie is Tryggvi Hlinason and the old one is Bonga! I guess both these guys can be had in the late 2nd round or maybe just on camp invites after the draft. I would be surprised if nither of these guys got at least a 2nd round pick.
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New draft binkie is Tryggvi Hlinason and the old one is Bonga! I guess both these guys can be had in the late 2nd round or maybe just on camp invites after the draft. I would be surprised if nither of these guys got at least a 2nd round pick.
Yeah, Tryggvi is obviously on my list too. I just don’t want to have a binkie that requires a pick which we don’t own in order to select him. But at this point I’ve already convinced myself that we can buy pick #59 from Phoenix, so yeah, he’s my binkie too.
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New draft binkie is Tryggvi Hlinason and the old one is Bonga! I guess both these guys can be had in the late 2nd round or maybe just on camp invites after the draft. I would be surprised if nither of these guys got at least a 2nd round pick.
Yeah, Tryggvi is obviously on my list too. I just don’t want to have a binkie that requires a pick which we don’t own in order to select him. But at this point I’ve already convinced myself that we can buy pick #59 from Phoenix, so yeah, he’s my binkie too.
Teams with multiple 2nds : Phoenix, Dallas, Orlando, Brooklyn, Philly, Lakers, Denver, Atlanta has 3 1sts and a 2nd. A lot of picks will be changing hands tonight.