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All in Trade for Griffin?
« on: December 06, 2019, 02:33:14 PM »

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This is the crazy all in move if Danny thinks this team could challenge for the tittle this year. Seems like a risky move...


https://fadeawayworld.net/2019/12/06/nba-rumors-5-best-trade-packages-for-blake-griffin/
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2019, 02:34:52 PM »

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Brad Wanamaker makes Marcus Smart somewhat expendable and this move would move Tatum back to his natural position at the Small Forward position and Brown back to the Shooting guard position.

Oh really?
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2019, 02:36:53 PM »

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Quote from: Donoghus on December 06, 2019, 02:34:52 PM
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Brad Wanamaker makes Marcus Smart somewhat expendable and this move would move Tatum back to his natural position at the Small Forward position and Brown back to the Shooting guard position.

Oh really?

I'm not saying I agree with this trade idea, it's super risky, but it's an all in move. It's the kind of move The raptors made last year....
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2019, 02:37:25 PM »

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A potential Blake Griffin trade would be Gordon Hayward and Marcus Smart in exchange for Blake Griffin. With Hayward, his injury history makes him expendable. It may seem ironic to get rid of Hayward due to injuries and Blake is injury-prone himself but, Blake is a much better player than Hayward is. Brad Wanamaker makes Marcus Smart somewhat expendable and this move would move Tatum back to his natural position at the Small Forward position and Brown back to the Shooting guard position. These position changes could create potential mismatches for opponents and having Blake as a 4th-option is a blessing in itself.

How sway?

Also SF/PF are interchangeable at this point, but none of their points make any sense lol.

We would be better off keeping Hayward anyways....
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2019, 02:39:22 PM »

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Quote from: Monkhouse on December 06, 2019, 02:37:25 PM
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A potential Blake Griffin trade would be Gordon Hayward and Marcus Smart in exchange for Blake Griffin. With Hayward, his injury history makes him expendable. It may seem ironic to get rid of Hayward due to injuries and Blake is injury-prone himself but, Blake is a much better player than Hayward is. Brad Wanamaker makes Marcus Smart somewhat expendable and this move would move Tatum back to his natural position at the Small Forward position and Brown back to the Shooting guard position. These position changes could create potential mismatches for opponents and having Blake as a 4th-option is a blessing in itself.

How sway?

Also SF/PF are interchangeable at this point, but none of their points make any sense lol.

We would be better off keeping Hayward anyways....

I think Griffen can play center in a small quick lineup. He's 6'10" I believe....
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2019, 02:45:37 PM »

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Quote from: liam on December 06, 2019, 02:39:22 PM
Quote from: Monkhouse on December 06, 2019, 02:37:25 PM
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A potential Blake Griffin trade would be Gordon Hayward and Marcus Smart in exchange for Blake Griffin. With Hayward, his injury history makes him expendable. It may seem ironic to get rid of Hayward due to injuries and Blake is injury-prone himself but, Blake is a much better player than Hayward is. Brad Wanamaker makes Marcus Smart somewhat expendable and this move would move Tatum back to his natural position at the Small Forward position and Brown back to the Shooting guard position. These position changes could create potential mismatches for opponents and having Blake as a 4th-option is a blessing in itself.

How sway?

Also SF/PF are interchangeable at this point, but none of their points make any sense lol.

We would be better off keeping Hayward anyways....

I think Griffen can play center in a small quick lineup. He's 6'10" I believe....
He's 6' 9" and has short arms. He also doesn't really jump anymore.

He can certainly play C in offensive minded lineups but not something I'd want to do a lot of.
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2019, 02:45:50 PM »

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Quote from: liam on December 06, 2019, 02:39:22 PM
Quote from: Monkhouse on December 06, 2019, 02:37:25 PM
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A potential Blake Griffin trade would be Gordon Hayward and Marcus Smart in exchange for Blake Griffin. With Hayward, his injury history makes him expendable. It may seem ironic to get rid of Hayward due to injuries and Blake is injury-prone himself but, Blake is a much better player than Hayward is. Brad Wanamaker makes Marcus Smart somewhat expendable and this move would move Tatum back to his natural position at the Small Forward position and Brown back to the Shooting guard position. These position changes could create potential mismatches for opponents and having Blake as a 4th-option is a blessing in itself.

How sway?

Also SF/PF are interchangeable at this point, but none of their points make any sense lol.

We would be better off keeping Hayward anyways....

I think Griffen can play center in a small quick lineup. He's 6'10" I believe....

I'm not comfortable with any lineup that features Blake Griffin at the 5 lol. But maybe that's just me.
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2019, 02:46:38 PM »

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Hayward was better than Griffin before he got hurt. And he is probably less of an injury risk given his knee issues.
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2019, 02:46:58 PM »

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I wouldn't trade Hayward straight up for Griffin right now let alone throw in Smart.


I think Hayward unlocks the Celtics offensive potential so much more then Griffin and the loss in terms of defense losing both Smart and Hayward....




Seems like a trade that moves the Celtics needle the wrong way.
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2019, 02:48:37 PM »

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Quote from: Monkhouse on December 06, 2019, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: liam on December 06, 2019, 02:39:22 PM
Quote from: Monkhouse on December 06, 2019, 02:37:25 PM
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A potential Blake Griffin trade would be Gordon Hayward and Marcus Smart in exchange for Blake Griffin. With Hayward, his injury history makes him expendable. It may seem ironic to get rid of Hayward due to injuries and Blake is injury-prone himself but, Blake is a much better player than Hayward is. Brad Wanamaker makes Marcus Smart somewhat expendable and this move would move Tatum back to his natural position at the Small Forward position and Brown back to the Shooting guard position. These position changes could create potential mismatches for opponents and having Blake as a 4th-option is a blessing in itself.

How sway?

Also SF/PF are interchangeable at this point, but none of their points make any sense lol.

We would be better off keeping Hayward anyways....

I think Griffen can play center in a small quick lineup. He's 6'10" I believe....

I'm not comfortable with any lineup that features Blake Griffin at the 5 lol. But maybe that's just me.

Griffen is taller and bigger than Theis, as big as Kanter, taller than TIMELORD. Health is the major concern for me. I also really like this team the way it is. I think it's a move away for a championship. I'm glad I'm not the one who has to make that move....
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2019, 02:49:15 PM »

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Maybe I'm a homer, but the C's trade seems way out of whack to the other 4.

Phoenix Suns
Trade Package: Kelly Oubre Jr, Tyler Johnson, First-Round Pick For Blake Griffin

Charlotte Hornets
Trade Package: Dwyane Bacon, Marvin Williams, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Second-Round Pick For Blake Griffin

Dallas Mavericks
Trade Package: Tim Hardaway Jr., Courtney Lee, Jalen Brunson, Second-Round Pick For Blake Griffin

Portland Trail Blazers
Trade Package: Hassan Whiteside, Anfernee Simmons, First-Round Pick for Blake Griffin

Boston Celtics
Trade Package: Gordon Hayward, Marcus Smart For Blake Griffin


C's are giving up an All-Star caliber player and a 1st team All-D guy, and teams like Charlotte and Dallas just have to give up 3 bench players and a 2nd round pick?  Hey I get it's about making the salaries match and Griffin may be a negative asset, but c'mon now.

Surprised the author's not asking for the Memphis pick too.
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2019, 02:50:35 PM »

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Also Blake's main value is now the on the ball creator, I don't think he'd be a great fit in the drive and kick offense that the ball moves around in. At least not in a mid-season sort of move.

He's also a worse contract and playing worse right now than Hayward.
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2019, 02:51:05 PM »

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Quote from: bdm860 on December 06, 2019, 02:49:15 PM
Maybe I'm a homer, but the C's trade seems way out of whack to the other 4.

Phoenix Suns
Trade Package: Kelly Oubre Jr, Tyler Johnson, First-Round Pick For Blake Griffin

Charlotte Hornets
Trade Package: Dwyane Bacon, Marvin Williams, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Second-Round Pick For Blake Griffin

Dallas Mavericks
Trade Package: Tim Hardaway Jr., Courtney Lee, Jalen Brunson, Second-Round Pick For Blake Griffin

Portland Trail Blazers
Trade Package: Hassan Whiteside, Anfernee Simmons, First-Round Pick for Blake Griffin

Boston Celtics
Trade Package: Gordon Hayward, Marcus Smart For Blake Griffin


C's are giving up an All-Star caliber player and an 1st team All-D guy, and teams like Charlotte and Dallas just have to give up 3 bench players and a 2nd round pick?  Hey I get it's about making the salaries match and Griffin may be a negative asset, but c'mon now.

Surprised the author's not asking for the Memphis pick too.

You are right and it seems like a lot to give up for such and injury prone player but I believe it's because we don't have the salaries to make it work.
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Re: All in Trade for Griffin?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2019, 02:51:56 PM »

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Would you rather trade for Blake or Love ?
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2019, 02:53:24 PM »

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Quote from: liam on December 06, 2019, 02:51:56 PM
Would you rather trade for Blake or Love?


Love would do a better job spreading the floor but no way the Celtics give up the players with the salaries needed to get him.  It again would move the teams needle in the wrong direction.
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