Tony Parker: Rondo is the most overrated PG in the NBA

[BudweiserCeltic]

Don't forget David Robinson in his early years. And I'm pretty sure he's played quite a bit with some Finley guy.

[coco]

I don't agree with TP but there is a point to make; Playing next to KG/PP/RA is what makes so hard putting a number on Rondo's contract.  Rondo is good, but is he deserving "face of the franchise" money come contract time?  It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

The question is, Who is willing to over pay Rondo and take him away from us?


...I see a great subject for Justin Pullin here....

[crownsy]

TP cor, that was a great line. Don't talk to me about a guy having "so much help, he's overrated" when you play with one of the greatest big men of all time in tim freaking duncan and have a guy like manu on the wing.

Please tony 

[hankfinkel]

Parker also never has been all that great a distributor for a guy who has had plenty of talent around him.  Before this season, he's maxed out at 6apg, while Rondo is already up at 8apg this year. Parker is much closer to a 2-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio guy where Rondo is now a 3-to-1 ratio guy. Parker has been a better foul shooter than Rondo, but by no means very good for a point, been up and down and for his career at 72%.   Rondo is a better defender (although he needs to stop gambling with that swipe as much) and rebounder than Parker, which does not have as much to do with the big three, at least no more than Parker's defense has to do with having Duncan back there.  Parker is a better outside shooter than Rondo sure, but again is not great there either.  He used to shoot three fairly regularly in his first 3 years, hit a poor rate in general and in the last 4 years has stopped taking them.

Parker is more of a scoring point guard who has benefited by the attention given to teammates in this regard.  I think he has been the definition of overrated.  To put himself ahead of Deron Williams?  Well, that's just silly.

[ssspence]

bet rondo wishes everyone would say that about him. let's see who wins the next match-up of the two...

[nickagneta]

TP for the article cordobes and when I can another for the line about having great players to make him look better. Great line.

Tony must discount the fact that Rondo is the second best rebounding PG in the league after J Kidd, gets more assists than Tony, has a higher assist to turnover ratio than Tony, is 4th in the league in steals, and also gives the Celtics All NBA Defensive Team quality defense. Tony must also be discounting the fact that when he was the exact same age as Rajon the only statistic he had better than Rondo was PPG. His FT% that year was .650 almost the exact same percentage as Rondo's.

Really dumb thing to say about a guy you might have to play a seven game series against head to head.

March 17th, 2008  BOS @ SAS

Rondo  29 MIN, 9-18 FG, 20 PTS, 6 REB, 3 AST, 3 STL, 2 TO
Parker 37 MIN, 7-14 FG, 17 PTS, 5 REB, 8 AST, 2 STL, 1 TO


March 17th, 2007  BOS @ SAS

Rondo  34 MIN, 1-6 FG,   2 PTS, 14 REB, 6 AST, 1 STL, 1 TO
Parker 39 MIN, 8-14 FG, 30 PTS,  4 REB, 4 AST, 3 STL, 2 TO


January 22nd, 2007 SAS @ BOS

Rondo  32 MIN, 1-8 FG,  4 PTS, 4 REB, 7 AST, 3 STL, 3 TO
Parker 35 MIN, 6-9 FG, 15 PTS, 1 REB, 5 AST, 1 STL, 5 TO

Parker bested Rondo in Rondo's rookie year down in SA in a one on one encounter but I can't really say that in their head to head Tony has shown that he is all that much better than Rondo. Let's remember, in those 2007 games Parker had some guys to pass to and Rondo only had Pierce. LOL.

Edit: In that Jan 22nd 2007 game, Rondo didn't even have Pierce to pass to.

[Donoghus]

Feb. 8th....Feb. 8th.

[TatteredOnMySleeve]

I officially have 0 respect for Tony Parker
Hey idiot, you've got to be the most overrated PG in the league, and guess what YOU PLAY WITH TIM DUNCAN and MANU GINOBLI, Yeah Im sure anyone would know who you were if you didnt, and im sure you'd have a finals MVP! HAHAH! and you are just a scoring PG...bum

I hope rondo hears about this and absolutely destroys him...what a joke

..the bright side of the story is that there are actual PGs with a brain out there...Steve Nash has credited rondo and I read an interview this year where Deron Williams called rondo the best PG in the east

Overrated PGS dont put up the stats rondo did in the closeout game of the finals, and the first to have 16 assists in the finals since magic

and again...he knows he plays with TIM DUNCAN doesnt he?

[shiggins]

TP for the article cordobes and when I can another for the line about having great players to make him look better. Great line.

Tony must discount the fact that Rondo is the second best rebounding PG in the league after J Kidd, gets more assists than Tony, has a higher assist to turnover ratio than Tony, is 4th in the league in steals, and also gives the Celtics All NBA Defensive Team quality defense. Tony must also be discounting the fact that when he was the exact same age as Rajon the only statistic he had better than Rondo was PPG. His FT% that year was .650 almost the exact same percentage as Rondo's.

Really dumb thing to say about a guy you might have to play a seven game series against head to head.

March 17th, 2008  BOS @ SAS

Rondo  29 MIN, 9-18 FG, 20 PTS, 6 REB, 3 AST, 3 STL, 2 TO
Parker 37 MIN, 7-14 FG, 17 PTS, 5 REB, 8 AST, 2 STL, 1 TO


March 17th, 2007  BOS @ SAS

Rondo  34 MIN, 1-6 FG,   2 PTS, 14 REB, 6 AST, 1 STL, 1 TO
Parker 39 MIN, 8-14 FG, 30 PTS,  4 REB, 4 AST, 3 STL, 2 TO


January 22nd, 2007 SAS @ BOS

Rondo  32 MIN, 1-8 FG,  4 PTS, 4 REB, 7 AST, 3 STL, 3 TO
Parker 35 MIN, 6-9 FG, 15 PTS, 1 REB, 5 AST, 1 STL, 5 TO

Parker bested Rondo in Rondo's rookie year down in SA in a one on one encounter but I can't really say that in their head to head Tony has shown that he is all that much better than Rondo. Let's remember, in those 2007 games Parker had some guys to pass to and Rondo only had Pierce. LOL.

Edit: In that Jan 22nd 2007 game, Rondo didn't even have Pierce to pass to.

How do those numbers really back the case up at all?  It looks like Tony pretty much handled Rondo...

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

TP's Top 5
1 Chris Paul
2 Tony Parker
3 Deron Williams
4 Steve Nash
5 Chauncey Billups

Give me a break... Tony you wish you were better then Deron Williams. Parker's starting five vs. Williams's?? No contest.

Also, after the undressing Rondo alone put on Steve Nash Monday that Parker clearly didn't see, it just justifies what we've all known since World War II...

The French don't value defense.

[nickagneta]

TP for the article cordobes and when I can another for the line about having great players to make him look better. Great line.

Tony must discount the fact that Rondo is the second best rebounding PG in the league after J Kidd, gets more assists than Tony, has a higher assist to turnover ratio than Tony, is 4th in the league in steals, and also gives the Celtics All NBA Defensive Team quality defense. Tony must also be discounting the fact that when he was the exact same age as Rajon the only statistic he had better than Rondo was PPG. His FT% that year was .650 almost the exact same percentage as Rondo's.

Really dumb thing to say about a guy you might have to play a seven game series against head to head.

March 17th, 2008  BOS @ SAS

Rondo  29 MIN, 9-18 FG, 20 PTS, 6 REB, 3 AST, 3 STL, 2 TO
Parker 37 MIN, 7-14 FG, 17 PTS, 5 REB, 8 AST, 2 STL, 1 TO


March 17th, 2007  BOS @ SAS

Rondo  34 MIN, 1-6 FG,   2 PTS, 14 REB, 6 AST, 1 STL, 1 TO
Parker 39 MIN, 8-14 FG, 30 PTS,  4 REB, 4 AST, 3 STL, 2 TO


January 22nd, 2007 SAS @ BOS

Rondo  32 MIN, 1-8 FG,  4 PTS, 4 REB, 7 AST, 3 STL, 3 TO
Parker 35 MIN, 6-9 FG, 15 PTS, 1 REB, 5 AST, 1 STL, 5 TO

Parker bested Rondo in Rondo's rookie year down in SA in a one on one encounter but I can't really say that in their head to head Tony has shown that he is all that much better than Rondo. Let's remember, in those 2007 games Parker had some guys to pass to and Rondo only had Pierce. LOL.

Edit: In that Jan 22nd 2007 game, Rondo didn't even have Pierce to pass to.

How do those numbers really back the case up at all?  It looks like Tony pretty much handled Rondo...

You must only be looking at points scored then because in just about every other stat in all three games Rondo was as good or better. Yeah that March 17 game in 2007 Parker scored at will on Rondo but in the other two games, I think it can be argued that the one on one matchup was a toss up. So, Parker, who professes to being the second best PG in the league can only outplay the most overrated PG in the league once out of three times. I don't think that looks to good.

[shiggins]

TP for the article cordobes and when I can another for the line about having great players to make him look better. Great line.

Tony must discount the fact that Rondo is the second best rebounding PG in the league after J Kidd, gets more assists than Tony, has a higher assist to turnover ratio than Tony, is 4th in the league in steals, and also gives the Celtics All NBA Defensive Team quality defense. Tony must also be discounting the fact that when he was the exact same age as Rajon the only statistic he had better than Rondo was PPG. His FT% that year was .650 almost the exact same percentage as Rondo's.

Really dumb thing to say about a guy you might have to play a seven game series against head to head.

March 17th, 2008  BOS @ SAS

Rondo  29 MIN, 9-18 FG, 20 PTS, 6 REB, 3 AST, 3 STL, 2 TO
Parker 37 MIN, 7-14 FG, 17 PTS, 5 REB, 8 AST, 2 STL, 1 TO


March 17th, 2007  BOS @ SAS

Rondo  34 MIN, 1-6 FG,   2 PTS, 14 REB, 6 AST, 1 STL, 1 TO
Parker 39 MIN, 8-14 FG, 30 PTS,  4 REB, 4 AST, 3 STL, 2 TO


January 22nd, 2007 SAS @ BOS

Rondo  32 MIN, 1-8 FG,  4 PTS, 4 REB, 7 AST, 3 STL, 3 TO
Parker 35 MIN, 6-9 FG, 15 PTS, 1 REB, 5 AST, 1 STL, 5 TO

Parker bested Rondo in Rondo's rookie year down in SA in a one on one encounter but I can't really say that in their head to head Tony has shown that he is all that much better than Rondo. Let's remember, in those 2007 games Parker had some guys to pass to and Rondo only had Pierce. LOL.

Edit: In that Jan 22nd 2007 game, Rondo didn't even have Pierce to pass to.

How do those numbers really back the case up at all?  It looks like Tony pretty much handled Rondo...

You must only be looking at points scored then because in just about every other stat in all three games Rondo was as good or better. Yeah that March 17 game in 2007 Parker scored at will on Rondo but in the other two games, I think it can be argued that the one on one matchup was a toss up. So, Parker, who professes to being the second best PG in the league can only outplay the most overrated PG in the league once out of three times. I don't think that looks to good.

Well scoring is part of the game.  1st game I would say is pretty much a wash.  2nd game, i dont see how you could argue rondo played anywhere near as well.  1-6 shooting is pretty bad, as well as allowing your man to drop 30 on you?  Rondo has the rebounds, but thats it.  It looks like he was thoroghly outplayed.  2nd game, rondo still shot 1-8 and allowed his man to shoot 66%.

Just because Rondo isnt as good a scorer as Tony Parker, doesnt mean you take it out of the equation.  Thats fairly ridiculous.  I mean Rondo scored 6 points in two games vs. Parker while giving up 45?  He shot 14% while Parker shot 61%?  Same amount of steals, assists arent that much off as are turnovers.  Hes got him in rebounds, but seriously, shooting 14% while letting your man shoot 61%?  I know like to say that scoring isnt as important when we are discussing Rondo's merits, but we cant ignore it.

Especially when Tony Parker is a scoring PG.  Thats his game, and to just dismiss it is fairly green glassed in my mind.  Parker is clearly a better pg than rondo and has had a much better career.  Only pg in the nba id rather have is Chris Paul. The rings dont lie, the finals MVP doesnt lie.  When Duncan retires, and Parker inherits the team, Parker will be up at 25-26 ppg. 

I dont agree with his comments, but hey i dont think there is any way you can objectively say that Rondo is better, or that Tony Parker didnt handle him in those games...

[housecall]

  First ive never heard anyone overrate Rondo...most of the time im hereing the opposite,usually underrating him(NBA.tv media especially).

[TatteredOnMySleeve]

TP's Top 5
1 Chris Paul
2 Tony Parker
3 Deron Williams
4 Steve Nash
5 Chauncey Billups

Give me a break... Tony you wish you were better then Deron Williams. Parker's starting five vs. Williams's?? No contest.

Also, after the undressing Rondo alone put on Steve Nash Monday that Parker clearly didn't see, it just justifies what we've all known since World War II...

The French don't value defense.

If thats his top 5, so be it, but let him know rondo has outplayed each and everyone of those guys and that he doesnt even belong on that list

[jdpapa3]

Sorry, but i have to agree with Tony's top 5. And it sounds like he was put on the spot with that overrated question.

Tony Parker put up 55, 10, and 7 in a game this year. That's absolutely ridiculous.