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Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #360 on: April 10, 2019, 12:35:17 PM »

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Is Boston at #22 even with an OKC win due to winning both games against them this year

Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #361 on: April 10, 2019, 12:40:53 PM »

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Is Boston at #22 even with an OKC win due to winning both games against them this year

I thought this until someone posted a few weeks ago about it
 
Looks like it comes down to all coin flips even for non lotto teams

https://www.nba.com/article/2018/04/13/ties-broken-order-selection-nba-draft-2018

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The results of the drawings:

Dallas (24-58) won a tiebreaker with Atlanta.
Chicago (27-55) won a tiebreaker with Sacramento.
Miami (44-38) won a tiebreaker with Milwaukee.
San Antonio (47-35) won a tiebreaker with Minnesota.
Oklahoma City (48-34) won a tiebreaker with Indiana, New Orleans and Utah. Second, third and fourth place in the tiebreaker drawings went to Utah, New Orleans and Indiana, respectively

Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #362 on: April 10, 2019, 02:03:28 PM »

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Is Boston at #22 even with an OKC win due to winning both games against them this year
I would think they'd have #22 with tie breakers but considering how many scenarios there were for all our picks, I really didn't want to invest more time in figuring out who'd win the tiebreakers.  that, and I thought that tiebreakers applied to playoffs rather than draft position --> thought that was determined by coin flip possibly.

Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #363 on: April 10, 2019, 02:35:01 PM »

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Is Boston at #22 even with an OKC win due to winning both games against them this year
I would think they'd have #22 with tie breakers but considering how many scenarios there were for all our picks, I really didn't want to invest more time in figuring out who'd win the tiebreakers.  that, and I thought that tiebreakers applied to playoffs rather than draft position --> thought that was determined by coin flip possibly.

Just saw online that Avery Bradley 2010 pick was the result of a coin flip between #19-22 picks (all 50-32 - BOS POR SAS OKC) which the C's won.

James Young pick was also from a #17-18 coin flip between Brooklyn and Washington (44-38).

I vaguely remember BOS losing the #4-#5 coin flip with the Jazz in 2014 and winning the #17-#18 coin flip that same day.




Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #364 on: April 11, 2019, 01:26:12 AM »

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All four picks (pre-lottery) will come down to tiebreakers  ;D

21-22
18-20
12-14
7-9

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« Reply #365 on: April 11, 2019, 02:32:41 AM »

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All four picks (pre-lottery) will come down to tiebreakers  ;D

21-22
18-20
12-14
7-9
Let’s hope for some pre-lotto lotto luck! Anybody know when the drawings for tiebreakers will take place?

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« Reply #366 on: April 11, 2019, 05:27:27 AM »

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All four picks (pre-lottery) will come down to tiebreakers  ;D

21-22
18-20
12-14
7-9
Let’s hope for some pre-lotto lotto luck! Anybody know when the drawings for tiebreakers will take place?
Do they divide the ping pong balls evenly among the tied teams after they solidify the draft order?

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« Reply #367 on: April 11, 2019, 06:30:38 AM »

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All four picks (pre-lottery) will come down to tiebreakers  ;D

21-22
18-20
12-14
7-9
Let’s hope for some pre-lotto lotto luck! Anybody know when the drawings for tiebreakers will take place?
Do they divide the ping pong balls evenly among the tied teams after they solidify the draft order?

Yes, unless the reulting division does not equate to an equal amount of balls. Then a coin flip determins who gets more

Ie: 3 teams tied. Total balls of the 3 spots equals 9...each team gets 3

Ie: 3 teams tied. Total balls of the 3 spots equals 10...then a coin flip will determine who gets 4 balls and what teams each get 3.

Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #368 on: April 11, 2019, 06:36:53 AM »

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Portland did us a solid and beat Sacramento for the 12th pick.

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« Reply #369 on: April 11, 2019, 07:15:37 AM »

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the suspense should end today sometime. coin tosses’ will be friday. actually they use ping pong balls.

https://sports.yahoo.com/celtics-fate-grizzlies-pick-friday-032638867.html

for the memphis pick, remember that it has a 26.2% chance to be 1-4 and not convey.

cross those fingers everyone.  ;D
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« Reply #370 on: April 11, 2019, 08:33:40 AM »

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Portland did us a solid and beat Sacramento for the 12th pick.

I can't believe SAC blew a 28 point 2nd half lead. The night couldn't have gone much worse for the Cs up to that point, but at least now we have something to hope for (a couple draft spots anyway).

Not sure what to think in regards to the MEM pick. I think would prefer it to push over to 2020 or 2021 just based on the sheer amount of picks we have, but I guess we'll have to wait and see on that one, too.

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« Reply #371 on: April 11, 2019, 09:04:18 AM »

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Portland did us a solid and beat Sacramento for the 12th pick.

No 13th

Sac won both games vs Heat in the regular season

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« Reply #372 on: April 11, 2019, 09:19:29 AM »

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Portland did us a solid and beat Sacramento for the 12th pick.

I can't believe SAC blew a 28 point 2nd half lead. The night couldn't have gone much worse for the Cs up to that point, but at least now we have something to hope for (a couple draft spots anyway).

Not sure what to think in regards to the MEM pick. I think would prefer it to push over to 2020 or 2021 just based on the sheer amount of picks we have, but I guess we'll have to wait and see on that one, too.

Wait what?!? Portland came back? WOW.

Lol I went to bed with the score 87-62 Kings at halftime. I already went to sleep thinking the Kings Pick would be #14.
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Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #373 on: April 11, 2019, 09:46:59 AM »

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update for this week

Standings as of 4/11/19   END OF SEASON

Well, this is awkward.  Every single pick is tied with at least one other team and 3 of them are in a 3-way tie.  Been looking for a conclusive answer as to how the ties for the draft order will be broken but not having any luck.   Closest I'm finding is how playoff seeding is determined but that's not the same thing -- particularly for those not in the playoffs. 

Showing the results in the order provided by ESPN since that's the site that shows the full league standings.  This may or may not reflect the application of tie-breakers --> cannot find that info on their site.

Memphis pick --  #7-9   (tied with Dallas and NO)  (protected top 8 ) 
                   Games Behind    Current Wins   Games Left   Last 10
Dallas                    ---                    33                     0               5-5    #7
New Orleans           ---                    33                     0               3-7    #8
Memphis               ---                    33                     0               4-6    #9

--> Memphis played well enough to pass Wash in the standings and stick with Dallas and NO for draft position.  of all the picks being tracked, this is the one where how they break the tie will have the biggest impact since, if no one jumps over them from the 10 spot and higher, it'll determine if the pick conveys this year or not.  I could be wrong but I think what will be happening is the 3 teams will get an equal number of balls for the lottery (with a coinflip involved if an odd number of balls needs to be assigned) and then tiebreakers are applied after the lottery to whomever's still tied.

Kings pick -- #12-14  (ticed with Miami and Charlotte) (protected if top 1 - becomes Sixer pick if #1)
                       Games Behind    Current Wins     Games Left    Last 10
Miami                       ---                      39                       0                 4-6       #12       
Sacramento             ---                     39                       0                 3-7      #13
Charlotte                   ---                     39                       0                 6-4      #14

-> Kings had that late season swoon to help out our pick.   Way too late for my liking.  Just to be thorough, should the Kings jump to #1 and we're stuck with the Philly pick instead, that pick is #24

Clipper Pick #18-20   --  (tied with Indiana and SAS) (protected  top 14) 
                      Games Behind    Current Wins     Games Left    Last 10
LA Clippers              ---                      48                      0               6-4       #18
San Antonio               ---                      48                      0               6-4       #19
Indiana                      ---                      48                      0               4-6       #20

--> Clips did well enough to make the playoffs to convey the pick this year even with the trade of their best player.  SAS got the tiebreaker for the playoffs so I'm hoping that will also apply to the draft slot.

Boston Pick --  #21-22 (tied with OKC)
                      Games Behind    Current Wins     Games Left    Last 10
OKC                          ---                     49                       0                7-3      #21
Boston                     ---                     49                       0                6-4       #22

--> C's were up and down all season but settled in this range.  So many teams clumped together between 48-51 wins.  A couple of wins against teams they should have beat or a couple of losses and the pick could have been anywhere from #24 to #18. 

Second Rounders:
Boston (protected 31-55)

Second rounders
Boston - #51-52 (depending on tie-breakers)
It's staying put

If this is the actual order of the picks, C's will get all 4 this season and keep their second rounder:
#9, #13, #18 #22, #51 (I believe that when teams are tie ion their first round picks, the order is reversed for the second rounders).
Not a bad haul at all for the C's if they keep them or a bad haul for NO if the Davis deal goes through as I anticipate
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Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #374 on: April 11, 2019, 09:54:49 AM »

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I go back and forth on whether I want Memphis pick to roll. Seems consensus is that it has more trade value if it does roll over.

And yet, if it doesn't, it will be our best pick (assuming no 2-4 jump on the Kings pick), and something very intriguing for us, or the Pelicans, could be available at pick 9.  Bol Bol or Cam Reddish for example. (ESPN latest mock this morning has Memphis taking Reddish with pick, and Lakers taking Bol at 11).