The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)

[nickagneta]

Posted this in the ototheworrying about the Nets thread:

Over their last 20 games, the Nets are 8-12. Projecting that .400 winning percentage to their last 6 games means they most likely win only 2-3 more games.

Meanwhile the Lakers are 2-18 over their last 20 games and project to win either 0 or 1 game the rest of the way.

Just don't see the Nets catching the Lakers. Especially given each team's schedule. My guess is the Nets end up 2 games behind LA.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Just knew that Orlando would wimp out today vs. BK---left it all on the court in Boston last night---now we gotta pray for an Atlanta win tomorrow...They lost today.

[chambers]

everything will be fine. Don't the Nets have to winnevery game except one to even make this a conversation? That's not happening  guys relax!

[Ogaju]

Just knew that Orlando would wimp out today vs. BK---left it all on the court in Boston last night---now we gotta pray for an Atlanta win tomorrow...They lost today.

We are number 1 we are going to get the best of each team we play. We have to take care of business and beat the Nets, their magic number becomes two other losses. They will find a way to lose two more. That takes care of the tanking Lakers.

[RockinRyA]

The Bulls have been playing better recently and is playing for a playoff spot, I think they end this discussion for us.

[CelticSooner]

everything will be fine. Don't the Nets have to winnevery game except one to even make this a conversation? That's not happening  guys relax!

They have to win 4 of 6 to tie the Lakers at the moment. Tomorrow is a huge game. ATL wins and it's a wrap.

[SHAQATTACK]

Johnson and Buss have completely tanked the Lakers .  End of story , that's what he wanted for years , he was critical of previous FO ,  for not going the all out route .  They were trying to balance TV rating , fan appeal , walking a tightrope like Danny did between trying to lose and looking like a real NBA team.  He ll tank the Lakers every year till he gets KObe type replacements.

[hpantazo]

Johnson and Buss have completely tanked the Lakers .  End of story , that's what he wanted for years , he was critical of previous FO ,  for not going the all out route .  They were trying to balance TV rating , fan appeal , walking a tightrope like Danny did between trying to lose and looking like a real NBA team.  He ll tank the Lakers every year till he gets KObe type replacements.

The majority of the league has been trying that approach for decades now. It rarely works because there are not many Kobe type players.

[SHAQATTACK]

Johnson and Buss have completely tanked the Lakers .  End of story , that's what he wanted for years , he was critical of previous FO ,  for not going the all out route .  They were trying to balance TV rating , fan appeal , walking a tightrope like Danny did between trying to lose and looking like a real NBA team.  He ll tank the Lakers every year till he gets KObe type replacements.

The majority of the league has been trying that approach for decades now. It rarely works because there are not many Kobe type players.

There needs to incentives NOT to tank ,  teams should also be rewarded for playing on though adversity .  Throwing away an entire season a in the name , nbelittling the spirt of sport and screw the paying fans to get a top player seems wrong on so many levels.

[GreenShooter]

I think the Lakers tanking is more related to the Suns tanking and not trying to catch the Nets. Lakers want to finish at least 2nd worst so they can try to land a top 3 pick. Otherwise, it belongs to Philly. With the Suns on their tail I see the Lakers intentionally losing all of their winnable games (Sacramento, Minnesota and N.O.).

[Granath]

Johnson and Buss have completely tanked the Lakers .  End of story , that's what he wanted for years , he was critical of previous FO ,  for not going the all out route .  They were trying to balance TV rating , fan appeal , walking a tightrope like Danny did between trying to lose and looking like a real NBA team.  He ll tank the Lakers every year till he gets KObe type replacements.

The majority of the league has been trying that approach for decades now. It rarely works because there are not many Kobe type players.

There needs to incentives NOT to tank ,  teams should also be rewarded for playing on though adversity .  Throwing away an entire season a in the name , nbelittling the spirt of sport and screw the paying fans to get a top player seems wrong on so many levels.

The problem is that finding incentives not to tank are exceptionally difficult. Many "incentives" are merely punishments for truly horrible teams. So an even chance for all lottery teams just moves the incentive to tank to teams competing for the #8 playoff spot. If Lebron is in the draft then I'm forgoing that #8 seed to get around a 10% chance to land a once-in-a-generation talent.

My idea is that the lottery chance for the #1 pick for the worst team directly relates to the number of wins multiplied by a factor (like 1.5). So if you tank and end up with 15 wins, the chance for getting the overall #1 is 22.5%. If you win a couple more games (say 20) then your odds go up to 30%. The odds for all the rest of the teams in the lottery are subsequently adjusted as the odds for the overall #1 go up or down.

Of course, this system has problems too. In the case of Brooklyn, they could literally have a reverse incentive to tank. Let's say they traded Lopez for the #10 overall pick. Their incentive to lose games to lower the chance of Boston getting the overall #1 raises their chance to get lucky in the lottery.

There's really no good system to eliminate tanking. It's going to happen. The best thing you can do is to mitigate it, which they've tried to do with the lottery.

[greece66]

I think the Lakers tanking is more related to the Suns tanking and not trying to catch the Nets. Lakers want to finish at least 2nd worst so they can try to land a top 3 pick. Otherwise, it belongs to Philly. With the Suns on their tail I see the Lakers intentionally losing all of their winnable games (Sacramento, Minnesota and N.O.).

The 1-3 protection to their pick is prolly a factor. Next year the pick will be unprotected.

Below are the % for a team to get a pick outside the top 3, based on the position it finishes.

1/35.7%
2/44.2%
3/53.1%
4/ 62.2%
5/ 70.9

Here is the table from tankathon.com

[Ogaju]

This place is about to blowup in a minute.

[Ogaju]

tick tock tick tock...

[Ogaju]

what a season of basketball.... I am sure Brooklyn players eyes are fixed on the game right now. lol