Shavlik: Today is decision time

[Yogi]

Six pages of debate on a guy who's played 305 minutes of NBA ball in the last six years. Yep, I guess we're in rebuilding mode...

Honestly, I think it is just a symptom of the worst part of the off season.  After draft, most of free agency and summer league but before training camp.  At this point, I'm happy to talk about anything related to basketball. 

[hwangjini_1]

Six pages of debate on a guy who's played 305 minutes of NBA ball in the last six years. Yep, I guess we're in rebuilding mode...

plus the draft and summer league have ended, but training camp and the regular season are not here yet. we have to blog and blah about something. 

at least this thread involves some stats and analysis. those are nice to see.

[Boris Badenov]

Six pages of debate on a guy who's played 305 minutes of NBA ball in the last six years. Yep, I guess we're in rebuilding mode...

Honestly, I think it is just a symptom of the worst part of the off season.  After draft, most of free agency and summer league but before training camp.  At this point, I'm happy to talk about anything related to basketball. 

plus the draft and summer league have ended, but training camp and the regular season are not here yet. we have to blog and blah about something. 

at least this thread involves some stats and analysis. those are nice to see.

I agree with you both. It's a slow time of year. But (and maybe I'm remembering things differently in hindsight) I think at the same point in 09-10 we were probably talking about what it would take to get back to the Finals.

Not that I'm complaining. I'm here for the long haul.

I'm with you also hwangjini on the level of discussion. For me, overall there's been a big uptick in the last few weeks, across the board.

Given the choice, I'd certainly rather discuss Shav's per-36 averages than any aspect of the Doc soap opera, for example. I guess that's a positive development.

[Cman]

Six pages of debate on a guy who's played 305 minutes of NBA ball in the last six years. Yep, I guess we're in rebuilding mode...

The ten pages on a Brazilian center who has never played in the NBA didn't clue you to that already???

[LooseCannon]

I don't think anyone has really answered this, but if the choice is between waiving Shavlik Randolph or sending out a second round pick to get rid of Jordan Crawford, who would rather keep Randolph and who would rather keep the pick?

[Chris]

I don't think anyone has really answered this, but if the choice is between waiving Shavlik Randolph or sending out a second round pick to get rid of Jordan Crawford, who would rather keep Randolph and who would rather keep the pick?

If thats all it takes to get rid of Crawford, I think it might already have been done.  But, to play along, I send out Crawford and the pick everytime.

[Yogi]

The Celtics will have 3 elite rebounders this year.  Jared Sullinger, Kris Humphries and Shavlik Randolph.  I'm really looking forward to that.  I think Danny can move Crawford and Randolph for nothing any time he wants.  I think he is waiting for the best deal as he doesn't have to do anything for almost 3 months.

[Interceptor]

The Celtics will have 3 elite rebounders this year.  Jared Sullinger, Kris Humphries and Shavlik Randolph.  I'm really looking forward to that.

Indeed. We'll probably lead the league in offensive rebounds, from the combination of 1) people who are elite rebounders and 2) people who hurl up bricks. Wallace, Bradley, Crawford/Brooks and Rondo will be feeding Sully, Hump, and Shav.

This post is only half-kidding.

[kozlodoev]

I don't think anyone has really answered this, but if the choice is between waiving Shavlik Randolph or sending out a second round pick to get rid of Jordan Crawford, who would rather keep Randolph and who would rather keep the pick?

Players ahead of Randolph in the rotation include Sullinger, Olynyk, Bass, and Humphries. Aside from that, Faverani and Melo are under contract. Randolph is 30 years old, isn't better than any of the listed players, and can be cut for no cost. Not only am I not giving up resources to keep him on the roster, but I'm amazed he hasn't been waived yet.

[kozlodoev]

The Celtics will have 3 elite rebounders this year.  Jared Sullinger, Kris Humphries and Shavlik Randolph.  I'm really looking forward to that.

Indeed. We'll probably lead the league in offensive rebounds, from the combination of 1) people who are elite rebounders and 2) people who hurl up bricks. Wallace, Bradley, Crawford/Brooks and Rondo will be feeding Sully, Hump, and Shav.

This post is only half-kidding.

Yes, in the rebounding half.

[Interceptor]

Yes, in the rebounding half.

I was just rolling with it. Maybe it's one elite and two "pretty good". Shav and Sully do seem to have a nose for the ORebs, though.

Now I need to find out who Don Chaney is.

[kozlodoev]

Yes, in the rebounding half.

I was just rolling with it. Maybe it's one elite and two "pretty good". Shav and Sully do seem to have a nose for the ORebs, though.

Now I need to find out who Don Chaney is.

I'd go with one pretty good and two decent.

[Yogi]

Yes, in the rebounding half.

I was just rolling with it. Maybe it's one elite and two "pretty good". Shav and Sully do seem to have a nose for the ORebs, though.

Now I need to find out who Don Chaney is.

I'd go with one pretty good and two decent.

Last year, all three of them are were in the top 40 of all NBA players in rebounding rate.  Shavlik is 11th in the league.  Kris Humpries is 30th.  Sullinger is 37th.  KG for comparison was 79th.  For power-forwards they are ranked 4th, 10th and 14th.  KG comes in at 32nd.

[gar]

Humphries more of a one trick poney. If he stays you can bet it is to fill in once Humphries is traded for a PG or SF. Much more versatile which raises the question of how Humphries is making so much in the first place.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

I don't think anyone has really answered this, but if the choice is between waiving Shavlik Randolph or sending out a second round pick to get rid of Jordan Crawford, who would rather keep Randolph and who would rather keep the pick?

Players ahead of Randolph in the rotation include Sullinger, Olynyk, Bass, and Humphries. Aside from that, Faverani and Melo are under contract. Randolph is 30 years old, isn't better than any of the listed players, and can be cut for no cost. Not only am I not giving up resources to keep him on the roster, but I'm amazed he hasn't been waived yet.

I'm not convinced that Melo is better than Shav. Better shot blocker? Yes. Better player? I'm skeptical. He certainly seems less coordinated than Shav.