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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #630 on: February 12, 2017, 12:07:32 PM »

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http://www.libertyballers.com/2017/2/11/14588548/sixers-joel-embiid-injury-meniscus-tear-portland-trail-blazers-houston-rockets-bryan-colangelo

Seems like Colangelo has really mishandled this whole Embiid injury situation, along with quite a bit of other stuff since being there.

Apparently, he let him play against the Rockets knowing that he had the meniscus tear, presumably because it was a high profile national TV game and he wanted to showcase Embiid and the team.

A lot of the 76ers fans are expecting Embiid to simply not play the rest of the year in further pursuit of the tank and to not chance it with him any more. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

I've had about enough of the Colon Jello family's shenanigans... They're the worst.
The media would have eviscerated Hinkie for this but Colangelo basically gets a pass because he's a basketball guy.

Why should he be eviscerated for a basketball player who, you know, played basketball?


Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #631 on: February 12, 2017, 12:30:53 PM »

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http://www.libertyballers.com/2017/2/11/14588548/sixers-joel-embiid-injury-meniscus-tear-portland-trail-blazers-houston-rockets-bryan-colangelo

Seems like Colangelo has really mishandled this whole Embiid injury situation, along with quite a bit of other stuff since being there.

Apparently, he let him play against the Rockets knowing that he had the meniscus tear, presumably because it was a high profile national TV game and he wanted to showcase Embiid and the team.

A lot of the 76ers fans are expecting Embiid to simply not play the rest of the year in further pursuit of the tank and to not chance it with him any more. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

I've had about enough of the Colon Jello family's shenanigans... They're the worst.
The media would have eviscerated Hinkie for this but Colangelo basically gets a pass because he's a basketball guy.

Why should he be eviscerated for a basketball player who, you know, played basketball?
because they knew he had a torn meniscus and put him out there anyway.
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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #632 on: February 12, 2017, 12:34:13 PM »

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because they knew he had a torn meniscus and put him out there anyway.

To be fair, Embiid apparently claimed he felt fine and pushed to play in the game (I think this was before the all-star teams were announced and Embiid was still campaigning for a bench spot). Obviously, there's a reason that you have team doctors, and it's management's job to manage, but it's not like Embiid showed up to the arena on crutches and they threw his jersey at him.

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #633 on: February 12, 2017, 12:34:14 PM »

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He look aiight to me.  https://mobile.twitter.com/mikeynelms/status/830275074250899457/video/1

How I love a player who has been out for a few weeks with a slight tear and in his off time, goes on stage at a concert and does that! Sounds like a perfect player to build a team wrong- what could possibly go wrong doing that type of crap?

Call it what you want, this highly talented beast of a player while playing restricted minutes has once again gotten injured. Having a slight knee tear under those playing circumstances does not bode well for his future ability to stay healthy.

I see the Sixers are not concerned as well by playing him a week after initial diagnosis. In addition,  they value Okafor so much that he will be traded any minute now. i guess they have no remorse they took that one with a top pick.

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #634 on: February 12, 2017, 01:27:11 PM »

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Tanking and showcasing are accepted in the league, but generally frowned on. 

The main reason Embiid has been held out is because they are showcasing Okafor, Noel and Saric before Simmons comes back.  Okafor had 20 points on Wednesday.  Noel had 19 yesterday.  Saric has looked like young Larry Bird lately as he adapts to USA style baskeball.  The trade deadline is coming up and Philadelphia has been trying to trade for Jimmy Butler, because they think he would be a great 3rd option behind Simmons and Embiid.  They want to move their pick and Okafor.  They want to keep the Lakers pick and Saric.

The secondary reasons for holding out Embiid are improving the pick before the trade deadline and giving Embiid some rest until after the allstar break.  A meniscus tear that doesn't require surgery is one of the most common injuries in sports.  With R.I.C.E you can be healed in a couple weeks.  Embiid had the injury a couple weeks ago.  He is either already healed or almost healed. That's why he is listed as Day-To-Day.  He played after the injury and dumped 35 points on the Rockets.  It's a cupcake injury.  He and Simmons will play after allstar break and after they make some trades.   I'd trade our entire team for Embiid.

They were just calling it a bone bruise, because they knew how much fans and the media would freak out when they saw the word "tear".   It's not a big deal.   The problem is that Embiid was at the Meek Mills concert on Friday and jumped on stage dancing like a maniac with his shirt off.  Millions saw it on twitter.  This sent the wrong message, because it made it obvious they were just holding him out to tank and showcase Okafor, Noel and Saric.  The front office was getting heat for it.  They had to come out and clarify that it's a meniscus tear.  That will justify keeping him out until the trade deadline passes.

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« Reply #635 on: February 12, 2017, 01:37:08 PM »

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Tanking and showcasing are accepted in the league, but generally frowned on. 

The main reason Embiid has been held out is because they are showcasing Okafor, Noel and Saric before Simmons comes back.  Okafor had 20 points on Wednesday.  Noel had 19 yesterday.  Saric has looked like young Larry Bird lately as he adapts to USA style baskeball.  The trade deadline is coming up and Philadelphia has been trying to trade for Jimmy Butler, because they think he would be a great 3rd option behind Simmons and Embiid.  They want to move their pick and Okafor.  They want to keep the Lakers pick and Saric.

The secondary reasons for holding out Embiid are improving the pick before the trade deadline and giving Embiid some rest until after the allstar break.  A meniscus tear that doesn't require surgery is one of the most common injuries in sports.  With R.I.C.E you can be healed in a couple weeks.  Embiid had the injury a couple weeks ago.  He is either already healed or almost healed. That's why he is listed as Day-To-Day.  He played after the injury and dumped 35 points on the Rockets.  It's a cupcake injury.  He and Simmons will play after allstar break and after they make some trades.   I'd trade our entire team for Embiid.

They were just calling it a bone bruise, because they knew how much fans and the media would freak out when they saw the word "tear".   It's not a big deal.   The problem is that Embiid was at the Meek Mills concert on Friday and jumped on stage dancing like a maniac with his shirt off.  Millions saw it on twitter.  This sent the wrong message, because it made it obvious they were just holding him out to tank and showcase Okafor, Noel and Saric.  The front office was getting heat for it.  They had to come out and clarify that it's a meniscus tear.  That will justify keeping him out until the trade deadline passes.
No, the only reason Embiid has been held out is that he is injured and gets soreness and swelling when he does any serious basketball activity.  And you are crazy if you'd trade the entire second best team in the east for a guy who has played 30 games in 3 years.  Insane.

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« Reply #636 on: February 12, 2017, 01:47:18 PM »

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Tanking and showcasing are accepted in the league, but generally frowned on. 

The main reason Embiid has been held out is because they are showcasing Okafor, Noel and Saric before Simmons comes back.  Okafor had 20 points on Wednesday.  Noel had 19 yesterday.  Saric has looked like young Larry Bird lately as he adapts to USA style baskeball.  The trade deadline is coming up and Philadelphia has been trying to trade for Jimmy Butler, because they think he would be a great 3rd option behind Simmons and Embiid.  They want to move their pick and Okafor.  They want to keep the Lakers pick and Saric.

The secondary reasons for holding out Embiid are improving the pick before the trade deadline and giving Embiid some rest until after the allstar break.  A meniscus tear that doesn't require surgery is one of the most common injuries in sports.  With R.I.C.E you can be healed in a couple weeks.  Embiid had the injury a couple weeks ago.  He is either already healed or almost healed. That's why he is listed as Day-To-Day.  He played after the injury and dumped 35 points on the Rockets.  It's a cupcake injury.  He and Simmons will play after allstar break and after they make some trades.   I'd trade our entire team for Embiid.

They were just calling it a bone bruise, because they knew how much fans and the media would freak out when they saw the word "tear".   It's not a big deal.   The problem is that Embiid was at the Meek Mills concert on Friday and jumped on stage dancing like a maniac with his shirt off.  Millions saw it on twitter.  This sent the wrong message, because it made it obvious they were just holding him out to tank and showcase Okafor, Noel and Saric.  The front office was getting heat for it.  They had to come out and clarify that it's a meniscus tear.  That will justify keeping him out until the trade deadline passes.
No, the only reason Embiid has been held out is that he is injured and gets soreness and swelling when he does any serious basketball activity.  And you are crazy if you'd trade the entire second best team in the east for a guy who has played 30 games in 3 years.  Insane.
yea sorry trading our whole team for embiid is a ridiculous statement and probably just serves to lower the discourse of this thread

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #637 on: February 12, 2017, 01:54:22 PM »

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Tanking and showcasing are accepted in the league, but generally frowned on. 

The main reason Embiid has been held out is because they are showcasing Okafor, Noel and Saric before Simmons comes back.  Okafor had 20 points on Wednesday.  Noel had 19 yesterday.  Saric has looked like young Larry Bird lately as he adapts to USA style baskeball.  The trade deadline is coming up and Philadelphia has been trying to trade for Jimmy Butler, because they think he would be a great 3rd option behind Simmons and Embiid.  They want to move their pick and Okafor.  They want to keep the Lakers pick and Saric.

The secondary reasons for holding out Embiid are improving the pick before the trade deadline and giving Embiid some rest until after the allstar break.  A meniscus tear that doesn't require surgery is one of the most common injuries in sports.  With R.I.C.E you can be healed in a couple weeks.  Embiid had the injury a couple weeks ago.  He is either already healed or almost healed. That's why he is listed as Day-To-Day.  He played after the injury and dumped 35 points on the Rockets.  It's a cupcake injury.  He and Simmons will play after allstar break and after they make some trades.   I'd trade our entire team for Embiid.

They were just calling it a bone bruise, because they knew how much fans and the media would freak out when they saw the word "tear".   It's not a big deal.   The problem is that Embiid was at the Meek Mills concert on Friday and jumped on stage dancing like a maniac with his shirt off.  Millions saw it on twitter.  This sent the wrong message, because it made it obvious they were just holding him out to tank and showcase Okafor, Noel and Saric.  The front office was getting heat for it.  They had to come out and clarify that it's a meniscus tear.  That will justify keeping him out until the trade deadline passes.
No, the only reason Embiid has been held out is that he is injured and gets soreness and swelling when he does any serious basketball activity.  And you are crazy if you'd trade the entire second best team in the east for a guy who has played 30 games in 3 years.  Insane.
yea sorry trading our whole team for embiid is a ridiculous statement and probably just serves to lower the discourse of this thread
don't be ignorant.  Would you trade the whole team for young LeBron, young Jordan, young Bird or young Duncan?  I sure as hell would.  And I would gladly trade our entire team and all draft picks for Embiid.  He is superhuman.  He is guaranteed to win at minimum two championships.

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #638 on: February 12, 2017, 02:00:22 PM »

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Tanking and showcasing are accepted in the league, but generally frowned on. 

The main reason Embiid has been held out is because they are showcasing Okafor, Noel and Saric before Simmons comes back.  Okafor had 20 points on Wednesday.  Noel had 19 yesterday.  Saric has looked like young Larry Bird lately as he adapts to USA style baskeball.  The trade deadline is coming up and Philadelphia has been trying to trade for Jimmy Butler, because they think he would be a great 3rd option behind Simmons and Embiid.  They want to move their pick and Okafor.  They want to keep the Lakers pick and Saric.

The secondary reasons for holding out Embiid are improving the pick before the trade deadline and giving Embiid some rest until after the allstar break.  A meniscus tear that doesn't require surgery is one of the most common injuries in sports.  With R.I.C.E you can be healed in a couple weeks.  Embiid had the injury a couple weeks ago.  He is either already healed or almost healed. That's why he is listed as Day-To-Day.  He played after the injury and dumped 35 points on the Rockets.  It's a cupcake injury.  He and Simmons will play after allstar break and after they make some trades.   I'd trade our entire team for Embiid.

They were just calling it a bone bruise, because they knew how much fans and the media would freak out when they saw the word "tear".   It's not a big deal.   The problem is that Embiid was at the Meek Mills concert on Friday and jumped on stage dancing like a maniac with his shirt off.  Millions saw it on twitter.  This sent the wrong message, because it made it obvious they were just holding him out to tank and showcase Okafor, Noel and Saric.  The front office was getting heat for it.  They had to come out and clarify that it's a meniscus tear.  That will justify keeping him out until the trade deadline passes.
No, the only reason Embiid has been held out is that he is injured and gets soreness and swelling when he does any serious basketball activity.  And you are crazy if you'd trade the entire second best team in the east for a guy who has played 30 games in 3 years.  Insane.
yea sorry trading our whole team for embiid is a ridiculous statement and probably just serves to lower the discourse of this thread
don't be ignorant.  Would you trade the whole team for young LeBron, young Jordan, young Bird or young Duncan?  I sure as hell would.  And I would gladly trade our entire team and all draft picks for Embiid.  He is superhuman.  He is guaranteed to win at minimum two championships.

Could also rebreak his foot and be the second coming of Andrew Bynum. Great prospect, to be sure, but not necessarily a sure-thing franchise player.

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #639 on: February 12, 2017, 02:10:02 PM »

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Tanking and showcasing are accepted in the league, but generally frowned on. 

The main reason Embiid has been held out is because they are showcasing Okafor, Noel and Saric before Simmons comes back.  Okafor had 20 points on Wednesday.  Noel had 19 yesterday.  Saric has looked like young Larry Bird lately as he adapts to USA style baskeball.  The trade deadline is coming up and Philadelphia has been trying to trade for Jimmy Butler, because they think he would be a great 3rd option behind Simmons and Embiid.  They want to move their pick and Okafor.  They want to keep the Lakers pick and Saric.

The secondary reasons for holding out Embiid are improving the pick before the trade deadline and giving Embiid some rest until after the allstar break.  A meniscus tear that doesn't require surgery is one of the most common injuries in sports.  With R.I.C.E you can be healed in a couple weeks.  Embiid had the injury a couple weeks ago.  He is either already healed or almost healed. That's why he is listed as Day-To-Day.  He played after the injury and dumped 35 points on the Rockets.  It's a cupcake injury.  He and Simmons will play after allstar break and after they make some trades.   I'd trade our entire team for Embiid.

They were just calling it a bone bruise, because they knew how much fans and the media would freak out when they saw the word "tear".   It's not a big deal.   The problem is that Embiid was at the Meek Mills concert on Friday and jumped on stage dancing like a maniac with his shirt off.  Millions saw it on twitter.  This sent the wrong message, because it made it obvious they were just holding him out to tank and showcase Okafor, Noel and Saric.  The front office was getting heat for it.  They had to come out and clarify that it's a meniscus tear.  That will justify keeping him out until the trade deadline passes.
No, the only reason Embiid has been held out is that he is injured and gets soreness and swelling when he does any serious basketball activity.  And you are crazy if you'd trade the entire second best team in the east for a guy who has played 30 games in 3 years.  Insane.
yea sorry trading our whole team for embiid is a ridiculous statement and probably just serves to lower the discourse of this thread
don't be ignorant.  Would you trade the whole team for young LeBron, young Jordan, young Bird or young Duncan?  I sure as hell would.  And I would gladly trade our entire team and all draft picks for Embiid.  He is superhuman.  He is guaranteed to win at minimum two championships.

Put down the Kool-Aid. Or crack pipe. Or whatever it is.

He's not the one who is being ignorant. Embiid is guaranteed to win NOTHING. Beyond the very real injury risk that he presents, you can't say he's better than Davis or KAT. Those guys are guaranteed to win nothing either. History is replete with guys who were actually great (Embiid isn't great yet) for long periods that didn't win anything. Ewing. Barkely. Malone. Wilkins. Baylor. The list goes on and on.

You want to know the commonality of those guys? They rarely played on complete teams. If you were to trade everything to acquire him, you know what you'd get in the very BEST case? You'd get KG on bad Minny teams. How did that work out for the Timberwolves? How is it working out for Philly this year? Your post is absurd because your premise is so faulty. No one wins alone. Not Jordan. Not Bird. Not even Big Bill.

It's far too early to say he's a young Jordan, Bird or Duncan. History will judge that at a later date, not when he's 22 and playing for bad teams. Until then, I'd rather have the winning team loaded with assets rather than putting all the eggs into one very fragile and otherwise empty basket.
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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #640 on: February 12, 2017, 02:17:11 PM »

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Tanking and showcasing are accepted in the league, but generally frowned on. 

The main reason Embiid has been held out is because they are showcasing Okafor, Noel and Saric before Simmons comes back.  Okafor had 20 points on Wednesday.  Noel had 19 yesterday.  Saric has looked like young Larry Bird lately as he adapts to USA style baskeball.  The trade deadline is coming up and Philadelphia has been trying to trade for Jimmy Butler, because they think he would be a great 3rd option behind Simmons and Embiid.  They want to move their pick and Okafor.  They want to keep the Lakers pick and Saric.

The secondary reasons for holding out Embiid are improving the pick before the trade deadline and giving Embiid some rest until after the allstar break.  A meniscus tear that doesn't require surgery is one of the most common injuries in sports.  With R.I.C.E you can be healed in a couple weeks.  Embiid had the injury a couple weeks ago.  He is either already healed or almost healed. That's why he is listed as Day-To-Day.  He played after the injury and dumped 35 points on the Rockets.  It's a cupcake injury.  He and Simmons will play after allstar break and after they make some trades.   I'd trade our entire team for Embiid.

They were just calling it a bone bruise, because they knew how much fans and the media would freak out when they saw the word "tear".   It's not a big deal.   The problem is that Embiid was at the Meek Mills concert on Friday and jumped on stage dancing like a maniac with his shirt off.  Millions saw it on twitter.  This sent the wrong message, because it made it obvious they were just holding him out to tank and showcase Okafor, Noel and Saric.  The front office was getting heat for it.  They had to come out and clarify that it's a meniscus tear.  That will justify keeping him out until the trade deadline passes.
No, the only reason Embiid has been held out is that he is injured and gets soreness and swelling when he does any serious basketball activity.  And you are crazy if you'd trade the entire second best team in the east for a guy who has played 30 games in 3 years.  Insane.
yea sorry trading our whole team for embiid is a ridiculous statement and probably just serves to lower the discourse of this thread
don't be ignorant.  Would you trade the whole team for young LeBron, young Jordan, young Bird or young Duncan?  I sure as hell would.  And I would gladly trade our entire team and all draft picks for Embiid.  He is superhuman.  He is guaranteed to win at minimum two championships.

Put down the Kool-Aid. Or crack pipe. Or whatever it is.

He's not the one who is being ignorant. Embiid is guaranteed to win NOTHING. Beyond the very real injury risk that he presents, you can't say he's better than Davis or KAT. Those guys are guaranteed to win nothing either. History is replete with guys who were actually great (Embiid isn't great yet) for long periods that didn't win anything. Ewing. Barkely. Malone. Wilkins. Baylor. The list goes on and on.

You want to know the commonality of those guys? They rarely played on complete teams. If you were to trade everything to acquire him, you know what you'd get in the very BEST case? You'd get KG on bad Minny teams. How did that work out for the Timberwolves? How is it working out for Philly this year? Your post is absurd because your premise is so faulty. No one wins alone. Not Jordan. Not Bird. Not even Big Bill.

It's far too early to say he's a young Jordan, Bird or Duncan. History will judge that at a later date, not when he's 22 and playing for bad teams. Until then, I'd rather have the winning team loaded with assets rather than putting all the eggs into one very fragile and otherwise empty basket.

Tp granary. Calling me ignorant and comparing embiid to a young Lebron and Jordan in the same sentence. Wow

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« Reply #641 on: February 12, 2017, 02:43:34 PM »

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You can say he's not like Jordan, Bird, and Duncan because those guys didn't miss their first 3 years!
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« Reply #643 on: February 12, 2017, 02:55:45 PM »

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Tanking and showcasing are accepted in the league, but generally frowned on. 

The main reason Embiid has been held out is because they are showcasing Okafor, Noel and Saric before Simmons comes back.  Okafor had 20 points on Wednesday.  Noel had 19 yesterday.  Saric has looked like young Larry Bird lately as he adapts to USA style baskeball.  The trade deadline is coming up and Philadelphia has been trying to trade for Jimmy Butler, because they think he would be a great 3rd option behind Simmons and Embiid.  They want to move their pick and Okafor.  They want to keep the Lakers pick and Saric.

The secondary reasons for holding out Embiid are improving the pick before the trade deadline and giving Embiid some rest until after the allstar break.  A meniscus tear that doesn't require surgery is one of the most common injuries in sports.  With R.I.C.E you can be healed in a couple weeks.  Embiid had the injury a couple weeks ago.  He is either already healed or almost healed. That's why he is listed as Day-To-Day.  He played after the injury and dumped 35 points on the Rockets.  It's a cupcake injury.  He and Simmons will play after allstar break and after they make some trades.   I'd trade our entire team for Embiid.

They were just calling it a bone bruise, because they knew how much fans and the media would freak out when they saw the word "tear".   It's not a big deal.   The problem is that Embiid was at the Meek Mills concert on Friday and jumped on stage dancing like a maniac with his shirt off.  Millions saw it on twitter.  This sent the wrong message, because it made it obvious they were just holding him out to tank and showcase Okafor, Noel and Saric.  The front office was getting heat for it.  They had to come out and clarify that it's a meniscus tear.  That will justify keeping him out until the trade deadline passes.
No, the only reason Embiid has been held out is that he is injured and gets soreness and swelling when he does any serious basketball activity.  And you are crazy if you'd trade the entire second best team in the east for a guy who has played 30 games in 3 years.  Insane.
yea sorry trading our whole team for embiid is a ridiculous statement and probably just serves to lower the discourse of this thread
don't be ignorant.  Would you trade the whole team for young LeBron, young Jordan, young Bird or young Duncan?  I sure as hell would.  And I would gladly trade our entire team and all draft picks for Embiid.  He is superhuman.  He is guaranteed to win at minimum two championships.

Put down the Kool-Aid. Or crack pipe. Or whatever it is.

He's not the one who is being ignorant. Embiid is guaranteed to win NOTHING. Beyond the very real injury risk that he presents, you can't say he's better than Davis or KAT. Those guys are guaranteed to win nothing either. History is replete with guys who were actually great (Embiid isn't great yet) for long periods that didn't win anything. Ewing. Barkely. Malone. Wilkins. Baylor. The list goes on and on.

You want to know the commonality of those guys? They rarely played on complete teams. If you were to trade everything to acquire him, you know what you'd get in the very BEST case? You'd get KG on bad Minny teams. How did that work out for the Timberwolves? How is it working out for Philly this year? Your post is absurd because your premise is so faulty. No one wins alone. Not Jordan. Not Bird. Not even Big Bill.

It's far too early to say he's a young Jordan, Bird or Duncan. History will judge that at a later date, not when he's 22 and playing for bad teams. Until then, I'd rather have the winning team loaded with assets rather than putting all the eggs into one very fragile and otherwise empty basket.
don't be ignorant.  Kat and Davis can't hold Embiid's jock.  People who compare them don't watch basketball.  Kat is a terrible defender.   Embiid is the evolutionary Bill Russell on the defensive end.  There is no comparison.  Philadelphia will be a threat to win the East next year whether or not they add Butler.  Embiid is a hall of fame talent that will win multiple championships.  He will also star in many movies and father many exceptional children.

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« Reply #644 on: February 12, 2017, 02:58:06 PM »

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Tanking and showcasing are accepted in the league, but generally frowned on. 

The main reason Embiid has been held out is because they are showcasing Okafor, Noel and Saric before Simmons comes back.  Okafor had 20 points on Wednesday.  Noel had 19 yesterday.  Saric has looked like young Larry Bird lately as he adapts to USA style baskeball.  The trade deadline is coming up and Philadelphia has been trying to trade for Jimmy Butler, because they think he would be a great 3rd option behind Simmons and Embiid.  They want to move their pick and Okafor.  They want to keep the Lakers pick and Saric.

The secondary reasons for holding out Embiid are improving the pick before the trade deadline and giving Embiid some rest until after the allstar break.  A meniscus tear that doesn't require surgery is one of the most common injuries in sports.  With R.I.C.E you can be healed in a couple weeks.  Embiid had the injury a couple weeks ago.  He is either already healed or almost healed. That's why he is listed as Day-To-Day.  He played after the injury and dumped 35 points on the Rockets.  It's a cupcake injury.  He and Simmons will play after allstar break and after they make some trades.   I'd trade our entire team for Embiid.

They were just calling it a bone bruise, because they knew how much fans and the media would freak out when they saw the word "tear".   It's not a big deal.   The problem is that Embiid was at the Meek Mills concert on Friday and jumped on stage dancing like a maniac with his shirt off.  Millions saw it on twitter.  This sent the wrong message, because it made it obvious they were just holding him out to tank and showcase Okafor, Noel and Saric.  The front office was getting heat for it.  They had to come out and clarify that it's a meniscus tear.  That will justify keeping him out until the trade deadline passes.
No, the only reason Embiid has been held out is that he is injured and gets soreness and swelling when he does any serious basketball activity.  And you are crazy if you'd trade the entire second best team in the east for a guy who has played 30 games in 3 years.  Insane.
yea sorry trading our whole team for embiid is a ridiculous statement and probably just serves to lower the discourse of this thread
don't be ignorant.  Would you trade the whole team for young LeBron, young Jordan, young Bird or young Duncan?  I sure as hell would.  And I would gladly trade our entire team and all draft picks for Embiid.  He is superhuman.  He is guaranteed to win at minimum two championships.

Put down the Kool-Aid. Or crack pipe. Or whatever it is.

He's not the one who is being ignorant. Embiid is guaranteed to win NOTHING. Beyond the very real injury risk that he presents, you can't say he's better than Davis or KAT. Those guys are guaranteed to win nothing either. History is replete with guys who were actually great (Embiid isn't great yet) for long periods that didn't win anything. Ewing. Barkely. Malone. Wilkins. Baylor. The list goes on and on.

You want to know the commonality of those guys? They rarely played on complete teams. If you were to trade everything to acquire him, you know what you'd get in the very BEST case? You'd get KG on bad Minny teams. How did that work out for the Timberwolves? How is it working out for Philly this year? Your post is absurd because your premise is so faulty. No one wins alone. Not Jordan. Not Bird. Not even Big Bill.

It's far too early to say he's a young Jordan, Bird or Duncan. History will judge that at a later date, not when he's 22 and playing for bad teams. Until then, I'd rather have the winning team loaded with assets rather than putting all the eggs into one very fragile and otherwise empty basket.
don't be ignorant.  Kat and Davis can't hold Embiid's jock.  People who compare them don't watch basketball.  Kat is a terrible defender.   Embiid is the evolutionary Bill Russell on the defensive end.  There is no comparison.  Philadelphia will be a threat to win the East next year whether or not they add Butler.  Embiid is a hall of fame talent that will win multiple championships.  He will also star in many movies and father many exceptional children.

You being the exception?