2023-2024 NCAAF Official Thread

[footey]

Penix is going to be a very interesting prospect. I could see him going as high as #10 in the draft... or as low as the early 2nd round (in the 30s). Not sure where he will go. The belief now is Daniels will definitely be a Top-10 pick but no one has any clue about Penix.

I'm pretty certain though that McCarthy is going in the 2nd round.

Penix should go higher than 10, especially if he has a similar performance in the championship game.

[Moranis]

ESPN has Penix with a grade of 88 which is the 30th best grade and 5th QB.  I'm sure that doesn't account for yesterday, but I'm also sure that wouldn't move the needle much. I think that is probably about correct. I saw him a fair amount at Indiana and I wasn't overly impressed. He is much healthier now and has obviosuly improved since then, but I would worry about reaching for Penix. 

[johnnygreen]

I've followed Penix most of this season, and have always been super impressed.  I think he is going to shine as the best NFL QB from this 2024 draft. Hope the Pats draft him, maybe trading back to around 7, as I doubt he lasts beyond that.  Pick up an extra 2nd round pick in the process, this draft is deep in wide receivers.

The first knock on him are the knee surgeries, but man he can still gallop when needed. He has such a good arm, and is very decisive.

The other knock on him being 24? To me, that is an asset, not a liability.  He is more mature, more ready to step in. You will have him under control for 5 years in a rookie contract during which he can contribute immediately.   This is the most confident I have felt making prediction on QB since I saw Joe Montana wipe out the Longhorns in the Super Bowl. Dude just has got "it".

His injury history and age are two major red flags. He seems more like a day two QB in the draft.

[celticsclay]

Penix is going to be a very interesting prospect. I could see him going as high as #10 in the draft... or as low as the early 2nd round (in the 30s). Not sure where he will go. The belief now is Daniels will definitely be a Top-10 pick but no one has any clue about Penix.

I'm pretty certain though that McCarthy is going in the 2nd round.

Penix should go higher than 10, especially if he has a similar performance in the championship game.

I don’t really think there is any chance he goes in top 10.

[Donoghus]

FWIW.  (He was at the Sugar Bowl last night)

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[Roy H.]

Penix is going to be a very interesting prospect. I could see him going as high as #10 in the draft... or as low as the early 2nd round (in the 30s). Not sure where he will go. The belief now is Daniels will definitely be a Top-10 pick but no one has any clue about Penix.

I'm pretty certain though that McCarthy is going in the 2nd round.

Penix should go higher than 10, especially if he has a similar performance in the championship game.

I don’t really think there is any chance he goes in top 10.

It's hard to say right now.  Boards change wildly between January and April.

But, what's not to like about Penix?  He's 6'3" with top-tier arm strength and accuracy.  He's won 21 games in a row.  He's got good pocket mobility.  I can't tell you about how he goes through his progressions, or how much he should be penalized for playing in a great offensive system, but he strikes me as a guy who would go top-20 in most drafts.  A QB-needy team reaching a bit in the top-10 or so wouldn't seem crazy to me.

I just look at some of the guys teams have reached on lately (Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, etc.), and I wonder if some GM out there is going to want the QB with the best back-to-back college seasons since Mahomes.

[Donoghus]

Penix is going to be a very interesting prospect. I could see him going as high as #10 in the draft... or as low as the early 2nd round (in the 30s). Not sure where he will go. The belief now is Daniels will definitely be a Top-10 pick but no one has any clue about Penix.

I'm pretty certain though that McCarthy is going in the 2nd round.

Penix should go higher than 10, especially if he has a similar performance in the championship game.

I don’t really think there is any chance he goes in top 10.

It's hard to say right now.  Boards change wildly between January and April.

But, what's not to like about Penix?  He's 6'3" with top-tier arm strength and accuracy.  He's won 21 games in a row.  He's got good pocket mobility.  I can't tell you about how he goes through his progressions, or how much he should be penalized for playing in a great offensive system, but he strikes me as a guy who would go top-20 in most drafts.  A QB-needy team reaching a bit in the top-10 or so wouldn't seem crazy to me.

I just look at some of the guys teams have reached on lately (Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, etc.), and I wonder if some GM out there is going to want the QB with the best back-to-back college seasons since Mahomes.

My two cents on Penix.

I think the things you are saying here are true.  However, these NFL scouts often seem to overthink themselves and get mesmerarized with "potential" & "ceiling".

I think the concern is that Penix is already at his ceiling or close to it given his age and experience.  Not to mention his injury history.  I think that will either scare off some teams or knock him down draft charts. 

I'm also guessing that there is concern that he is a great college QB benefiting from a very strong offensive line and and excellent receiving corps and that he might not get to be the beneficiary of ideal conditions and the next level and will struggle. 

Again, just guesses on my end.  That Washington team has been a joy to watch all season on the offensive side of the ball.  Fun team.

[Roy H.]

Penix is going to be a very interesting prospect. I could see him going as high as #10 in the draft... or as low as the early 2nd round (in the 30s). Not sure where he will go. The belief now is Daniels will definitely be a Top-10 pick but no one has any clue about Penix.

I'm pretty certain though that McCarthy is going in the 2nd round.

Penix should go higher than 10, especially if he has a similar performance in the championship game.

I don’t really think there is any chance he goes in top 10.

It's hard to say right now.  Boards change wildly between January and April.

But, what's not to like about Penix?  He's 6'3" with top-tier arm strength and accuracy.  He's won 21 games in a row.  He's got good pocket mobility.  I can't tell you about how he goes through his progressions, or how much he should be penalized for playing in a great offensive system, but he strikes me as a guy who would go top-20 in most drafts.  A QB-needy team reaching a bit in the top-10 or so wouldn't seem crazy to me.

I just look at some of the guys teams have reached on lately (Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, etc.), and I wonder if some GM out there is going to want the QB with the best back-to-back college seasons since Mahomes.

My two cents on Penix.

I think the things you are saying here are true.  However, these NFL scouts often seem to overthink themselves and get mesmerarized with "potential" & "ceiling".

I think the concern is that Penix is already at his ceiling or close to it given his age and experience.  Not to mention his injury history.  I think that will either scare off some teams or knock him down draft charts. 

I'm also guessing that there is concern that he is a great college QB benefiting from a very strong offensive line and and excellent receiving corps and that he might not get to be the beneficiary of ideal conditions and the next level and will struggle. 

Again, just guesses on my end.  That Washington team has been a joy to watch all season on the offensive side of the ball.  Fun team.

Ideally I'd love to see the guy land with the Dolphins as a backup until they eventually get Tua killed.  Left-handed, big arm, is fairly plug-and-play as far as rookie QBs go.  It's far from Miami's biggest need, but I think it would be a good landing spot for him.

[Moranis]

Penix is going to be a very interesting prospect. I could see him going as high as #10 in the draft... or as low as the early 2nd round (in the 30s). Not sure where he will go. The belief now is Daniels will definitely be a Top-10 pick but no one has any clue about Penix.

I'm pretty certain though that McCarthy is going in the 2nd round.

Penix should go higher than 10, especially if he has a similar performance in the championship game.

I don’t really think there is any chance he goes in top 10.

It's hard to say right now.  Boards change wildly between January and April.

But, what's not to like about Penix?  He's 6'3" with top-tier arm strength and accuracy.  He's won 21 games in a row.  He's got good pocket mobility.  I can't tell you about how he goes through his progressions, or how much he should be penalized for playing in a great offensive system, but he strikes me as a guy who would go top-20 in most drafts.  A QB-needy team reaching a bit in the top-10 or so wouldn't seem crazy to me.

I just look at some of the guys teams have reached on lately (Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, etc.), and I wonder if some GM out there is going to want the QB with the best back-to-back college seasons since Mahomes.

My two cents on Penix.

I think the things you are saying here are true.  However, these NFL scouts often seem to overthink themselves and get mesmerarized with "potential" & "ceiling".

I think the concern is that Penix is already at his ceiling or close to it given his age and experience.  Not to mention his injury history.  I think that will either scare off some teams or knock him down draft charts. 

I'm also guessing that there is concern that he is a great college QB benefiting from a very strong offensive line and and excellent receiving corps and that he might not get to be the beneficiary of ideal conditions and the next level and will struggle. 

Again, just guesses on my end.  That Washington team has been a joy to watch all season on the offensive side of the ball.  Fun team.

Ideally I'd love to see the guy land with the Dolphins as a backup until they eventually get Tua killed.  Left-handed, big arm, is fairly plug-and-play as far as rookie QBs go.  It's far from Miami's biggest need, but I think it would be a good landing spot for him.

I wouldn't mind him backing up Lamar if he is still there at end of 1st round (though Ravens would probably be better off trading the pick to someone that wants him).

[Moranis]

Washington can't stop the run. If that doesn't change soon, the route will be on.

[Phantom255x]

Forgot to post my prediction earlier so yeah it'll look like I'm cheating. I had Michigan > Washington 34-27

I love Penix & Washington but Washington's defense is way worse than Michigan's and Michigan will do just enough to stop them. Texas' defense wasn't that strong compared to Michigan

And so far, Michigan up 14-3 in the 1st already

[Moranis]

I actually thought Michigan would win by at least 2 scores. Best team all year and significantly better than UW

[Roy H.]

I thought Michigan would win, but I didn't think they'd dominate like this early.

[Moranis]

Hey, they kept them out of the end zone.  Progress.

[Phantom255x]

Wow that was an awful miss from Penix. Blown coverage, wide open