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Title: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Tr1boy on April 07, 2018, 12:05:55 PM
25 min (season high) +12 season high

He needs to keep working on his 3 pt shot but in time should be a capable shooter (36 percent from 3 in the d league)

Like his hustle , reach and big body causes issues for opponents on the defensive end

offensively he is reading plays quicker, passing the ball quicker and doing alot of off ball movement stuff better

Hope that he gets another start.   He will make mistakes but he needs exposure on the court vs being buried on the bench
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: nickagneta on April 07, 2018, 12:37:07 PM
Let's not over react to one game against a Chicago team sporting a G League lineup when evaluating the performances of any of the Celtics players last night. Bird, Yabu, Ojeleye, and Gibson could easily have had games that good against the Delaware 87ers. Heck is it a coincidence Brown put up a career high and Monroe put up his 2nd career triple double in the same game as a bunch of end of the bench scrubs had good games? Of course not. The opposition was awful.

Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: libermaniac on April 07, 2018, 01:17:48 PM
I don’t think the OP overreacted at all. I’m the biggest Yabusele hater there is. I don’t see any potential in him. But I still don’t think he overreacted at all.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Big333223 on April 07, 2018, 01:52:07 PM
Looking at the box score, 6 shot attempts and 4 of them were 3's. 6 rebounds and all of them were defensive. I think he still has a lot to learn about where to be on offense. I know he's got a great motor and an intriguing skillset but he has to learn how to use it. Some of this is that he's not ready to have plays drawn up for him but I want to see him making cuts and crashing the offensive glass.

Look at Jabari Bird last night. He got a ton of points by moving on offense and being in the right place at the right time.

If Yabu figures out where to be agressive, where to focus all his energy, he can have a real impact. I'm hopeful.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: satch on April 07, 2018, 02:02:34 PM
Wait and weight
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Tr1boy on April 07, 2018, 02:16:16 PM
Let's not over react to one game against a Chicago team sporting a G League lineup when evaluating the performances of any of the Celtics players last night. Bird, Yabu, Ojeleye, and Gibson could easily have had games that good against the Delaware 87ers. Heck is it a coincidence Brown put up a career high and Monroe put up his 2nd career triple double in the same game as a bunch of end of the bench scrubs had good games? Of course not. The opposition was awful.

Nick , playing well against bad teams is a step up to playing better against better competition

Against bad teams  in the past, players xyz failed to make even the slightest improvements

We can all agree Yabu needs more exposure at the nba level. Not only in practice, but in real live games

He played well last night in 25 min (career high).  Hoping he gets to start in the next 2 games before likely the starters get 1 game together before the playoffs

Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: footey on April 07, 2018, 03:20:21 PM
He shows glimpses of great athleticism like those 2 blocks last night. But he has a long way to go before proving he deserves good minutes. I’d like him to become more assertive thelast several games. Not enough to take the occasional 3 point shot.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: byennie on April 07, 2018, 03:26:02 PM
It would be fantastic if he develops into a starter, but even as a role player he could be an interesting piece. A rotation guy who wins a playoff series someday due to matchups, able to defend the post, switch on to 3s and 4s, and shoot the 3.

Big Baby with a better head on his shoulders, 3PT ability, and more defensive athleticism would be a fun guy for years to come...

He could also never develop, but he's definitely intriguing.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: blink on April 07, 2018, 03:35:33 PM
Count me among the skeptics on Yabu.  Don't get me wrong, I am rooting for the guy, but I just haven't seen a whole lot that makes me think Yabu is going to be a solid rotation player for us anytime soon. 

He needs a lot of PT to develop.  I just am not sure if he is going to get that with us next year.  I like his hustle though.  I think the big baby comparisons are a bit premature.  I don't think Yabu has the offensive instincts that big baby had.  If he continues to develop his 3pt shot, it might be a way for him to see more PT.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: tazzmaniac on April 07, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
He'll be 23 in December.  He doesn't have a lot of time to develop and given where the team stands I don't think he'll get much of an opportunity unless he makes a lot of progress over the offseason. 
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: spikelovetheCelts on April 07, 2018, 04:26:03 PM
I have seen glimpses. He can pass and he has moved his feet on defense sometimes that are gifted. He has made some shots to. He does not make stupid turnovers. Brad has said he has some gifts and potential. Like other posters have said he needs playing time. In Brad I trust, I think he will help the dancing bear make it a few years. He is on the cheap the next two years.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Sophomore on April 07, 2018, 05:01:31 PM
This is ridiculous. He’s getting an MRI for “knee soreness”.  Make. It. Stop.  >:( >:(

https://twitter.com/ESPNForsberg/status/982697403701710849?s=20
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Celtics4ever on April 07, 2018, 06:41:38 PM
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have seen glimpses. He can pass and he has moved his feet on defense sometimes that are gifted. He has made some shots to. He does not make stupid turnovers. Brad has said he has some gifts and potential.

When he missed the three last night you could see the frustration in his body language.   I think he lacks confidence in his offense.

Draymond Green he is not, nor will he be.  Guys who don't have confidence are all over the place and up and down.   One should never build around them as they can carry you or let you down. 

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It would be fantastic if he develops into a starter, but even as a role player he could be an interesting piece.


Nothing I have seen makes me think this will happen.

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He needs to keep working on his 3 pt shot but in time should be a capable shooter (36 percent from 3 in the d league)

Like his hustle , reach and big body causes issues for opponents on the defensive end

offensively he is reading plays quicker, passing the ball quicker and doing alot of off ball movement stuff better

Hope that he gets another start.   He will make mistakes but he needs exposure on the court vs being buried on the bench

Does he deserve to start, nope.  I liked his D, but I feel he lacks confidence in his offense.   Some guys never get the confidence.    I am for letting his contract play out but I have serious doubts that he will ever be more than a end of bench guy.   I hope I am wrong, though.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: tstorey_97 on April 07, 2018, 08:43:24 PM
He's never played in anything close to the NBA.

He has 200- minutes in the NBA this season with the majority garbage time.

He now has three starts and is on a trend. Let's go with 500 minutes next year and become a rotation player the year after that if he dodges being filler in a trade.

Guy is a shooter not a defender. On the Celtics if he could get some points, I'd see them keeping him for his shooting...even though he isn't shooting much yet. 10:1 he's survives the next couple of trades.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Chris22 on April 07, 2018, 08:51:24 PM
Yabu is better than Semi and Jabari is better than Nader.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Tr1boy on April 09, 2018, 01:28:28 PM
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Yabusele’s MRI good
An MRI of Guerschon Yabusele’s left knee was negative, but he was held out of Sunday’s game against the Hawks as a precautionary measure. Yabusele complained of knee soreness after Friday’s win over the Chicago Bulls and did not practice Saturday .
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: ChillyWilly on April 09, 2018, 01:59:39 PM
Yabu is better than Semi and Jabari is better than Nader.

I couldn't disagree more. I don't see what others do in Yabu not even a little bit. Some of you see a lite version of Draymond Green I see a lite version of Malik Rose.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: byennie on April 09, 2018, 02:18:04 PM
Yabu is better than Semi and Jabari is better than Nader.

I couldn't disagree more. I don't see what others do in Yabu not even a little bit. Some of you see a lite version of Draymond Green I see a lite version of Malik Rose.

Yabu > Semi is a "couldn't disagree more"? That's a little strong considering Semi might not stick in the league himself.

Yabu has a long, long way to go but he was good in France, and he was arguably the best of the bunch in Maine this year, too (20/8/3/2). Don't get me wrong, he could amount to nothing, but people aren't crazy for seeing potential in a guy with a freakish body (even by NBA standards) who can shoot 3s and do a little of everything on the court.

He's played 200 minutes in the NBA scattered over 32 games. I'm not convinced anyone here can judge him by the "eye test" at this point. He's had basically zero on-court opportunity so far.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: CFAN38 on April 09, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
I will be really interested to see how Yabu performs next preseason. This will be a huge off-season for Yabu to prove he deserves a long term spot on this team.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Tr1boy on April 09, 2018, 03:08:39 PM
Yabu once he "gets" it , could be a nice role player

a player with his size/mobility/athleticism/versatility is a unique combination.  Like a Draymond  (minus as good ball handling or passing skills)

so far like his hustle and not shy to get physical under the basket at both ends
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: GRADYCOLNON on April 12, 2018, 03:23:41 AM
Yabu once he "gets" it , could be a nice role player

a player with his size/mobility/athleticism/versatility is a unique combination.  Like a Draymond  (minus as good ball handling or passing skills)

so far like his hustle and not shy to get physical under the basket at both ends

Once Yabu gets it, he has a chance to start. The kid does exactly what teams running this style offense are looking to utilize.  Guard multiple positions, hustles, passes/unselfish, stretches defenses, improving driving ability, mobile. 

We drafted this kid as a project with high upside.  He is fantastically athletic for a guy his size with room to grow, especially considering he only picked up the sport in 2012. 

I'm not saying he starts next year, he needs to earn his minutes just like everyone else, but this past month has done a lot potentially for his confidence and for Ainge and Stevens to take notice.  He can stand to improve his all-around game and sure up defensive rotations but those things are learnable as you play more and more against elite competition. 
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: RockinRyA on April 12, 2018, 04:45:25 AM
Yabu is better than Semi and Jabari is better than Nader.

I couldn't disagree more. I don't see what others do in Yabu not even a little bit. Some of you see a lite version of Draymond Green I see a lite version of Malik Rose.

that's a pretty bad comp considering Malik made 0 threes in bis entire career.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: gouki88 on April 12, 2018, 04:55:10 AM
I love him.

His offensive arsenal is pretty solid, he's a good passer and rebounder, and his defence is coming along quite nicely. Plus his athletic profile is pretty unique.

Add a goofy personality and you've got a bundle of fun
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: footey on April 12, 2018, 08:17:10 AM
Love his hustle. Needs to attack hoop more. Has Lebron like strength, like a freight train. Can’t be just a 3 and D guy, would be a waste of his size and strength.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: ChillyWilly on April 12, 2018, 08:19:31 AM
Yabu is better than Semi and Jabari is better than Nader.

I couldn't disagree more. I don't see what others do in Yabu not even a little bit. Some of you see a lite version of Draymond Green I see a lite version of Malik Rose.

that's a pretty bad comp considering Malik made 0 threes in bis entire career.

oh I see one aspect isn't perfect so the comparison is wrong. High fives!
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Tr1boy on April 18, 2018, 09:48:57 AM
nice game by the big fella

pure hustle. 

Good job by Danny playing Yabu vs Semi.  Celts needed size to offset Bucks lenth
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: td450 on April 18, 2018, 10:01:49 AM
The C's will need to shed some salary just to stay under the luxury penalty next year. We'll see how the rest of the playoffs plays out, but we might see Baynes go if the team thinks Yabu can cover his minutes. I think he can handle it. He has the potential to be a very good defender, and nobody is going to push him around, no matter how big they are.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Tr1boy on April 18, 2018, 10:06:03 AM
The C's will need to shed some salary just to stay under the luxury penalty next year. We'll see how the rest of the playoffs plays out, but we might see Baynes go if the team thinks Yabu can cover his minutes. I think he can handle it. He has the potential to be a very good defender, and nobody is going to push him around, no matter how big they are.

Not sure about resigning Baynes but I doubt Yabu can hold grounds against Gortat/Valenciuanas of the worlds

Celts still need at least one of Baynes , Monroe type size/height body next season
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: footey on April 18, 2018, 10:16:34 AM
Brad trusted Yabu to defend Freak for stretches last night, and he did well (as can be expected).

Yabu with a little more confidence offensively will be able to supplant Baynes. He has as much length when you factor in his wing span, and size.  Even if Baynes returns, I see our need for him will be diminished.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Tr1boy on April 18, 2018, 10:22:29 AM
Brad trusted Yabu to defend Freak for stretches last night, and he did well (as can be expected).

Yabu with a little more confidence offensively will be able to supplant Baynes. He has as much length when you factor in his wing span, and size.  Even if Baynes returns, I see our need for him will be diminished.

tough matchup all around

but Yabu did a solid job (not surprising) on Zeller. Boxing him out every single time

Yabus shot blocking and stealing ability is surprising to me the most
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: RockinRyA on April 18, 2018, 10:34:03 AM
Yabu is better than Semi and Jabari is better than Nader.

I couldn't disagree more. I don't see what others do in Yabu not even a little bit. Some of you see a lite version of Draymond Green I see a lite version of Malik Rose.

that's a pretty bad comp considering Malik made 0 threes in bis entire career.

oh I see one aspect isn't perfect so the comparison is wrong. High fives!

Its not just one aspect, its a huge aspect. If you cannot differentiate between a post player and a 3 and D guy you need to have your head checked. Other than some physical profile they play nothing alike.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: rondofan1255 on April 18, 2018, 03:50:48 PM
Bump after Yabu's meaningful playoff minutes last night guarding Giannis at times lol

Is he the next fan favorite in a Scal-like role, or more?  :P
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: nickagneta on April 18, 2018, 04:11:19 PM
Wasn't it Yabusele that was guarding Giannis at the start of the 2nd when Giannis put up a quick 6 and Milwaukee went off to come back from 12 back?
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: rondofan1255 on May 28, 2018, 02:11:24 PM
Think he'll be here next year?
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: BitterJim on May 28, 2018, 03:13:17 PM
Think he'll be here next year?

Yes.  Ainge isn't gonna give up on a 16th overall pick after one season just to have a vet be the 12th man instead
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: uconnceltic on May 29, 2018, 12:24:18 AM
He'll be a Celtic next year but again a number 11-12 player unless he improves his overall inside offense and gets a little quicker ie: quicker
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: gouki88 on May 29, 2018, 12:43:48 AM
Think he'll be here next year?
Without a doubt.

Rozier took a while to come along, and he's played basketball way longer than Yabu has. I really hope he stays here for a while
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Beat LA on May 29, 2018, 12:45:58 AM
Doesn't even look like an NBA player, imo. Trade him for a second rounder this year, lol ;D.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: trickybilly on May 29, 2018, 12:46:13 AM
Ahhh, the elusive Draymond Green..

Wherefore art thou still just Guerchon Yabusele?

He will have a shorter half-life than James Young. THAT is for sure.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: colincb on May 29, 2018, 12:48:54 AM
Nobody here knows. Hasn't shown us much, but we don't see much of him like BS and DA.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: mr. dee on May 29, 2018, 07:46:45 AM
Nobody here knows. Hasn't shown us much, but we don't see much of him like BS and DA.

He have shown flashes. Its not like Rozier and Bradley lit up in their rookie seasons either.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Celtics4ever on May 29, 2018, 08:04:54 AM
I think he is looking like a dud.   I hope I am wrong about it, though.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: BitterJim on May 29, 2018, 08:06:35 AM
Think he'll be here next year?
Without a doubt.

Rozier took a while to come along, and he's played basketball way longer than Yabu has. I really hope he stays here for a while

Yup. The interesting question is "will we pick up his team option for 2019-20?"

For the record, I think the answer to that is also yes, because I think we'd be able to get rid of him fairly easily if we needed to)
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: nickagneta on May 29, 2018, 08:17:34 AM
Nobody here knows. Hasn't shown us much, but we don't see much of him like BS and DA.

He have shown flashes. Its not like Rozier and Bradley lit up in their rookie seasons either.
Yeah, but Bradley and Rozier had skills along with good physical measurements for small guys. Bradley had elite NBA defensive skills and a beautiful shooting form the moment he entered the league. He built off that. Rozier had a good handle, a good shooting form, tenacity and leadership intangibles the minute he became a pro.

Yabusele just has his physical measurements. He doesn't show great rebounding or defensive prowess and his offense is atrocious.

We have to see improvement in his shot this year and an ability to box out and get rebounds as well as improve his defense this year if he is to be here in 2019-20
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: kmart12 on May 29, 2018, 08:23:29 AM
The Draymond Green comparison is lazy at best. Not every sub-6'9" power forward with guard skills is another Draymond; Draymond is an outlier and a unique one at that, who handles and passes like a PG, rebounds and protects the rim like a center, and plays all-NBA defense while posing as a threat from behind the arc (although, this year he only shot 30% from 3). He's like a combination of Boris Diaw and Dennis Rodman in the strangest, yet highly effective, way.

From his time with the Celtics, all I've seen from Yabusele is the ability to hit 3's and rebound well enough. The footage of him pre-Celtics is full of drives highlighted by quick crossovers and monstrous finishes in traffic. I don't see Yabusele's pre-NBA game translating to the NBA because his physical attributes are less incredible at this level of basketball. He has the weight and strength for sure, but his quickness and agility at this level are nothing to write home about, and that will prevent him from being the beast he was prior to the league. I thought he was a reach at the time and still feel that way now.

 
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Big333223 on May 29, 2018, 08:59:18 AM
I certainly hope he stays around. I optimistic that he can get better at NBA basketball because he still has the same tantalizing combination of strength, length, and agility that he had when he was drafted.

Yabu's development will be wrinkle worth watching next season.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on May 29, 2018, 02:16:45 PM
I think he is looking like a dud.   I hope I am wrong about it, though.

yup. maybe semi can pan out though.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: kozlodoev on May 29, 2018, 02:20:38 PM
I think he is looking like a dud.   I hope I am wrong about it, though.

yup. maybe semi can pan out though.
Semi is 6'7 and plays like he's 6'3. Cheap roster fodder, much like Yabusele.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Tr1boy on May 29, 2018, 02:26:17 PM
Needs to lose 5-7 pounds and his 3 pt shot has to get much better

He was missing open looks during garbage time. He cant afford to do this
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on May 29, 2018, 02:50:56 PM
I think he is looking like a dud.   I hope I am wrong about it, though.

yup. maybe semi can pan out though.
Semi is 6'7 and plays like he's 6'3. Cheap roster fodder, much like Yabusele.

i am not getting y hopes up that is for sure. maybe ainge can see if he cana upgrade the end of the bench. we can always improve somehere.

Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Beat LA on June 02, 2018, 02:16:33 AM
The Draymond Green comparison is lazy at best. Not every sub-6'9" power forward with guard skills is another Draymond; Draymond is an outlier and a unique one at that, who handles and passes like a PG, rebounds and protects the rim like a center, and plays all-NBA defense while posing as a threat from behind the arc (although, this year he only shot 30% from 3). He's like a combination of Boris Diaw and Dennis Rodman in the strangest, yet highly effective, way.

From his time with the Celtics, all I've seen from Yabusele is the ability to hit 3's and rebound well enough. The footage of him pre-Celtics is full of drives highlighted by quick crossovers and monstrous finishes in traffic. I don't see Yabusele's pre-NBA game translating to the NBA because his physical attributes are less incredible at this level of basketball. He has the weight and strength for sure, but his quickness and agility at this level are nothing to write home about, and that will prevent him from being the beast he was prior to the league. I thought he was a reach at the time and still feel that way now.

More like the French Anthony Bennett :-\.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: gouki88 on June 02, 2018, 03:29:53 AM
The Draymond Green comparison is lazy at best. Not every sub-6'9" power forward with guard skills is another Draymond; Draymond is an outlier and a unique one at that, who handles and passes like a PG, rebounds and protects the rim like a center, and plays all-NBA defense while posing as a threat from behind the arc (although, this year he only shot 30% from 3). He's like a combination of Boris Diaw and Dennis Rodman in the strangest, yet highly effective, way.

From his time with the Celtics, all I've seen from Yabusele is the ability to hit 3's and rebound well enough. The footage of him pre-Celtics is full of drives highlighted by quick crossovers and monstrous finishes in traffic. I don't see Yabusele's pre-NBA game translating to the NBA because his physical attributes are less incredible at this level of basketball. He has the weight and strength for sure, but his quickness and agility at this level are nothing to write home about, and that will prevent him from being the beast he was prior to the league. I thought he was a reach at the time and still feel that way now.

More like the French Anthony Bennett :-\.
That's a little bit premature.

Plus, it's not like we missed a gem after him. LeVert or Siakam would be nice pieces, but I'm not losing any sleep over missing those guys
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Birdman on June 02, 2018, 05:30:13 AM
Dud!!!! Picking these overseas guys are a huge gamble..maybe 1 out of 30 makes it to nba and have great career
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: gouki88 on June 02, 2018, 05:54:20 AM
Dud!!!! Picking these overseas guys are a huge gamble..maybe 1 out of 30 makes it to nba and have great career
Why have you given up on a rookie after ~30 games?
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: konkmv on June 02, 2018, 06:38:38 AM
I think even next year yabusele will be 14th 15th player of our roster
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: SHAQATTACK on June 02, 2018, 06:45:18 AM
Id throw him up against Sully in a " chicken Wang ". contest
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Smitty77 on June 02, 2018, 07:05:40 AM
I think he is looking like a dud.   I hope I am wrong about it, though.

yup. maybe semi can pan out though.
Semi is 6'7 and plays like he's 6'3. Cheap roster fodder, much like Yabusele.

IMHO, I have not seen a lot of "roster fodder" that can control a top 10 player in the NBA like Giannis for an entire series.  Give me Semi ALL DAY LONG!!!  Close to elite defense and a large dose of toughness.

Smitty77
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Surferdad on June 02, 2018, 07:30:49 AM
Dud!!!! Picking these overseas guys are a huge gamble..maybe 1 out of 30 makes it to nba and have great career
Why have you given up on a rookie after ~30 games?
This.  Yabu showed a few flashes and also made some bad rookie boo-boos, but has hardly been given a fair shot.

1 out of 30 doesn't sound right to me.  I think it's much higher odds of success since so few are taken and those who are taken are the cream of the crop.  Without even trying: Dirk, Tony Parker, Duncan, Ginobilli, Dennis Shroeder, Valencunas, Ilgauskas, Vucevic, Vlade Divac, Andre Kirilenko, Mutombo, Yao, Detlef Schrempf...
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Celtics4ever on June 02, 2018, 09:10:40 AM
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Yabu showed a few flashes and also made some bad rookie boo-boos, but has hardly been given a fair shot.

Few is pretty generous in this case.   Not optimistic about his progress thus far.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: makaveli on June 02, 2018, 09:17:43 AM
I saw very few “flashes”. I cant name one thing he is good at. He would probably benefit from a trade, because he will not get the opportinity to develop with the strong C’s squad. Depending on the free agency, he might find himself some time to prove himself unzil the allstar break.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Neurotic Guy on June 02, 2018, 09:34:41 AM
This  off-season seems pretty pivotal for Yabu.   If he comes to camp an improved player, I think he’ll find 10 mpg in the interest of integrating GH gradually.  If he performs well, Cs have an asset they can bring along or adds value in a trade.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Phantom255x on June 02, 2018, 09:37:06 AM
Not to sound like a jerk, but I just laugh when I see folks on here saying Yabusele "flashed lots of potential" this season and "showed some good stuff". WHEN?? Felt like he never even played much anyways (as expected) and when he did, he just bricked open looks and looked really, really sluggish out there (on both ends).

Lets cool it on the "Yabusele can be Millsap or Draymond" predictions and frankly he's going to have to put in a lot of work this off-season. I still think he's 2 years away (at minimum) from being a solid NBA contributor to be honest (sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's IMO).

I'd love to be wrong and wish the best for Yabusele, but clearly this is a pivotal offseason for him. If he does well, he can be a nice, solid role player for us along with an improved Ojeyele and co.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: A Future of Stevens on June 02, 2018, 09:50:01 AM
Not to sound like a jerk, but I just laugh when I see folks on here saying Yabusele "flashed lots of potential" this season and "showed some good stuff". WHEN?? Felt like he never even played much anyways (as expected) and when he did, he just bricked open looks and looked really, really sluggish out there (on both ends).

Lets cool it on the "Yabusele can be Millsap or Draymond" predictions and frankly he's going to have to put in a lot of work this off-season. I still think he's 2 years away (at minimum) from being a solid NBA contributor to be honest (sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's IMO).

I'd love to be wrong and wish the best for Yabusele, but clearly this is a pivotal offseason for him. If he does well, he can be a nice, solid role player for us along with an improved Ojeyele and co.

This whole post is waaaaay too harsh. His bench cheerleading game was on point. Shows a lot of potential for the dancing bear going forward. :laugh:
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Jvalin on June 02, 2018, 09:52:23 AM
dead wood (at least imo)

The longer we keep him, the more his trade value will go down.

Rozier + Yabu + #27 for the highest pick we can possibly get
(or something like that)
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: gouki88 on June 02, 2018, 09:56:36 AM
Dud!!!! Picking these overseas guys are a huge gamble..maybe 1 out of 30 makes it to nba and have great career
Why have you given up on a rookie after ~30 games?
This.  Yabu showed a few flashes and also made some bad rookie boo-boos, but has hardly been given a fair shot.

1 out of 30 doesn't sound right to me.  I think it's much higher odds of success since so few are taken and those who are taken are the cream of the crop.  Without even trying: Dirk, Tony Parker, Duncan, Ginobilli, Dennis Shroeder, Valencunas, Ilgauskas, Vucevic, Vlade Divac, Andre Kirilenko, Mutombo, Yao, Detlef Schrempf...
Agree. People have jumped the gun completely on dismissing him
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: SHAQATTACK on June 02, 2018, 10:24:41 AM
Can we replace him and Baynes with Drummond ?
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: chilidawg on June 02, 2018, 10:33:01 AM
Can we replace him and Baynes with Drummond ?

No
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: footey on June 02, 2018, 10:36:22 AM
Yabu’s future is up to him. He’s in a battle with Semi for back up minutes and Semi winning that contest to date. Yabu is longer and has more offensive upside than Semi but that alone means little. Semi by far the better versatile defender.

He should lose some weight too.

I’m still hopeful Yabu will become a contributor. With our upcoming salary demands it’s important to have players under rookie deals perform.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Fafnir on June 02, 2018, 10:39:09 AM
I don't think Semi and Guershon are competing for the same minutes not really.

Semi is a big wing, Guershon is a big Big.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: hwangjini_1 on June 02, 2018, 10:53:21 AM
Dud!!!! Picking these overseas guys are a huge gamble..maybe 1 out of 30 makes it to nba and have great career
Why have you given up on a rookie after ~30 games?
this is a common practice here, and folks do not seem eager to learn from past actions.

remember bradley's first year? he was written off by so many posters here.

remember rozier's first year? another draft mistake by ainge.

each and every season, cbers pass all encompassing, final, and absolute judgements of rookies.

as other players have shown, given time, training, and patience they sometimes pay off. i am not saying yabusele will be a star, or even a rotation player. what i am saying is that it is way to early for many of the pronouncements being posted here.

sigh....and yet once more i ask all us grasshoppers to be patient. let's revisit this thread in 2-3 years and see then.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Big333223 on June 02, 2018, 05:10:39 PM
Dud!!!! Picking these overseas guys are a huge gamble..maybe 1 out of 30 makes it to nba and have great career
Why have you given up on a rookie after ~30 games?
this is a common practice here, and folks do not seem eager to learn from past actions.

remember bradley's first year? he was written off by so many posters here.

remember rozier's first year? another draft mistake by ainge.

each and every season, cbers pass all encompassing, final, and absolute judgements of rookies.

as other players have shown, given time, training, and patience they sometimes pay off. i am not saying yabusele will be a star, or even a rotation player. what i am saying is that it is way to early for many of the pronouncements being posted here.

sigh....and yet once more i ask all us grasshoppers to be patient. let's revisit this thread in 2-3 years and see then.

This. Yabu did not look like an NBA player this season but he's got a great combination of strength and quickness and showed a lot of potential as a shooter in the D League. There's no reason to think he can't get better and become a solid-to-good player. Whether or not he does remains to be seen but I'll give him another 2 seasons to figure something out.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: footey on June 02, 2018, 05:13:47 PM
I don't think Semi and Guershon are competing for the same minutes not really.

Semi is a big wing, Guershon is a big Big.

But don’t you think Yabu list minutes due to Semi’s superior defense? I do.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Beat LA on June 02, 2018, 07:46:08 PM
The Draymond Green comparison is lazy at best. Not every sub-6'9" power forward with guard skills is another Draymond; Draymond is an outlier and a unique one at that, who handles and passes like a PG, rebounds and protects the rim like a center, and plays all-NBA defense while posing as a threat from behind the arc (although, this year he only shot 30% from 3). He's like a combination of Boris Diaw and Dennis Rodman in the strangest, yet highly effective, way.

From his time with the Celtics, all I've seen from Yabusele is the ability to hit 3's and rebound well enough. The footage of him pre-Celtics is full of drives highlighted by quick crossovers and monstrous finishes in traffic. I don't see Yabusele's pre-NBA game translating to the NBA because his physical attributes are less incredible at this level of basketball. He has the weight and strength for sure, but his quickness and agility at this level are nothing to write home about, and that will prevent him from being the beast he was prior to the league. I thought he was a reach at the time and still feel that way now.

More like the French Anthony Bennett :-\.
That's a little bit premature.

Plus, it's not like we missed a gem after him. LeVert or Siakam would be nice pieces, but I'm not losing any sleep over missing those guys

Those two are certainly gems in my book :), and they would have been great, here, imo. Ugh.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Beat LA on June 02, 2018, 07:50:30 PM
Dud!!!! Picking these overseas guys are a huge gamble..maybe 1 out of 30 makes it to nba and have great career
Why have you given up on a rookie after ~30 games?
this is a common practice here, and folks do not seem eager to learn from past actions.

remember bradley's first year? he was written off by so many posters here.

remember rozier's first year? another draft mistake by ainge.

each and every season, cbers pass all encompassing, final, and absolute judgements of rookies.

as other players have shown, given time, training, and patience they sometimes pay off. i am not saying yabusele will be a star, or even a rotation player. what i am saying is that it is way to early for many of the pronouncements being posted here.

sigh....and yet once more i ask all us grasshoppers to be patient. let's revisit this thread in 2-3 years and see then.

I wouldn't put Bradley in the same category, quite honestly, as he was hurt for the vast majority of his rookie year and then spent time rehabbing in Maine, but when he got his chance in the final game of the regular season against the Knicks, that year, he really showed out. I just don't think that the circumstances are/were remotely comparable :-\.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Sophomore on June 02, 2018, 07:58:54 PM
I would like to see what he could do if he was 20-30 pounds lighter. He’s listed at 260 now and his backside is the size of Lyons.

Quick-for-260 is not quick.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: SHAQATTACK on June 02, 2018, 08:09:19 PM
he looks 280+

his rump is TWO baseball bats wide
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: hwangjini_1 on June 02, 2018, 08:18:05 PM
he looks 280+

his rump is TWO baseball bats wide
of what possible relevance is this remark? or am i mistaken and you accidently posted an observation about charles barkley the many time all start nba player?

let's not degenerate into fat shaming ala the sully thread.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: gouki88 on June 02, 2018, 08:31:29 PM
he looks 280+

his rump is TWO baseball bats wide
of what possible relevance is this remark? or am i mistaken and you accidently posted an observation about charles barkley the many time all start nba player?

let's not degenerate into fat shaming ala the sully thread.
I think Yabu's size is actually incredible, because somehow it doesn't slow him down. He's a fantastic athlete.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Sophomore on June 02, 2018, 08:43:06 PM
he looks 280+

his rump is TWO baseball bats wide
of what possible relevance is this remark? or am i mistaken and you accidently posted an observation about charles barkley the many time all start nba player?

let's not degenerate into fat shaming ala the sully thread.
I think Yabu's size is actually incredible, because somehow it doesn't slow him down. He's a fantastic athlete.

He is a fantastic athlete - as is anybody who spends a minute on an NBA court. But physics is unforgiving. Your mileage may vary, but I see a guy who has a lot of inertia when he starts moving and might be a better player at a lower weight.

It’s not fat-shaming. I’m not saying he should be ashamed. I’m saying he might be a better player at a lower weight.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: kmart12 on June 02, 2018, 10:26:12 PM
he looks 280+

his rump is TWO baseball bats wide
of what possible relevance is this remark? or am i mistaken and you accidently posted an observation about charles barkley the many time all start nba player?

let's not degenerate into fat shaming ala the sully thread.
I think Yabu's size is actually incredible, because somehow it doesn't slow him down. He's a fantastic athlete.

He is a fantastic athlete - as is anybody who spends a minute on an NBA court. But physics is unforgiving. Your mileage may vary, but I see a guy who has a lot of inertia when he starts moving and might be a better player at a lower weight.

It’s not fat-shaming. I’m not saying he should be ashamed. I’m saying he might be a better player at a lower weight.

Right. We are literally talking about weight and the percentage of that weight which is not helpful for athletic performance (like say, 20 pounds of body fat). Players like Sully and Big Baby (former Celtics for reference) were limited by their excess weight. The same could be suggested (although not proven yet) for Yabusele.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: vjcsmoke on June 03, 2018, 02:44:03 AM
Yabu was lost out there this season.  He couldn't even displace Ojeyle who showed much better game awareness and actually could be counted on for some pressure relief minutes.

Yabu was only inserted during garbage time when there was no chance he could impact the game in a negative way.

Yabu really needs to come along in year 2.  We could use his bulk and strength to defend the low post and the paint but... he just hasn't shown much defensive acumen yet tbh.  On this team, you earn minutes with defense first and he just hasn't done it well enough to earn the floor timee.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: ederson on June 03, 2018, 04:27:08 AM
He got drafted and then chose to  play in China instead staying of in Europe ... That says it all for me
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: LarBrd33 on June 03, 2018, 05:37:10 AM
He got drafted and then chose to  play in China instead staying of in Europe ... That says it all for me
We drafted him specifically because we could stash him overseas.  We didn't have a roster spot for him. 

But you're right that China was a peculiar choice.  A wasted year of development. The China league is worse than G-League.

He might end up nothing, but fwiw he had the same rookie program that Rozier and Avery Bradley did.  Those guys got basically no minutes as rookies and played in G-League.   Don't be stunned if Yabu suddenly proves to be a solid player in a couple years.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: SHAQATTACK on June 03, 2018, 08:20:03 AM
he looks 280+

his rump is TWO baseball bats wide
of what possible relevance is this remark? or am i mistaken and you accidently posted an observation about charles barkley the many time all start nba player?

let's not degenerate into fat shaming ala the sully thread.


he is reaching that age where controling your weight becomes a bigger challenged each year .  His body type is a weight time bomb.   We shall see.  ;D
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: dreamgreen on June 03, 2018, 08:34:05 AM
Because he's young and on a cheap contract he will get a chance to work hard and earn PT. Not sure if he can play or not but right now hes a good 11-15 bench guy haha.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: LarBrd33 on June 03, 2018, 08:16:46 PM
Rookie Avery Bradley (19th pick):

- NBA season: 1.7 points, 0.5 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0.3 steals, 0 blocks with 34%/0%/50% shooting - 31 games

- G-League season: 17.1 points, 4.8 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 3 steals 45%/37%/86% - 9 games

Rookie Terry Rozier (16th pick):

- NBA season: 1.8 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 0.2 steals, 0 blocks 27%/22%/80% shooting - 39 games

- G-League season: 19.4 points, 6.4 rebounds, 8 assists, 1.9 steals, 39%/34%/78% - 14 games

Rookie Yabusele (16th pick):

- NBA season: 2.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.5 assists, 0.1 steals, 0.2 blocks, 43%/32%/68% - 33 games

- G-League season: 20.3 points, 7.9 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.2 steals, 1.7 blocks 49%/36%/80% - 14 games

....

He could end up nothing.  He could end up something.  I'm excited to see him in Summer League if he participates.  After Rozier's rookie season he showed up in Summer League and was literally a top 2 player in the entire summer league.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Ogaju on June 03, 2018, 08:20:47 PM
Rookie Avery Bradley (19th pick):

- NBA season: 1.7 points, 0.5 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0.3 steals, 0 blocks with 34%/0%/50% shooting - 31 games

- G-League season: 17.1 points, 4.8 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 3 steals 45%/37%/86% - 9 games

Rookie Terry Rozier (16th pick):

- NBA season: 1.8 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 0.2 steals, 0 blocks 27%/22%/80% shooting - 39 games

- G-League season: 19.4 points, 6.4 rebounds, 8 assists, 1.9 steals, 39%/34%/78% - 14 games

Rookie Yabusele (16th pick):

- NBA season: 2.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.5 assists, 0.1 steals, 0.2 blocks, 43%/32%/68% - 33 games

- G-League season: 20.3 points, 7.9 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.2 steals, 1.7 blocks 49%/36%/80% - 14 games

....

He could end up nothing.  He could end up something.  I'm excited to see him in Summer League if he participates.  After Rozier's rookie season he showed up in Summer League and was literally a top 2 player in the entire summer league.

His numbers compare well with those two..
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: gouki88 on June 03, 2018, 08:27:28 PM
Rookie Avery Bradley (19th pick):

- NBA season: 1.7 points, 0.5 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0.3 steals, 0 blocks with 34%/0%/50% shooting - 31 games

- G-League season: 17.1 points, 4.8 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 3 steals 45%/37%/86% - 9 games

Rookie Terry Rozier (16th pick):

- NBA season: 1.8 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 0.2 steals, 0 blocks 27%/22%/80% shooting - 39 games

- G-League season: 19.4 points, 6.4 rebounds, 8 assists, 1.9 steals, 39%/34%/78% - 14 games

Rookie Yabusele (16th pick):

- NBA season: 2.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.5 assists, 0.1 steals, 0.2 blocks, 43%/32%/68% - 33 games

- G-League season: 20.3 points, 7.9 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.2 steals, 1.7 blocks 49%/36%/80% - 14 games

....

He could end up nothing.  He could end up something.  I'm excited to see him in Summer League if he participates.  After Rozier's rookie season he showed up in Summer League and was literally a top 2 player in the entire summer league.
All aboard the Dancing Bear hype train!
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: bdm860 on June 03, 2018, 08:53:36 PM
I could not be more disappointed in you all.

Here we have a thread that's been active for 2+ months and is about to hit 7 pages, with some of the most annoying, obnoxious, knowledgeable, insightful, die-hard, and greatest posters I know.

And not one of you noticed the dude's name is spelled wrong in the thread title?


Disgraceful.  What has become of CelticsBlog?  Wally Szczerbiak is probably turning over in his grave right now.  No wonder Ojeleye doesn't go by his full name, ya'll can't handle it!
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: tstorey_97 on June 03, 2018, 09:19:59 PM
I always wondered about his foot movement which is extraordinary. When he was young he trained as a boxer.

I sort of agree with the "Rozier needed time to develop" thoughts as applied here. In his rookie season Jaylen Brown "watched" the game for the first half of the season. Just don't know if Stevens will ever give Yabusele minutes...way too many good players in front of him. 
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: KungPoweChicken on June 03, 2018, 10:28:43 PM
I saw absolutely nothing to like or to be impressed with from Yabusele yet.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: sirnastee on June 04, 2018, 01:33:02 AM
I haven't seen enough him on court to make any judgments, but.... Have you seen his celebrations on the bench?  They are so great.  Whenever someone scores, the dancing bear makes some sort of celebration imitating how the scorer scored.  If someone does a floater, he does this floater motion dance... If someone makes a 3, he starts doing some 3 pointer dance.  I always look toward the bench to see the dancing bear's celebrations now. 
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Androslav on June 04, 2018, 06:55:29 AM
I haven't seen enough him on court to make any judgments, but.... Have you seen his celebrations on the bench?  They are so great.  Whenever someone scores, the dancing bear makes some sort of celebration imitating how the scorer scored.  If someone does a floater, he does this floater motion dance... If someone makes a 3, he starts doing some 3 pointer dance.  I always look toward the bench to see the dancing bear's celebrations now.
I love your enthusiasm, but I expect more than dancing form a middle 1st then what now looks like a soon out-of-the-league prospect. Slava Medvedenko/Mark Madsen/Robert Sacre types of cheerleaders can be found lower in the draft.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: gouki88 on June 04, 2018, 07:10:02 AM
I haven't seen enough him on court to make any judgments, but.... Have you seen his celebrations on the bench?  They are so great.  Whenever someone scores, the dancing bear makes some sort of celebration imitating how the scorer scored.  If someone does a floater, he does this floater motion dance... If someone makes a 3, he starts doing some 3 pointer dance.  I always look toward the bench to see the dancing bear's celebrations now.
I love your enthusiasm, but I expect more than dancing form a middle 1st then what now looks like a soon out-of-the-league prospect. Slava Medvedenko/Mark Madsen/Robert Sacre types of cheerleaders can be found lower in the draft.
He's performing almost identically to other mid-first round guys we've picked over the last 10 years. Have you forgotten how trash AB and Rozier were in their rookie years?

Cut him some slack
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: flybono on June 04, 2018, 12:04:29 PM
I saw absolutely nothing to like or to be impressed with from Yabusele yet.

Better suited for the NFL. When he takes the court all you see is his arse!
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Sophomore on June 04, 2018, 12:24:46 PM
Rookie Avery Bradley (19th pick):

- NBA season: 1.7 points, 0.5 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0.3 steals, 0 blocks with 34%/0%/50% shooting - 31 games

- G-League season: 17.1 points, 4.8 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 3 steals 45%/37%/86% - 9 games

Rookie Terry Rozier (16th pick):

- NBA season: 1.8 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 0.2 steals, 0 blocks 27%/22%/80% shooting - 39 games

- G-League season: 19.4 points, 6.4 rebounds, 8 assists, 1.9 steals, 39%/34%/78% - 14 games

Rookie Yabusele (16th pick):

- NBA season: 2.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.5 assists, 0.1 steals, 0.2 blocks, 43%/32%/68% - 33 games

- G-League season: 20.3 points, 7.9 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.2 steals, 1.7 blocks 49%/36%/80% - 14 games

....

He could end up nothing.  He could end up something.  I'm excited to see him in Summer League if he participates.  After Rozier's rookie season he showed up in Summer League and was literally a top 2 player in the entire summer league.

Probably the best case for optimism I've seen so far. Hope you are right. If he's determined to make it, he's committing himself this summer and gunning for Marcus Morris' job - either next year or latest the year after. There's a pathway for him if he can show enough.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Beat LA on June 04, 2018, 09:54:26 PM
If I am trading Rozier for a big I want a player like Dwayne Dedmon or JaMychal Green coming back. Not a complete scrub like Bender.

Lol. This is hilarious ;D.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Beat LA on June 05, 2018, 06:16:47 PM
he looks 280+

his rump is TWO baseball bats wide

I've got it - if basketball doesn't pan out, he can always be Nicki Minaj's stunt double, lol ;D.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: bellerephon on June 05, 2018, 06:28:56 PM
I saw absolutely nothing to like or to be impressed with from Yabusele yet.

He's extremely raw, and is far from being a positive impact, but I saw of couple of things that could be useful if he develops, which is by no means a sure thing.

First of all, he's a big that might be able to shoot the 3. He's not there yet, but the chance is there.

Secondly, he has quick feet for a big and perhaps could develop into a guy that can switch onto wings on the perimeter.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: EJPLAYA on June 05, 2018, 06:49:40 PM
Absolutely not worth his roster spot. Has no NBA level skills. All potential. Won't be in the league in 3 years. He's a very poor man's Jared Sullinger. Cut him, Nader, Bird, and look for new upside players.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: KungPoweChicken on June 05, 2018, 06:56:48 PM
Absolutely not worth his roster spot. Has no NBA level skills. All potential. Won't be in the league in 3 years. He's a very poor man's Jared Sullinger. Cut him, Nader, Bird, and look for new upside players.


He looks shorter and fatter than Sullinger.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Boris Badenov on June 05, 2018, 07:03:30 PM
Rookie Avery Bradley (19th pick):

- NBA season: 1.7 points, 0.5 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0.3 steals, 0 blocks with 34%/0%/50% shooting - 31 games

- G-League season: 17.1 points, 4.8 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 3 steals 45%/37%/86% - 9 games

Rookie Terry Rozier (16th pick):

- NBA season: 1.8 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 0.2 steals, 0 blocks 27%/22%/80% shooting - 39 games

- G-League season: 19.4 points, 6.4 rebounds, 8 assists, 1.9 steals, 39%/34%/78% - 14 games

Rookie Yabusele (16th pick):

- NBA season: 2.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.5 assists, 0.1 steals, 0.2 blocks, 43%/32%/68% - 33 games

- G-League season: 20.3 points, 7.9 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.2 steals, 1.7 blocks 49%/36%/80% - 14 games

....

He could end up nothing.  He could end up something.  I'm excited to see him in Summer League if he participates.  After Rozier's rookie season he showed up in Summer League and was literally a top 2 player in the entire summer league.

I thought we weren't fielding a SL team this year...
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Surferdad on June 05, 2018, 07:13:15 PM

I thought we weren't fielding a SL team this year...
That so?  It would kind of make sense.  Tatum and Brown don’t need it.  Nader, Bird and Allen are likely gone. Running a team just for Guershon, Semi and 1st round pick would be kind of expensive. There is zero chance that other players make the team.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: saltlover on June 05, 2018, 07:56:18 PM

I thought we weren't fielding a SL team this year...
That so?  It would kind of make sense.  Tatum and Brown don’t need it.  Nader, Bird and Allen are likely gone. Running a team just for Guershon, Semi and 1st round pick would be kind of expensive. There is zero chance that other players make the team.

No idea why you think Allen is gone.  He was signed to a 2-year two-way contract, so there’s no reason to move on at this point, especially given the Celtics have no 2nd round picks.  Bird won’t likely participate because he’s a restricted free agent, but I’d be very surprised if he weren’t in green next year, either in Boston or as a 2-way player again.  He looked quite useful.  Nader is 50/50, but moving on from him will be more expensive against the tax than keeping him, so he’s got that in his favor.  And certainly the Celtics will want to work out a few players for training camp invites and perhaps a 2-way contract.

I’ve seen no news that the Celtics wouldn’t field a summer league team, and I’d be very surprised if that were the case.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: bellerephon on June 05, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
Absolutely not worth his roster spot. Has no NBA level skills. All potential. Won't be in the league in 3 years. He's a very poor man's Jared Sullinger. Cut him, Nader, Bird, and look for new upside players.
I wouldn't pass up a player with real value or upside just to keep Yabu on the roster, but I wouldn't cut him just to put a warm body on the bench. There's nothing wrong with keeping a guy with a little potential around to see if it pans out. Maybe he won't be in the league in three years, or maybe he'll develop into a useful player. Silly to cut him unless you have a guy that you need that spot for.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Kuberski33 on June 05, 2018, 09:11:37 PM
He's proven that he has 2 NBA skills - he can rebound a little bit and he fully understands the concept of NBA Garbage Time when he (along with Nader) launch 3 after 3 when sent in to mop up games.  Other than that he's shown nothing. 

At some point he's got to make some real progress or he'll go the way of James Young.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: SHAQATTACK on June 05, 2018, 09:12:43 PM
Absolutely not worth his roster spot. Has no NBA level skills. All potential. Won't be in the league in 3 years. He's a very poor man's Jared Sullinger. Cut him, Nader, Bird, and look for new upside players.

i like the way you think ..


just more JJJ , Young , etc


Lets keep sifting though the dirt , till we find a nugget of gold.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: spikelovetheCelts on June 06, 2018, 11:28:47 AM
Absolutely not worth his roster spot. Has no NBA level skills. All potential. Won't be in the league in 3 years. He's a very poor man's Jared Sullinger. Cut him, Nader, Bird, and look for new upside players.

i like the way you think ..


just more JJJ , Young , etc


Lets keep sifting though the dirt , till we find a nugget of gold.
He has made some moves others can not do. I see no way he does not stay through Next year. If he has the right teacher he can get there IMO. Anyone saying he has no talent is wrong he just does not understand what he can do at the moment. He is very teachable I have read and wants to be good. Rozier was listened and look where he is now. He has the right size for small ball the league is going to now.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: ederson on June 06, 2018, 11:40:06 AM
Absolutely not worth his roster spot. Has no NBA level skills. All potential. Won't be in the league in 3 years. He's a very poor man's Jared Sullinger. Cut him, Nader, Bird, and look for new upside players.

i like the way you think ..


just more JJJ , Young , etc


Lets keep sifting though the dirt , till we find a nugget of gold.
He has made some moves others can not do. I see no way he does not stay through Next year. If he has the right teacher he can get there IMO. Anyone saying he has no talent is wrong he just does not understand what he can do at the moment. He is very teachable I have read and wants to be good. Rozier was listened and look where he is now. He has the right size for small ball the league is going to now.

Just wanting to be good doesn't mean a thing. He should mean too and as I wrote earlier in this thread instead of getting ready for the NBA he choose to play in China.  Even If the team wanted to stash him  there were plenty of teams in Europe he could have played for but he chose the fattest contract.. I highly doubt he has the mentality to make it in the nba
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: rondofan1255 on June 07, 2018, 01:09:34 PM
I saw absolutely nothing to like or to be impressed with from Yabusele yet.

Me neither.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: saltlover on June 07, 2018, 01:37:22 PM
Absolutely not worth his roster spot. Has no NBA level skills. All potential. Won't be in the league in 3 years. He's a very poor man's Jared Sullinger. Cut him, Nader, Bird, and look for new upside players.

i like the way you think ..


just more JJJ , Young , etc


Lets keep sifting though the dirt , till we find a nugget of gold.
He has made some moves others can not do. I see no way he does not stay through Next year. If he has the right teacher he can get there IMO. Anyone saying he has no talent is wrong he just does not understand what he can do at the moment. He is very teachable I have read and wants to be good. Rozier was listened and look where he is now. He has the right size for small ball the league is going to now.

Just wanting to be good doesn't mean a thing. He should mean too and as I wrote earlier in this thread instead of getting ready for the NBA he choose to play in China.  Even If the team wanted to stash him  there were plenty of teams in Europe he could have played for but he chose the fattest contract.. I highly doubt he has the mentality to make it in the nba

The Celtics helped steer him towards China because their season ended much earlier than Europe, so that they could bring him over to the US afterwards if necessary.  He got hurt at the end of his season, and so was only able to play a couple games in Maine.  But going to China was a mutual decision between Yabusele and the Celtics, and not merely one motivated by a paycheck.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: liam on June 07, 2018, 01:41:42 PM
Absolutely not worth his roster spot. Has no NBA level skills. All potential. Won't be in the league in 3 years. He's a very poor man's Jared Sullinger. Cut him, Nader, Bird, and look for new upside players.

i like the way you think ..


just more JJJ , Young , etc


Lets keep sifting though the dirt , till we find a nugget of gold.
He has made some moves others can not do. I see no way he does not stay through Next year. If he has the right teacher he can get there IMO. Anyone saying he has no talent is wrong he just does not understand what he can do at the moment. He is very teachable I have read and wants to be good. Rozier was listened and look where he is now. He has the right size for small ball the league is going to now.

He needs an injection of confidence and aggression. The Bear is huge and very fast.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Big333223 on June 07, 2018, 05:32:11 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Monkhouse on June 07, 2018, 05:55:49 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.

Same here, Tomasz is the man.

I liked the comment someone made when someone said Yabusele is that player with the Hall of Fame Pick and Pop badge lol.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: kozlodoev on June 07, 2018, 06:08:45 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: nickagneta on June 08, 2018, 01:50:25 PM
Rookie Avery Bradley (19th pick):

- NBA season: 1.7 points, 0.5 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0.3 steals, 0 blocks with 34%/0%/50% shooting - 31 games

- G-League season: 17.1 points, 4.8 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 3 steals 45%/37%/86% - 9 games

Rookie Terry Rozier (16th pick):

- NBA season: 1.8 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 0.2 steals, 0 blocks 27%/22%/80% shooting - 39 games

- G-League season: 19.4 points, 6.4 rebounds, 8 assists, 1.9 steals, 39%/34%/78% - 14 games

Rookie Yabusele (16th pick):

- NBA season: 2.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.5 assists, 0.1 steals, 0.2 blocks, 43%/32%/68% - 33 games

- G-League season: 20.3 points, 7.9 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.2 steals, 1.7 blocks 49%/36%/80% - 14 games

....

He could end up nothing.  He could end up something.  I'm excited to see him in Summer League if he participates.  After Rozier's rookie season he showed up in Summer League and was literally a top 2 player in the entire summer league.
Not going to look up the numbers but some other picks that looked like crap in their rookie year but had good G-League years:

R.J. Hunter
James Young
Jordan Mickey
Abdel Nader (good G-League last year awful rookie year this year)
Fab Melo

So we will need to see about Yabusele. I really think he could go either way....good NBA player or complete washout. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: libermaniac on June 08, 2018, 02:13:36 PM
Unless/until he's able to lose another 15-20 lbs, I just don't see him amounting to anything.  He lumbers way too much for today's NBA.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Big333223 on June 11, 2018, 08:20:29 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: gouki88 on June 11, 2018, 08:28:21 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: nickagneta on June 11, 2018, 08:52:53 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: sdceltsfan on June 11, 2018, 09:02:32 PM
Yabu needs to shed 15-20 lbs, work on conditioning and leaping, find a coach who can teach him the offense and rotationa, get a better handle, and work on in-game shooting situations...

So yeah, pretty much everything... 😬
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: smokeablount on June 11, 2018, 09:23:58 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: saltlover on June 11, 2018, 09:27:04 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.

Heck, Phil Pressey wasn’t even drafted!
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: nickagneta on June 11, 2018, 09:28:46 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.
Considering he showed me as much in his first year as any of those guys, it sure seems like a fair comparison to me.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Celtics4ever on June 11, 2018, 09:37:59 PM
Quote
Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

That is not saying much.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: saltlover on June 11, 2018, 09:43:32 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.
Considering he showed me as much in his first year as any of those guys, it sure seems like a fair comparison to me.

All of whom looked better than rookie Avery Bradley.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: nickagneta on June 11, 2018, 09:59:25 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.
Considering he showed me as much in his first year as any of those guys, it sure seems like a fair comparison to me.

All of whom looked better than rookie Avery Bradley.
Yup, and Rozier looked pretty awful his rookie year too. Not saying Yabu couldn't break out and be someone just that Celtics fans have seen a lot of rookies that suck their rookie years and thats why many aren't willing to have a lot of faith in Yabusele. They have seen rookie suckitude that became nothing a lot. So its not surprising if a bunch of people see what Yabu has done and doesn't have faith he will turn it around.

I hope Yabusele makes major progress and becomes a heck of a player. But unlike Bradley who was one of the best high schoolers coming out the year before he came out, Tatum and Brown who were top of the draft talents and Rozier who showed amazing growth between his freshman and sophomore seasons and became one of the better college players his last year, Yabusele has no such pedigree....much like the players I listed.

I have more faith in Ojeleye becoming a top rotation player for this team than I do Yabusele.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: gouki88 on June 11, 2018, 10:05:49 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.
Considering he showed me as much in his first year as any of those guys, it sure seems like a fair comparison to me.

All of whom looked better than rookie Avery Bradley.
So really, all we can gather is that it's too early to judge Yabu
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: smokeablount on June 11, 2018, 10:16:50 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.
Considering he showed me as much in his first year as any of those guys, it sure seems like a fair comparison to me.

All of whom looked better than rookie Avery Bradley.

Exactly. And as LarBrd showed, he’s right there in stats, age and draft slot with AB and Rozier. Both much better comps for Yabu based on those things than Lester Hudson.

I’m not sure what to expect of Yabu, but I know I haven’t gotten enough of a look.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: nickagneta on June 11, 2018, 10:29:50 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.
Considering he showed me as much in his first year as any of those guys, it sure seems like a fair comparison to me.

All of whom looked better than rookie Avery Bradley.

Exactly. And as LarBrd showed, he’s right there in stats, age and draft slot with AB and Rozier. Both much better comps for Yabu based on those things than Lester Hudson.

I’m not sure what to expect of Yabu, but I know I haven’t gotten enough of a look.
Take a look at the stat comps of AB and Rozier that Larbrd put out and take a look at the stats from G League and NBA their first years for players like Hunter, Jordan, Young, Melo, and others I mentioned. Really little difference. The difference is how they develop their second year. If Yabu has a big developmental year this year with a big leap forward, yeah, then he is more like AB and Rozier. If not, I expect him to be just like the others I have listed.

Unfortunately, Yabusele doesn't have long to prove he has "it", because if he doesn't show it next year, the year after the Cs are replacing him with one of their very many draft picks, and Yabu will be gone.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Beat LA on June 11, 2018, 10:43:05 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

You mean, the guy who was already the best all around/pure point guard on our team at the time of his drafting, LOL? ;) ;D #NotExactlyMyFinestHour *facepalm*

On a slightly more serious note ;D, you should probably also add Ben Bentil to that list. Sigh :-\.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Beat LA on June 11, 2018, 10:45:52 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.
Considering he showed me as much in his first year as any of those guys, it sure seems like a fair comparison to me.

All of whom looked better than rookie Avery Bradley.

Dood ;D, AB's was a completely different case.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: hwangjini_1 on June 11, 2018, 11:00:39 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.
Considering he showed me as much in his first year as any of those guys, it sure seems like a fair comparison to me.

All of whom looked better than rookie Avery Bradley.

Dood ;D, AB's was a completely different case.
yeah, more like rozier's.....wait a minute.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: smokeablount on June 11, 2018, 11:10:44 PM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.
Considering he showed me as much in his first year as any of those guys, it sure seems like a fair comparison to me.

All of whom looked better than rookie Avery Bradley.

Exactly. And as LarBrd showed, he’s right there in stats, age and draft slot with AB and Rozier. Both much better comps for Yabu based on those things than Lester Hudson.

I’m not sure what to expect of Yabu, but I know I haven’t gotten enough of a look.
Take a look at the stat comps of AB and Rozier that Larbrd put out and take a look at the stats from G League and NBA their first years for players like Hunter, Jordan, Young, Melo, and others I mentioned. Really little difference. The difference is how they develop their second year. If Yabu has a big developmental year this year with a big leap forward, yeah, then he is more like AB and Rozier. If not, I expect him to be just like the others I have listed.

Unfortunately, Yabusele doesn't have long to prove he has "it", because if he doesn't show it next year, the year after the Cs are replacing him with one of their very many draft picks, and Yabu will be gone.

Obviously I agree about the second year. I simply said it doesn’t make sense to compare a large physical teenage freak from France nearly drafted in the lottery to a tiny guard and college senior drafted outside the top 55. No one who is paid to think basketball would compare them.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: mr. dee on June 11, 2018, 11:15:37 PM
People wanted Rozier to be shipped out even in his sophomore year. Patience.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Chief Macho on June 11, 2018, 11:23:48 PM
he is an odd player to project.    not sure he can even run full speed on the court without bulldozing  thru guys.  he also runs on his toes or something weird.   i think he can shoot eventually.  probably should go low carb.   
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: Beat LA on June 12, 2018, 12:55:05 AM
God bless Tomasz Kordylewski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdEfXaqf1_Y

Obviously a highlight package is just that but I think there is real NBA talent there. Yes, sometimes Yabu looks like a kid that lost his parents at the mall but he's a rookie, JR Smith still looks like that and he's 32.

If Yabu can adjust to the speed of the game, mentally, his quickness and soft hands coupled with his strength and length will make him, at the least, a valuable rotation player in the NBA. The mental stuff will be his hurdle.
Did we really need to see a 5 1/2 min video of Yabusele shooting threes? I mean, this is by far his best skill, and he only made 32% on three pointers last season.

Let's face it, 6'7 PFs that move as if they're 7'7 and play as if they're 5'7 are not really destined for great NBA careers.

That's true. That's also a grossly inaccurate description of Yabusele.
Of course it is. What do you expect from CB when a rookie doesn’t perform up to their weird unrealistic standards?
Abdel Nader
James Young
R.J. Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kadeem Allen
Demetrius Jackson
Phil Pressey
JaJuan Johnson
Fab Melo
Luke Harangody
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Henry Walker
Gabe Pruitt

Cs fans have reason for not believing every player the Celtics draft aren't that good. Yabusele showed as much in his rookie season as most if not all of these guys.

Draft slot isn’t everything, but Yabu was drafted higher than all these guys, way higher than all but Young really. He was also a teenager at the time, not a college junior or older like half these guys. Comparing him to Lester Hudson just doesn’t really make sense.
Considering he showed me as much in his first year as any of those guys, it sure seems like a fair comparison to me.

All of whom looked better than rookie Avery Bradley.

Dood ;D, AB's was a completely different case.
yeah, more like rozier's.....wait a minute.

I respectfully disagree.
Title: Re: Guershon Yabusele
Post by: rondofan1255 on September 14, 2018, 01:34:49 PM
9/13:

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Guerschon Yabusele was at the Celtics' practice facility today with his left hand wrapped.

https://twitter.com/BDCCeltics/status/1040414549487362048