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Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #525 on: February 23, 2016, 12:34:21 AM »

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If he passed it up and Isaiah missed, there would still have been people clammering for smart to be a leader, and to take the big shot. I think he still would have gotten a bit of hate either way.

Oh of course not I'm sure this guy would've been singing Smarts praises.  If he passed he would have maybe been slightly not void of talent perhaps.
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Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #526 on: February 23, 2016, 12:34:26 AM »

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He should be called out for the flop. It was egregious.

The final shot was whatever. Passing it to IT would probably have been slightly higher %, but it was a crap shot either way with 5 seconds on the clock and you can see why he wantd to try.
Yep love Smart's passion but I hate players who flop. Wish he would knock it off.

Also, it's ok to embellish a charge call. But to fake an elbow hitting you is trying to cheat by getting a bogus call. If I was Stevens, I would sit him when he pulls some kind of stunt like that.

Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #527 on: February 23, 2016, 12:36:59 AM »

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Snakehead, he's a poor shooter, he can't finish around the basket using angles, and he dribbles the ball from his stomach. He has no finesse. I define "talent" as these skills. He's a great competitor, a good athlete due to his size. He's a winner. But he lacks pure basketball skill. Why is that so crazy and blasphemous?

IT doesn't finish at the rim due to his size or athleticism... he's talented. He creates angles and goes high off the glass. Contorts his body. Lays it up with a soft touch. Smart can't do these things. He lobs it like it's a bowling ball covered in baby powder.
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Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #528 on: February 23, 2016, 12:39:13 AM »

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Can't blame posters for being a bit irritated.


Or I don't know... just you as always.  Your song and dance is tired.  Don't expect to not be a joke on here when you say Smart is void of talent.
lol dude it helps when you quote the right person.

I never said that. Just proves my point about you.

Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #529 on: February 23, 2016, 12:42:03 AM »

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For Celtics fans to kill Smart for that shot with all the clutch shots Pierce took over his career, isoing into bad contested threes much of the time, is amusing to watch.  If he hit the shot I bet most of those people don't say anything.

I say that as someone who was critical of Pierce's shot selection and didn't think Smart made the right play tonight either.  I just find this reaction crazy.  It ignores everything else he did and the fact that we wouldn't have even had a chance if it wasn't for multiple plays he made down the stretch.


Smart is such a ****ing moron. Can't stand watching him play about 90% of the time. Hope he's fined for his flop, too. He needs to stop acting like a clown and work about 10x harder than he is on developing something resembling basketball skills.

What a ridiculous post.

How is it ridiculous? He's void of talent in a game that rewards talent right now.

LOL!  You just keep going.
It gets a little ridiculous how guarded people are of Smart. I mean the guy himself knew he blew the game at the end and stepped out of line with that shot. His entire team gave him the WTH look.

Can't blame posters for being a bit irritated.

Just suck it up Snakehead.

If he passed it up and Isaiah missed, there would still have been people clammering for smart to be a leader, and to take the big shot. I think he still would have gotten a bit of hate either way.
No that's you being protective of your boy.

He played great but that last play was bad. No way around it.

Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #530 on: February 23, 2016, 12:47:56 AM »

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For Celtics fans to kill Smart for that shot with all the clutch shots Pierce took over his career, isoing into bad contested threes much of the time, is amusing to watch.  If he hit the shot I bet most of those people don't say anything.

I say that as someone who was critical of Pierce's shot selection and didn't think Smart made the right play tonight either.  I just find this reaction crazy.  It ignores everything else he did and the fact that we wouldn't have even had a chance if it wasn't for multiple plays he made down the stretch.


Smart is such a ****ing moron. Can't stand watching him play about 90% of the time. Hope he's fined for his flop, too. He needs to stop acting like a clown and work about 10x harder than he is on developing something resembling basketball skills.

What a ridiculous post.

How is it ridiculous? He's void of talent in a game that rewards talent right now.

LOL!  You just keep going.
It gets a little ridiculous how guarded people are of Smart. I mean the guy himself knew he blew the game at the end and stepped out of line with that shot. His entire team gave him the WTH look.

Can't blame posters for being a bit irritated.

Just suck it up Snakehead.

If he passed it up and Isaiah missed, there would still have been people clammering for smart to be a leader, and to take the big shot. I think he still would have gotten a bit of hate either way.
No that's you being protective of your boy.

He played great but that last play was bad. No way around it.

Leader? I never want Smart taking a last second 3 unless IT, Crowder, Bradley, and KO are covered. I'd rather Turner getting into the paint, too.

Much rather seeing him leading by being a dirt-dog -- that's what he does well. Muck up the game, create turnovers for garbage buckets, knock down the occasional spot-up 3. That's where he is right now. There's nothing wrong with that. But he makes us worse by taking that last second shot tonight. He wouldn't be immediately apologizing to everyone in his field of vision wearing Green otherwise...
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Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #531 on: February 23, 2016, 12:49:48 AM »

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Smart is such a ****ing moron. Can't stand watching him play about 90% of the time. Hope he's fined for his flop, too. He needs to stop acting like a clown and work about 10x harder than he is on developing something resembling basketball skills.

You are in no position to question Smart's effort. You hate Smart, we get it. But to call out his effort in a game where he and Crowder were about the only ones who gave consistent effort, it really is disgusting.

I don't hate Smart, I never did. He has the best chance of developing into a home-grown star on the roster right now. I hope that happens. His effort on the court is great. But he needs to get a lot better offensively. Either he isn't putting in the time, or he is just a poor basketball player. Is that really hard to see?

He's averaging 10 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists and 1.8 steals in 27 minutes as a 21 year old who has barely over one year (103 games) NBA experience.  He's also considered by quite a few people to be one of the better defensive guards in the NBA right now, regardless of experience.

I'm not sure exactly what you more you expect from him.

If you think his current level of play doesn't align with him one day being a star then that's a fair enough argument.  But to say he's not trying hard enough, or that he's a "poor basketball player" is just silly. 

A 'poor basketball player' wouldn't be averaging almost 28 minutes a game on a team with a top 3 seed.  Hell, Jerebko and Zeller are only averaging 22 minutes combined and I wouldn't describe either of those guys as a 'poor' basketball player.  A poor basketball player would be struggling to earn 5 minutes a game on a lottery team.

Anyway I think I understand your position.  We got a top 6 pick and drafted Smart, so based on the fact that he is a top 6 pick you expect him to look like an All-Star in his first two years.  He doesn't, so you are disappointed. 

I'm sorry to say but if that is the case, then it's your fault for setting expectations too high - not Smart's fault.

Take a look at D'Angelo Russell.  He was a #2 pick last year and was taken over Okafor.  Does he look as good as Smart right now?  No, he doesn't.  He looks a tad better on offense, and is nowhere near Smart's level on defense.

So all that considered, I'm not sure how you can be disappointed with Smart.  He pretty much is what most of us expected to be, and he is starting to show occasional flashes of who most of us hoped he would one day become.  That's pretty much what I expect of a guy like him at this point.   

Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #532 on: February 23, 2016, 01:09:36 AM »

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Smart is such a ****ing moron. Can't stand watching him play about 90% of the time. Hope he's fined for his flop, too. He needs to stop acting like a clown and work about 10x harder than he is on developing something resembling basketball skills.

You are in no position to question Smart's effort. You hate Smart, we get it. But to call out his effort in a game where he and Crowder were about the only ones who gave consistent effort, it really is disgusting.

I don't hate Smart, I never did. He has the best chance of developing into a home-grown star on the roster right now. I hope that happens. His effort on the court is great. But he needs to get a lot better offensively. Either he isn't putting in the time, or he is just a poor basketball player. Is that really hard to see?

He's averaging 10 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists and 1.8 steals in 27 minutes as a 21 year old who has barely over one year (103 games) NBA experience.  He's also considered by quite a few people to be one of the better defensive guards in the NBA right now, regardless of experience.

I'm not sure exactly what you more you expect from him.

If you think his current level of play doesn't align with him one day being a star then that's a fair enough argument.  But to say he's not trying hard enough, or that he's a "poor basketball player" is just silly. 

A 'poor basketball player' wouldn't be averaging almost 28 minutes a game on a team with a top 3 seed.  Hell, Jerebko and Zeller are only averaging 22 minutes combined and I wouldn't describe either of those guys as a 'poor' basketball player.  A poor basketball player would be struggling to earn 5 minutes a game on a lottery team.

Anyway I think I understand your position.  We got a top 6 pick and drafted Smart, so based on the fact that he is a top 6 pick you expect him to look like an All-Star in his first two years.  He doesn't, so you are disappointed. 

I'm sorry to say but if that is the case, then it's your fault for setting expectations too high - not Smart's fault.

Take a look at D'Angelo Russell.  He was a #2 pick last year and was taken over Okafor.  Does he look as good as Smart right now?  No, he doesn't.  He looks a tad better on offense, and is nowhere near Smart's level on defense.

So all that considered, I'm not sure how you can be disappointed with Smart.  He pretty much is what most of us expected to be, and he is starting to show occasional flashes of who most of us hoped he would one day become.  That's pretty much what I expect of a guy like him at this point.   

I'm not at all disappointed with Smart. I'm happy with who he is as a player right now when he plays within himself, the right way. I can't stand when he plays outside of himself, though, especially in a situation like tonight. Yes, he's 21. Yes, I should have more patience with him. I am positive he will get better, and significantly so... but right now, I want him in his lane and doing the right things to get better.

He's far from a finished product, though, and his stats are well-explained by the fact that he is a good athlete, a superior competitor, and a very good defensive player. I love that about him. He's my prototypical player, in fact. I root for guys like Smart and Crowder. They've earned minutes and found success by playing gritty and consistent defense... that's our DNA, it suits him well.

But realize too that everyone on this team has made a leap under Stevens. It's hard to imagine a scenario in which Smart didn't average 10 points, 4 reb, 3 asst. He benefits from easy buckets off T/Os and has been hitting spot-up 3s. That's where he's at right now. Perfect, I'm good with that. I'd just like him to stay in his lane.

I don't care to compare to Russell. Relative to draft position, he had bust written all over him before he was even drafted. But, I genuinely fail to see where I am losing people here. I am being as transparent and deliberate as I possible can in defining "poor basketball player" -- he lacks talent. He is a poor shooter unless set off a pass (and streaky, then), he isn't a good ball handler, he lack finesse/touch on the ball.

And he doesn't finish well at the rim. Why not? It's not b/c he doesn't try... he does. But his attempt is always to bulldoze, create contact, and try to finish through it. Not going to work, he's too small for that now. Instead, develop a euro, put some English on the ball, develop a floater/tear drop. He hasn't done those things yet. Why not? I can do those things. So, he's:
a) Not working hard enough, b) Not talented enough, or c) Isn't being coached well (by Stevens? Seems unlikely).
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Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #533 on: February 23, 2016, 01:10:32 AM »

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For Celtics fans to kill Smart for that shot with all the clutch shots Pierce took over his career, isoing into bad contested threes much of the time, is amusing to watch.  If he hit the shot I bet most of those people don't say anything.

I say that as someone who was critical of Pierce's shot selection and didn't think Smart made the right play tonight either.  I just find this reaction crazy.  It ignores everything else he did and the fact that we wouldn't have even had a chance if it wasn't for multiple plays he made down the stretch.


Smart is such a ****ing moron. Can't stand watching him play about 90% of the time. Hope he's fined for his flop, too. He needs to stop acting like a clown and work about 10x harder than he is on developing something resembling basketball skills.

What a ridiculous post.

How is it ridiculous? He's void of talent in a game that rewards talent right now.

LOL!  You just keep going.
It gets a little ridiculous how guarded people are of Smart. I mean the guy himself knew he blew the game at the end and stepped out of line with that shot. His entire team gave him the WTH look.

Can't blame posters for being a bit irritated.

Just suck it up Snakehead.

He "blew" the game when him and Crowder were the only ones that showed up the whole night. How about IT not being able to guard a wet paper towel, going 8-20, not even getting to the line once, only showing up for about a quarter of the game, and being a -10? Oh, that's right. He's our "All Star" now, so he's beyond critique.  ::)

The flop was ridiculous and uncalled for. I hope he doesn't become one of those players. And, yes, he probably should've passed it to IT, but IT was also 2-7 and off most of the night, too. So let's not act like he missed IT with a wide-open layup in favor of the three.

How many games has IT "blown" for us by not hitting a last second shot or getting stuffed by a bigger opponent at the last second when he's forcing it? There's been at least four games this year that he's "blown" for us by your standards then.

Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #534 on: February 23, 2016, 01:18:10 AM »

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For Celtics fans to kill Smart for that shot with all the clutch shots Pierce took over his career, isoing into bad contested threes much of the time, is amusing to watch.  If he hit the shot I bet most of those people don't say anything.

I say that as someone who was critical of Pierce's shot selection and didn't think Smart made the right play tonight either.  I just find this reaction crazy.  It ignores everything else he did and the fact that we wouldn't have even had a chance if it wasn't for multiple plays he made down the stretch.


Smart is such a ****ing moron. Can't stand watching him play about 90% of the time. Hope he's fined for his flop, too. He needs to stop acting like a clown and work about 10x harder than he is on developing something resembling basketball skills.

What a ridiculous post.

How is it ridiculous? He's void of talent in a game that rewards talent right now.

LOL!  You just keep going.
It gets a little ridiculous how guarded people are of Smart. I mean the guy himself knew he blew the game at the end and stepped out of line with that shot. His entire team gave him the WTH look.

Can't blame posters for being a bit irritated.

Just suck it up Snakehead.

He "blew" the game when him and Crowder were the only ones that showed up the whole night. How about IT not being able to guard a wet paper towel, going 8-20, not even getting to the line once, only showing up for about a quarter of the game, and being a -10? Oh, that's right. He's our "All Star" now, so he's beyond critique.  ::)

The flop was ridiculous and uncalled for. I hope he doesn't become one of those players. And, yes, he probably should've passed it to IT, but IT was also 2-7 and off most of the night, too. So let's not act like he missed IT with a wide-open layup in favor of the three.

How many games has IT "blown" for us by not hitting a last second shot or getting stuffed by a bigger opponent at the last second when he's forcing it? There's been at least four games this year that he's "blown" for us by your standards then.
He didn't make the right play. All the other stuff you wrote is just background noise to that.

It's like I'm a criminal or something for coming on here and saying Smart played great but blew the final play. 

Abd yes you live with IT driving in for the final shot, no matter the outcome, because he gives us the best chance.

Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #535 on: February 23, 2016, 01:19:15 AM »

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Good loss tonight.  Gotta create distance from Minny and Brooklyn.

Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #536 on: February 23, 2016, 01:26:34 AM »

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Smart is such a ****ing moron. Can't stand watching him play about 90% of the time. Hope he's fined for his flop, too. He needs to stop acting like a clown and work about 10x harder than he is on developing something resembling basketball skills.

You are in no position to question Smart's effort. You hate Smart, we get it. But to call out his effort in a game where he and Crowder were about the only ones who gave consistent effort, it really is disgusting.

I don't hate Smart, I never did. He has the best chance of developing into a home-grown star on the roster right now. I hope that happens. His effort on the court is great. But he needs to get a lot better offensively. Either he isn't putting in the time, or he is just a poor basketball player. Is that really hard to see?

He's averaging 10 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists and 1.8 steals in 27 minutes as a 21 year old who has barely over one year (103 games) NBA experience.  He's also considered by quite a few people to be one of the better defensive guards in the NBA right now, regardless of experience.

I'm not sure exactly what you more you expect from him.

If you think his current level of play doesn't align with him one day being a star then that's a fair enough argument.  But to say he's not trying hard enough, or that he's a "poor basketball player" is just silly. 

A 'poor basketball player' wouldn't be averaging almost 28 minutes a game on a team with a top 3 seed.  Hell, Jerebko and Zeller are only averaging 22 minutes combined and I wouldn't describe either of those guys as a 'poor' basketball player.  A poor basketball player would be struggling to earn 5 minutes a game on a lottery team.

Anyway I think I understand your position.  We got a top 6 pick and drafted Smart, so based on the fact that he is a top 6 pick you expect him to look like an All-Star in his first two years.  He doesn't, so you are disappointed. 

I'm sorry to say but if that is the case, then it's your fault for setting expectations too high - not Smart's fault.

Take a look at D'Angelo Russell.  He was a #2 pick last year and was taken over Okafor.  Does he look as good as Smart right now?  No, he doesn't.  He looks a tad better on offense, and is nowhere near Smart's level on defense.

So all that considered, I'm not sure how you can be disappointed with Smart.  He pretty much is what most of us expected to be, and he is starting to show occasional flashes of who most of us hoped he would one day become.  That's pretty much what I expect of a guy like him at this point.   

I'm not at all disappointed with Smart. I'm happy with who he is as a player right now when he plays within himself, the right way. I can't stand when he plays outside of himself, though, especially in a situation like tonight. Yes, he's 21. Yes, I should have more patience with him. I am positive he will get better, and significantly so... but right now, I want him in his lane and doing the right things to get better.

He's far from a finished product, though, and his stats are well-explained by the fact that he is a good athlete, a superior competitor, and a very good defensive player. I love that about him. He's my prototypical player, in fact. I root for guys like Smart and Crowder. They've earned minutes and found success by playing gritty and consistent defense... that's our DNA, it suits him well.

But realize too that everyone on this team has made a leap under Stevens. It's hard to imagine a scenario in which Smart didn't average 10 points, 4 reb, 3 asst. He benefits from easy buckets off T/Os and has been hitting spot-up 3s. That's where he's at right now. Perfect, I'm good with that. I'd just like him to stay in his lane.

I don't care to compare to Russell. Relative to draft position, he had bust written all over him before he was even drafted. But, I genuinely fail to see where I am losing people here. I am being as transparent and deliberate as I possible can in defining "poor basketball player" -- he lacks talent. He is a poor shooter unless set off a pass (and streaky, then), he isn't a good ball handler, he lack finesse/touch on the ball.

And he doesn't finish well at the rim. Why not? It's not b/c he doesn't try... he does. But his attempt is always to bulldoze, create contact, and try to finish through it. Not going to work, he's too small for that now. Instead, develop a euro, put some English on the ball, develop a floater/tear drop. He hasn't done those things yet. Why not? I can do those things. So, he's:
a) Not working hard enough, b) Not talented enough, or c) Isn't being coached well (by Stevens? Seems unlikely).

I just don't understand how you describe him as a poor basketball player.  An average basketball player maybe, but poor? 

Even your 'lack of talent' argument - I don't get that. 

Talent is essentially a players natural, god given abilities.  They are the things that you are born with, or aren't.  Things you either have, or you don't.  Things you cannot teach.  These are things like size, strength, speed, quickness, lateral quickness, defensive instincts, court vision, leadership skills, etc.

I think Smart measures up quite well in all of those areas.

The areas where Smart needs improvement are things like ball handling, shooting and finishing around the basket - i would argue that these things are more skills rather than talents.  They are things that you can work on, develop and get better at. 

There are some guys who can't ever get better at those things because of physical limitations (e.g. Rondo's big hands stopped him from ever being a good shooter) but I don't think Smart is limited in that way in any of those skill areas.

He's improving as the season goes on both as an outside shooter and as a free throw shooter, which suggests that he has potential as a shooter and can improve.  is ball handling seems to be improving over time, and he continues to have a very solid assist:TO ratio, which suggests his court feel is quite good.

I actually think Smart has quite a bit of talent, I just don't think he has elite/superstar talent.  I think he is a player who has average to above average talent, but who's mental nature makes gives him a high probability to become a better player than his natural talent level suggests he should be.

I don't think it's even remotely fair to call him a poor basketball player.  I think he is an above average basketball player who has the potential to become a very good basketball player. 

I don't think he will ever be a great basketball player because I just don't think he has enough natural talent to get him to that point, but by all means I do hope he proves me wrong.

With his talent and intangibles (mental nature, etc) I could see him developing into the Paul Millsap of Point Guards, and I can't complain about that.

You are correct when you say that he doesn't finish well around the basket - his 49% shooting inside 3 feet ranks 13th on the team.  However it's not all bad. 

1) He actually shot 56% inside 3 feet last year, which isn't terrible (though isn't great either)

2) He has increased his percentages in the 3-10 foot range from 25.5% last year, to 34.8% this year - that's sign of progression

3) He's increased his Free Throw Rate from 26.6% last year (pretty average), to 32.5% this year  (very good)

He's also increased his shooting percentage slightly from midrange.  He is shooting 40% on twos from 10-16 feet (up from 38.2% last year) and 33.3% on twos outside 16 feet (up from 29.5% last year).  Not dramatic jumps, but jumps none the less - and 40% from 10-16 feet is actually very respectable.

His FT% is also much improved compared to last year (from 64.6% up to 74.3%).

His 3PT shooting is obviously down, but has been getting better as the season has gone on (he has shot 36% from three in February). 

There are bright spots to take from this season for Smart.  We just need to be mindful of the fact that he's only 21 and that offense was never his strong suit, so it's probably going to take time for him to develop that aspect of his game.
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« Reply #537 on: February 23, 2016, 01:57:24 AM »

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For Celtics fans to kill Smart for that shot with all the clutch shots Pierce took over his career, isoing into bad contested threes much of the time, is amusing to watch.  If he hit the shot I bet most of those people don't say anything.

I say that as someone who was critical of Pierce's shot selection and didn't think Smart made the right play tonight either.  I just find this reaction crazy.  It ignores everything else he did and the fact that we wouldn't have even had a chance if it wasn't for multiple plays he made down the stretch.


Smart is such a ****ing moron. Can't stand watching him play about 90% of the time. Hope he's fined for his flop, too. He needs to stop acting like a clown and work about 10x harder than he is on developing something resembling basketball skills.

What a ridiculous post.

How is it ridiculous? He's void of talent in a game that rewards talent right now.

LOL!  You just keep going.
It gets a little ridiculous how guarded people are of Smart. I mean the guy himself knew he blew the game at the end and stepped out of line with that shot. His entire team gave him the WTH look.

Can't blame posters for being a bit irritated.

Just suck it up Snakehead.

He "blew" the game when him and Crowder were the only ones that showed up the whole night. How about IT not being able to guard a wet paper towel, going 8-20, not even getting to the line once, only showing up for about a quarter of the game, and being a -10? Oh, that's right. He's our "All Star" now, so he's beyond critique.  ::)

The flop was ridiculous and uncalled for. I hope he doesn't become one of those players. And, yes, he probably should've passed it to IT, but IT was also 2-7 and off most of the night, too. So let's not act like he missed IT with a wide-open layup in favor of the three.

How many games has IT "blown" for us by not hitting a last second shot or getting stuffed by a bigger opponent at the last second when he's forcing it? There's been at least four games this year that he's "blown" for us by your standards then.
He didn't make the right play. All the other stuff you wrote is just background noise to that.

It's like I'm a criminal or something for coming on here and saying Smart played great but blew the final play. 

Abd yes you live with IT driving in for the final shot, no matter the outcome, because he gives us the best chance.

Or you're just promoting a double-standard like always, i.e. the young player who has played barely 100 games gets held twice as accountable as any other person on this team, especially your boo IT, who sucked the big one tonight btw, that always gets a pass for playing poorly or forcing half a dozen plays each night merely because he's our "All-Star."

A real leader and best player on the team should be held more accountable than anyone else. So you must think that Smart is twice the player than any other Celtic!!  :o ;D ;)

Re: Celtics (33-24) at Timberwolves (17-39) Game #58 2/22/16
« Reply #538 on: February 23, 2016, 01:11:55 PM »

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This loss highlites a gm that can't draft worth a [dang].