Poll: Re-Draft Marcus or Julius

[gouki88]

Randle is like BiG Al Jefferson ,  he ll make too much money and always be on a 3-6 seed team . He is good player that will help take a team to the playoffs but not to finals .

Marcus is asset player to go along with the Tatum and Brown level players . He needs to remember what he does best , he’s their defensive and play maker dude.  Way down the scorer option .

Randle is a Hornets or Pacers type player , get you to playoffs but not much further,  he makes to much and must have the ball to much to get better max contract guys .

Smart was the better choice , while your looking for Tatum to come along .  Randle is not a player to build around IMO . He isn’t Embiid.

 But Randle as the third option on a championship team? You don't think that would work Shaq? He doesn’t need to be the man, just play his role.

 And the Celtics could really use a reliable #3 option. Randle can also pass very well, and he shoots threes better than marcus

No, he does not have the mentality to do so. His ego is too big

That's my thought.  If we drafted Randle, the team would look completely different.  Either Randle would be gone, or JB would be.

 Randle might even be the #2 option of Tatum, Randle, Brown. Jaylen really became passive with Irving and Hayward on the team.

 Jaylen is crazy to think he should be a #1 somewhere. He might not be good enough to be a #2 on a title team. Let's see if Tatum can carry him.

What on earth are you on about? Brown scores more at a better efficiency as the #2 option than Randle does as the #1 option on an inferior team.

 Espn trade machine gives us plus 8 wins if we traded Smart and Grant for Julius.  Espn Algorithmen on the money here.

And? I voted for Randle in the poll.

You've gone off on this tangent about Randle being a better #2 option than Brown. What has your response got to do with that?

[KG Living Legend]

Randle is like BiG Al Jefferson ,  he ll make too much money and always be on a 3-6 seed team . He is good player that will help take a team to the playoffs but not to finals .

Marcus is asset player to go along with the Tatum and Brown level players . He needs to remember what he does best , he’s their defensive and play maker dude.  Way down the scorer option .

Randle is a Hornets or Pacers type player , get you to playoffs but not much further,  he makes to much and must have the ball to much to get better max contract guys .

Smart was the better choice , while your looking for Tatum to come along .  Randle is not a player to build around IMO . He isn’t Embiid.

 But Randle as the third option on a championship team? You don't think that would work Shaq? He doesn’t need to be the man, just play his role.

 And the Celtics could really use a reliable #3 option. Randle can also pass very well, and he shoots threes better than marcus

No, he does not have the mentality to do so. His ego is too big

That's my thought.  If we drafted Randle, the team would look completely different.  Either Randle would be gone, or JB would be.

 Randle might even be the #2 option of Tatum, Randle, Brown. Jaylen really became passive with Irving and Hayward on the team.

 Jaylen is crazy to think he should be a #1 somewhere. He might not be good enough to be a #2 on a title team. Let's see if Tatum can carry him.

What on earth are you on about? Brown scores more at a better efficiency as the #2 option than Randle does as the #1 option on an inferior team.

 Espn trade machine gives us plus 8 wins if we traded Smart and Grant for Julius.  Espn Algorithmen on the money here.

And? I voted for Randle in the poll.

You've gone off on this tangent about Randle being a better #2 option than Brown. What has your response got to do with that?

 Jaken would submit, to the more Alpha Julius.

[gouki88]

Randle is like BiG Al Jefferson ,  he ll make too much money and always be on a 3-6 seed team . He is good player that will help take a team to the playoffs but not to finals .

Marcus is asset player to go along with the Tatum and Brown level players . He needs to remember what he does best , he’s their defensive and play maker dude.  Way down the scorer option .

Randle is a Hornets or Pacers type player , get you to playoffs but not much further,  he makes to much and must have the ball to much to get better max contract guys .

Smart was the better choice , while your looking for Tatum to come along .  Randle is not a player to build around IMO . He isn’t Embiid.

 But Randle as the third option on a championship team? You don't think that would work Shaq? He doesn’t need to be the man, just play his role.

 And the Celtics could really use a reliable #3 option. Randle can also pass very well, and he shoots threes better than marcus

No, he does not have the mentality to do so. His ego is too big

That's my thought.  If we drafted Randle, the team would look completely different.  Either Randle would be gone, or JB would be.

 Randle might even be the #2 option of Tatum, Randle, Brown. Jaylen really became passive with Irving and Hayward on the team.

 Jaylen is crazy to think he should be a #1 somewhere. He might not be good enough to be a #2 on a title team. Let's see if Tatum can carry him.

What on earth are you on about? Brown scores more at a better efficiency as the #2 option than Randle does as the #1 option on an inferior team.

 Espn trade machine gives us plus 8 wins if we traded Smart and Grant for Julius.  Espn Algorithmen on the money here.

And? I voted for Randle in the poll.

You've gone off on this tangent about Randle being a better #2 option than Brown. What has your response got to do with that?

 Jaken would submit, to the more Alpha Julius.

Just stop

[Kernewek]

Randle is like BiG Al Jefferson ,  he ll make too much money and always be on a 3-6 seed team . He is good player that will help take a team to the playoffs but not to finals .

Marcus is asset player to go along with the Tatum and Brown level players . He needs to remember what he does best , he’s their defensive and play maker dude.  Way down the scorer option .

Randle is a Hornets or Pacers type player , get you to playoffs but not much further,  he makes to much and must have the ball to much to get better max contract guys .

Smart was the better choice , while your looking for Tatum to come along .  Randle is not a player to build around IMO . He isn’t Embiid.

 But Randle as the third option on a championship team? You don't think that would work Shaq? He doesn’t need to be the man, just play his role.

 And the Celtics could really use a reliable #3 option. Randle can also pass very well, and he shoots threes better than marcus

No, he does not have the mentality to do so. His ego is too big

That's my thought.  If we drafted Randle, the team would look completely different.  Either Randle would be gone, or JB would be.

 Randle might even be the #2 option of Tatum, Randle, Brown. Jaylen really became passive with Irving and Hayward on the team.

 Jaylen is crazy to think he should be a #1 somewhere. He might not be good enough to be a #2 on a title team. Let's see if Tatum can carry him.

What on earth are you on about? Brown scores more at a better efficiency as the #2 option than Randle does as the #1 option on an inferior team.

 Espn trade machine gives us plus 8 wins if we traded Smart and Grant for Julius.  Espn Algorithmen on the money here.

The ESPN trade machine also gives us plus 8 wins if we trade Timelord, Gallinari, and Grant for Randle. Take that for what it's worth.

[boscel33]

Welp, this was a no brainer for me, Randle was the guy!  I said it back then and continue to say it.  The Smart pick was not a smart pick!

BTW, here are the career stats:

https://stathead.com/tiny/NiK2j

[Moranis]

Randle is like BiG Al Jefferson ,  he ll make too much money and always be on a 3-6 seed team . He is good player that will help take a team to the playoffs but not to finals .

Marcus is asset player to go along with the Tatum and Brown level players . He needs to remember what he does best , he’s their defensive and play maker dude.  Way down the scorer option .

Randle is a Hornets or Pacers type player , get you to playoffs but not much further,  he makes to much and must have the ball to much to get better max contract guys .

Smart was the better choice , while your looking for Tatum to come along .  Randle is not a player to build around IMO . He isn’t Embiid.

 But Randle as the third option on a championship team? You don't think that would work Shaq? He doesn’t need to be the man, just play his role.

 And the Celtics could really use a reliable #3 option. Randle can also pass very well, and he shoots threes better than marcus

No, he does not have the mentality to do so. His ego is too big

That's my thought.  If we drafted Randle, the team would look completely different.  Either Randle would be gone, or JB would be.

 Randle might even be the #2 option of Tatum, Randle, Brown. Jaylen really became passive with Irving and Hayward on the team.

 Jaylen is crazy to think he should be a #1 somewhere. He might not be good enough to be a #2 on a title team. Let's see if Tatum can carry him.

What on earth are you on about? Brown scores more at a better efficiency as the #2 option than Randle does as the #1 option on an inferior team.

 Espn trade machine gives us plus 8 wins if we traded Smart and Grant for Julius.  Espn Algorithmen on the money here.

The ESPN trade machine also gives us plus 8 wins if we trade Timelord, Gallinari, and Grant for Randle. Take that for what it's worth.

well Gallo hasn't play, Rob has barely played, and Grant hasn't been good, so I might actually buy that. 

[Kernewek]

Randle is like BiG Al Jefferson ,  he ll make too much money and always be on a 3-6 seed team . He is good player that will help take a team to the playoffs but not to finals .

Marcus is asset player to go along with the Tatum and Brown level players . He needs to remember what he does best , he’s their defensive and play maker dude.  Way down the scorer option .

Randle is a Hornets or Pacers type player , get you to playoffs but not much further,  he makes to much and must have the ball to much to get better max contract guys .

Smart was the better choice , while your looking for Tatum to come along .  Randle is not a player to build around IMO . He isn’t Embiid.

 But Randle as the third option on a championship team? You don't think that would work Shaq? He doesn’t need to be the man, just play his role.

 And the Celtics could really use a reliable #3 option. Randle can also pass very well, and he shoots threes better than marcus

No, he does not have the mentality to do so. His ego is too big

That's my thought.  If we drafted Randle, the team would look completely different.  Either Randle would be gone, or JB would be.

 Randle might even be the #2 option of Tatum, Randle, Brown. Jaylen really became passive with Irving and Hayward on the team.

 Jaylen is crazy to think he should be a #1 somewhere. He might not be good enough to be a #2 on a title team. Let's see if Tatum can carry him.

What on earth are you on about? Brown scores more at a better efficiency as the #2 option than Randle does as the #1 option on an inferior team.

 Espn trade machine gives us plus 8 wins if we traded Smart and Grant for Julius.  Espn Algorithmen on the money here.

The ESPN trade machine also gives us plus 8 wins if we trade Timelord, Gallinari, and Grant for Randle. Take that for what it's worth.

well Gallo hasn't play, Rob has barely played, and Grant hasn't been good, so I might actually buy that.

Yeah the point would be that -Grant +Randle seems to be the primary motivator for the ESPN trade machine.

[Moranis]

Randle is like BiG Al Jefferson ,  he ll make too much money and always be on a 3-6 seed team . He is good player that will help take a team to the playoffs but not to finals .

Marcus is asset player to go along with the Tatum and Brown level players . He needs to remember what he does best , he’s their defensive and play maker dude.  Way down the scorer option .

Randle is a Hornets or Pacers type player , get you to playoffs but not much further,  he makes to much and must have the ball to much to get better max contract guys .

Smart was the better choice , while your looking for Tatum to come along .  Randle is not a player to build around IMO . He isn’t Embiid.

 But Randle as the third option on a championship team? You don't think that would work Shaq? He doesn’t need to be the man, just play his role.

 And the Celtics could really use a reliable #3 option. Randle can also pass very well, and he shoots threes better than marcus

No, he does not have the mentality to do so. His ego is too big

That's my thought.  If we drafted Randle, the team would look completely different.  Either Randle would be gone, or JB would be.

 Randle might even be the #2 option of Tatum, Randle, Brown. Jaylen really became passive with Irving and Hayward on the team.

 Jaylen is crazy to think he should be a #1 somewhere. He might not be good enough to be a #2 on a title team. Let's see if Tatum can carry him.

What on earth are you on about? Brown scores more at a better efficiency as the #2 option than Randle does as the #1 option on an inferior team.

 Espn trade machine gives us plus 8 wins if we traded Smart and Grant for Julius.  Espn Algorithmen on the money here.

The ESPN trade machine also gives us plus 8 wins if we trade Timelord, Gallinari, and Grant for Randle. Take that for what it's worth.

well Gallo hasn't play, Rob has barely played, and Grant hasn't been good, so I might actually buy that.

Yeah the point would be that -Grant +Randle seems to be the primary motivator for the ESPN trade machine.

it is based mostly on PER and their little number that they have.  Randle does well in that because he is fairly efficient and fills up the stat sheet.  White + Grant for Randle adds only 4 wins to the C's, but does take 7 losses from the Knicks. 

[celticsclay]

Randle is like BiG Al Jefferson ,  he ll make too much money and always be on a 3-6 seed team . He is good player that will help take a team to the playoffs but not to finals .

Marcus is asset player to go along with the Tatum and Brown level players . He needs to remember what he does best , he’s their defensive and play maker dude.  Way down the scorer option .

Randle is a Hornets or Pacers type player , get you to playoffs but not much further,  he makes to much and must have the ball to much to get better max contract guys .

Smart was the better choice , while your looking for Tatum to come along .  Randle is not a player to build around IMO . He isn’t Embiid.

 But Randle as the third option on a championship team? You don't think that would work Shaq? He doesn’t need to be the man, just play his role.

 And the Celtics could really use a reliable #3 option. Randle can also pass very well, and he shoots threes better than marcus

No, he does not have the mentality to do so. His ego is too big

That's my thought.  If we drafted Randle, the team would look completely different.  Either Randle would be gone, or JB would be.

 Randle might even be the #2 option of Tatum, Randle, Brown. Jaylen really became passive with Irving and Hayward on the team.

 Jaylen is crazy to think he should be a #1 somewhere. He might not be good enough to be a #2 on a title team. Let's see if Tatum can carry him.

What on earth are you on about? Brown scores more at a better efficiency as the #2 option than Randle does as the #1 option on an inferior team.

 Espn trade machine gives us plus 8 wins if we traded Smart and Grant for Julius.  Espn Algorithmen on the money here.

This has nothing to do with what I wrote. Can you admit your statement was a bit ridiculous? It doesn’t make randle better or worse but you can’t say a guy can’t be a number 2 on a championship team when it just about happened last year and our star played bad. You can like randle without making up nonsense about brown.

[KG Living Legend]

 Ball is in Tatums hands the most, best pkayer.  Randle gets second highest usage, much better passer than Brown. Third option is JB and he is told when you touch the ball you score.

[celticsclay]

 Ball is in Tatums hands the most, best pkayer.  Randle gets second highest usage, much better passer than Brown. Third option is JB and he is told when you touch the ball you score.

At this point You should just change the thread title to why I like randle more than smart and be done with it.

[gouki88]

 Ball is in Tatums hands the most, best pkayer.  Randle gets second highest usage, much better passer than Brown. Third option is JB and he is told when you touch the ball you score.

Is this thread about Smart vs Randle or Brown vs Randle? Two totally different arguments.

Because Chris Paul is a better passer than Devin Booker, will he be #2 in Phoenix? Dumb line of reasoning

[KG Living Legend]

 Ball is in Tatums hands the most, best pkayer.  Randle gets second highest usage, much better passer than Brown. Third option is JB and he is told when you touch the ball you score.

Is this thread about Smart vs Randle or Brown vs Randle? Two totally different arguments.

Because Chris Paul is a better passer than Devin Booker, will he be #2 in Phoenix? Dumb line of reasoning

 Just messing with Clay. I know Brown is better than JR

[NHHillbilly]

I voted for Smart over Randle.
I did this because the Celtics want championships: and for a championship team, you need the best, and you need people playing roles. I prefer even the old Al Horford over Randle for our Big who can spread the floor. There are enough power forwards better than Randle that I don't think you have a champion with him as one of your main players. Smart's defense is special and he gives the team something that is championship quality.

[Big333223]

I think Smart's skillset is a lot rarer than Randle's.