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I sincerely believe this.  The guy just can't shoot. Terrible 3 point shooter

This said he is still an all star at the NBA level. No question.  But I laugh at some analyst/experts who state he is one of the likely players to take over Lebron, KD status once they retire

I doubt it.  He is a tall SF that can't shoot.  How many forwards that can't shoot actually end up becoming a great player?

As well not sure what has happened to his passing skills (pre draft).

Would be a good 2nd option on a team trying to to win a championship


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I sincerely believe this.  The guy just can't shoot. Terrible 3 point shooter

This said he is still an all star at the NBA level. No question.  But I laugh at some analyst/experts who state he is one of the likely players to take over Lebron, KD status once they retire

I doubt it.  He is a tall SF that can't shoot.  How many forwards that can't shoot actually end up becoming a great player?

As well not sure what has happened to his passing skills (pre draft).

Would be a good 2nd option on a team trying to to win a championship

Giannis is a #1 option, lol.  He's already elite.

He's not the problem on that Bucks team.

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I sincerely believe this.  The guy just can't shoot. Terrible 3 point shooter

This said he is still an all star at the NBA level. No question.  But I laugh at some analyst/experts who state he is one of the likely players to take over Lebron, KD status once they retire

I doubt it.  He is a tall SF that can't shoot.  How many forwards that can't shoot actually end up becoming a great player?

As well not sure what has happened to his passing skills (pre draft).

Would be a good 2nd option on a team trying to to win a championship

To answer your question; the first two to come to mind are Garnett and Duncan.
DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

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I would say he's already "elite". But no doubt, if you improve a weakness on any player it takes them to another level. Giannis with more reliable range is almost unthinkably frightening. As it is, all he needs is better structure around him for improved team success.

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He's already a great/elite player.

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To answer your question; the first two to come to mind are Garnett and Duncan.
Huh? Garnett and Duncan could both shoot from their rookie year till their last year.

Duncan shot 42% on long twos his rookie year, Garnett shot 41% and both shot them pretty frequently.

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Player development is key in any profession.   That being said, he still is ELITE.     He is ALL - NBA and we will see what the professionals think of him at the end of this year.     You have an opinion, on Elite.    And I agree with you a jump shot is holding him back.   But he is still a Top 15 player in this league now, and show only get better.   

Do you agree he is a top 15 player and will only get better?   
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To answer your question; the first two to come to mind are Garnett and Duncan.
Huh? Garnett and Duncan could both shoot from their rookie year till their last year.

Duncan shot 42% on long twos his rookie year, Garnett shot 41% and both shot them pretty frequently.

The knock on Giannis in the OP was that he didn’t have three point range.
DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

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He's already elite.  His lack of range does require teams to prioritize getting more shooting and spacing around him, though, but every team in the league is willing to deal with that kind of problem.

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To answer your question; the first two to come to mind are Garnett and Duncan.
Huh? Garnett and Duncan could both shoot from their rookie year till their last year.

Duncan shot 42% on long twos his rookie year, Garnett shot 41% and both shot them pretty frequently.

The knock on Giannis in the OP was that he didn’t have three point range.
Eh, mentions 3 point shooting but mostly about shooting in general. Nor does he need it honestly given that his ability to attack the rim means that just any reliable jumper will go a long way to giving him room to work.

Think Westbrook and LeBron having the pull up as an option opened things up for them so much as they improved their game. Ideally you want the 3 as an option eventually of course.

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He's already elite.  His lack of range does require teams to prioritize getting more shooting and spacing around him, though, but every team in the league is willing to deal with that kind of problem.
Yeah Brown and Tatum have darn good 3 point shots and Danny/Brad would swap em for Giannis faster than OP could make a thread calling it a franchise sinking move.

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To answer your question; the first two to come to mind are Garnett and Duncan.
Huh? Garnett and Duncan could both shoot from their rookie year till their last year.

Duncan shot 42% on long twos his rookie year, Garnett shot 41% and both shot them pretty frequently.

The knock on Giannis in the OP was that he didn’t have three point range.

He doesn't have a mid range shot either

Everything its trying to utilize good athleticism + freaky reach

But there is a limit as to how far this can take you. Especially when there are one, two , three guys waiting for you underneath the net

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To answer your question; the first two to come to mind are Garnett and Duncan.
Huh? Garnett and Duncan could both shoot from their rookie year till their last year.

Duncan shot 42% on long twos his rookie year, Garnett shot 41% and both shot them pretty frequently.

The knock on Giannis in the OP was that he didn’t have three point range.
Eh, mentions 3 point shooting but mostly about shooting in general. Nor does he need it honestly given that his ability to attack the rim means that just any reliable jumper will go a long way to giving him room to work.

Think Westbrook and LeBron having the pull up as an option opened things up for them so much as they improved their game. Ideally you want the 3 as an option eventually of course.

Giannis’ mid range jumper has become serviceable.
DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

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I would say he's already "elite". But no doubt, if you improve a weakness on any player it takes them to another level. Giannis with more reliable range is almost unthinkably frightening. As it is, all he needs is better structure around him for improved team success.

Elite imo is Lebron, KD, Leonard(when healthy)

When there is a "wall" or obstacle in front of them, they still find ways to score

When there are guys waiting for Giannis underneath the basket to take a charge, block the lane or ready to swat his layup, he has no other option to resort to (shooting)

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To answer your question; the first two to come to mind are Garnett and Duncan.
Huh? Garnett and Duncan could both shoot from their rookie year till their last year.

Duncan shot 42% on long twos his rookie year, Garnett shot 41% and both shot them pretty frequently.

The knock on Giannis in the OP was that he didn’t have three point range.
Eh, mentions 3 point shooting but mostly about shooting in general. Nor does he need it honestly given that his ability to attack the rim means that just any reliable jumper will go a long way to giving him room to work.

Think Westbrook and LeBron having the pull up as an option opened things up for them so much as they improved their game. Ideally you want the 3 as an option eventually of course.

Giannis’ mid range jumper has become serviceable.

Do you even remember him taking/making a mid range jump shot so far?  Serviceable means he will mix it up into his repertoire. And do it comfortably with decent pressure against him

If he can make it when WIDE open, non playoff environment, it is kind of useless