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Brad Stevens is not an elite coach
« on: March 18, 2019, 10:00:04 PM »

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What a frustrating coach to see in action

Morris and Smart starting even though Brown should by now is unacceptable

Also Al Horford was exhausted with 3-4 min left. Just keeps relying on him like he is 25 years old

The ball also should be funneling through Tatum and Brown more and not only exclusively through Irving late in games

The offense is way too predictable (how to guard). It also congests everything close to Irving

Why he was much more successful in Cleveland? Because he had some room to work with

Re: Brad Stevens is not an elite coach
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2019, 10:02:36 PM »

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Right, Kyrie's success in Cleveland had nothing to do with playing beside the best player in the world.....


Brad has had an off year just like basically the entire team.

He still has a lot to prove but a disappointing season doesn't undo multiple seasons of overachievement.
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Re: Brad Stevens is not an elite coach
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2019, 10:05:55 PM »

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Right, Kyrie's success in Cleveland had nothing to do with playing beside the best player in the world.....


Brad has had an off year just like basically the entire team.

He still has a lot to prove but a disappointing season doesn't undo multiple seasons of overachievement.

So try to mimic it ...even at 65 percent

Give the ball to kyrie and get out the way will not lead to the ultimate success

He is not like a Durant or Kobe...where he is unstoppable even against double teams/against multiple bodies

Tatum and Brown helped this team make it far last season

Yet this season they get ZERO opportunity to be the guy with less than 3 min.

IF they did have the chance/excel. Other teams cant just sit on Irving to do everything

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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2019, 10:07:59 PM »

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Right, Kyrie's success in Cleveland had nothing to do with playing beside the best player in the world.....


Brad has had an off year just like basically the entire team.

He still has a lot to prove but a disappointing season doesn't undo multiple seasons of overachievement.

So try to mimic it ...even at 65 percent

Give the ball to kyrie and get out the way will not lead to the ultimate success

He is not like a Durant or Kobe...where he is unstoppable even against double teams/against multiple bodies

Tatum and Brown helped this team make it far last season

Yet this season they get ZERO opportunity to be the guy with less than 3 min.

IF they did. Other teams cant just sit on Irving to do everything
At least Tatum is getting heavy minutes... Brown's minutes are that of an 8th man lol
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2019, 10:10:15 PM »

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Right, Kyrie's success in Cleveland had nothing to do with playing beside the best player in the world.....


Brad has had an off year just like basically the entire team.

He still has a lot to prove but a disappointing season doesn't undo multiple seasons of overachievement.

So try to mimic it ...even at 65 percent

Give the ball to kyrie and get out the way will not lead to the ultimate success

He is not like a Durant or Kobe...where he is unstoppable even against double teams/against multiple bodies

Tatum and Brown helped this team make it far last season

Yet this season they get ZERO opportunity to be the guy with less than 3 min.

IF they did. Other teams cant just sit on Irving to do everything
At least Tatum is getting heavy minutes... Brown's minutes are that of an 8th man lol
Thats why it is stupid

Cbs management of mins

Brown also looks like a 3 pt specialist with less than 5 min

He is talented.. but his talent is wasted

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2019, 10:11:20 PM »

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    seems to me they make the same mistakes game after game.jaylen and jayson did nothing to help tonight,both played very poorly

Re: Brad Stevens is not an elite coach
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2019, 10:12:18 PM »

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Right, Kyrie's success in Cleveland had nothing to do with playing beside the best player in the world.....


Brad has had an off year just like basically the entire team.

He still has a lot to prove but a disappointing season doesn't undo multiple seasons of overachievement.

So try to mimic it ...even at 65 percent

Give the ball to kyrie and get out the way will not lead to the ultimate success

He is not like a Durant or Kobe...where he is unstoppable even against double teams/against multiple bodies

Tatum and Brown helped this team make it far last season

Yet this season they get ZERO opportunity to be the guy with less than 3 min.

IF they did. Other teams cant just sit on Irving to do everything
At least Tatum is getting heavy minutes... Brown's minutes are that of an 8th man lol
Thats why it is stupid

Cbs management of mins

Brown also looks like a 3 pt specialist with less than 5 min

He is talented.. but his talent is wasted
Exactly, he's a very dynamic wing player who should be getting plays to slash to the basket/post up called for him, but he's relegated to the corner to space the floor for guys like Smart and Morris to chuck shots ::)
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2019, 10:13:49 PM »

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I really have hated his rotations this year. Not disliked. Hated.

Morris and Rozier get way too many minutes, and are given far too much slack to do as they please in those minutes. If our rotation doesn't shorten in the Playoffs then we're done for.

As LarBrd has said, we should have 3 guys (3 of Kyrie, JB, JT and GH, depending on match-ups) getting 14+ shots a game. The rest can feed off the scraps.

Players seem to have no accountability
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2019, 10:14:12 PM »

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    seems to me they make the same mistakes game after game.jaylen and jayson did nothing to help tonight,both played very poorly
I thought it was the usual for Jaylen when he "plays poorly", it was more that he didn't get the ball and wasn't involved in the offense due to whatever scheme Brad comes up with to reward him scoring 20+ for three straight games.
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2019, 10:16:01 PM »

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I really have hated his rotations this year. Not disliked. Hated.

Morris and Rozier get way too many minutes, and are given far too much slack to do as they please in those minutes.If our rotation doesn't shorten in the Playoffs then we're done for.

As LarBrd has said, we should have 3 guys (3 of Kyrie, JB, JT and GH, depending on match-ups) getting 14+ shots a game. The rest can feed off the scraps.

Players seem to have no accountability
Be careful what you wish for lol, Brad might cut Jaylen's minutes even more to shorten the rotation for Morris to continue chucking shots.
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2019, 10:16:19 PM »

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I feel like there is enough evidence to support the thought that CBS is a mediocre offensive coach. There is nothing special about his philosophy on that side of the ball. He let’s anyone and everyone jack shots up.

It feels like he wants the C’s to mimic the the Spurs but that team can kill you with a thousand cuts. The majority of the time the C’s take the first lazy shot they can. When the 3’s are falling they look like a juggernaut but this team should be so much more than that. How do you preach ball movement then allow bigs to take 3’s early in the shot clock?

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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2019, 10:17:37 PM »

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I really have hated his rotations this year. Not disliked. Hated.

Morris and Rozier get way too many minutes, and are given far too much slack to do as they please in those minutes.If our rotation doesn't shorten in the Playoffs then we're done for.

As LarBrd has said, we should have 3 guys (3 of Kyrie, JB, JT and GH, depending on match-ups) getting 14+ shots a game. The rest can feed off the scraps.

Players seem to have no accountability
Be careful what you wish for lol, Brad might cut Jaylen's minutes even more to shorten the rotation for Morris to continue chucking shots.
I didn't even think of that.

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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2019, 10:18:33 PM »

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Burn this thread to the ground.


If Tatum hits at least 2 of his WIDE OPEN threes, this game has a different complexion. But god forbid anyone says something somewhat critical of a young guy. I know everyone wants Tatum to be special, but he's just not yet. He has flashes, but he's nowhere near doing it consistently.
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2019, 10:19:34 PM »

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    seems to me they make the same mistakes game after game.jaylen and jayson did nothing to help tonight,both played very poorly
I thought it was the usual for Jaylen when he "plays poorly", it was more that he didn't get the ball and wasn't involved in the offense due to whatever scheme Brad comes up with to reward him scoring 20+ for three straight games.

He basically has no scheme

Just his system and habits


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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2019, 10:21:14 PM »

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Burn this thread to the ground.


If Tatum hits at least 2 of his WIDE OPEN threes, this game has a different complexion. But god forbid anyone says something somewhat critical of a young guy. I know everyone wants Tatum to be special, but he's just not yet. He has flashes, but he's nowhere near doing it consistently.
What are you on about? The majority of this thread has been talking about Jaylen, whose recent performances have earned him the right to not play 20 minutes a game behind Morris and Smart imo.
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