Author Topic: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?  (Read 252955 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #405 on: August 30, 2013, 12:19:11 PM »

Offline Donoghus

  • Global Moderator
  • Red Auerbach
  • *******************************
  • Posts: 31055
  • Tommy Points: 1615
  • What a Pub Should Be
So if you start Monta Ellis, do you start Bradley or go with Chalmers/Farmar?

G:
G: Monta Ellis
F: LeBron James
F: Serge Ibaka
C: DeAndre Jordan

I'd start Chalmers.

Yeah, I think I trust that lineup more with Chalmers outside shooting there than with Bradley's superior defense.

And I like having Farmar as backup PG alongside Bradley because he is their most creative offensive guard of that trio. Best guy to take up some of the slack while one of or both LeBron/Monta rests.

I certainly not enamored with the Chalmers/Ellis backcourt.  I think it will have some limitations and issues but, of the remaining options, I think its the best one on the table.

You need to start Ellis and I think you'd be better inclined to have the defensive specialist in Bradley coming off the bench with Chalmers starting than vice versa.


2010 CB Historical Draft - Best Overall Team

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #406 on: August 30, 2013, 12:41:22 PM »

Offline nickagneta

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 48120
  • Tommy Points: 8794
  • President of Jaylen Brown Fan Club
So if you start Monta Ellis, do you start Bradley or go with Chalmers/Farmar?

G:
G: Monta Ellis
F: LeBron James
F: Serge Ibaka
C: DeAndre Jordan

I'd start Chalmers.

Yeah, I think I trust that lineup more with Chalmers outside shooting there than with Bradley's superior defense.

And I like having Farmar as backup PG alongside Bradley because he is their most creative offensive guard of that trio. Best guy to take up some of the slack while one of or both LeBron/Monta rests.

I certainly not enamored with the Chalmers/Ellis backcourt.  I think it will have some limitations and issues but, of the remaining options, I think its the best one on the table.

You need to start Ellis and I think you'd be better inclined to have the defensive specialist in Bradley coming off the bench with Chalmers starting than vice versa.
I would start Chalmers and Bradley and bring Ellis in off the bench as an offensive weapon against second teamers and to have the designated role of scoring sixth man. He would still get his 33-35 MPG just in a different role and capacity.

I would start Bradley/Chalmers/Battier/Lebron/Ibaka then have Ellis come in for one of the guards and Davis in for Battier moving Lebron over to the 3. Next would be Jordan to spell Ibaka. Then around the quarter break get Bron and the other guard a blow by bringing Battier and the starting guard back. Then Lebron and Ibaka come back in for Jordan and Davis and finally Elis sits while the starters finish the quarter. Rinse and repeat in the second half. If a blowout occurs or foul trouble happens, get the deeper bench involved.

I think getting that small ball lineup in there with Lebron at the 4 is key. Its a monster defensive unit that is tremendously athletic and can run wild off blocks and turnovers.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #407 on: August 30, 2013, 12:56:30 PM »

Offline McHales Pits

  • NCE
  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1621
  • Tommy Points: 175
I appreciate everyone's takes on my Timberwolves squad. There are a lot of good, unique ideas on how to assemble the lineup. I think the only one who has mentioned the versatility of this team is Nick. The fact that I have so many options speaks to the types of players I acquired. I have the ability to arrange my team to matchup against the opponent. If they go big, I have bigs. If they go small, I have guards.

Three other observations...

1) Monta is not getting nearly enough respect.
2) I stand by the DeAndre Jordan selection
3) This team has plenty of scoring (I'm talking to you Roy). You don't need 120 points to win. You need a good defense!
2013 CB Draft Champions*: Minnesota Timberwolves
DKC League: Washington Wizards

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #408 on: August 30, 2013, 01:03:57 PM »

Online Roy H.

  • Forums Manager
  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 58702
  • Tommy Points: -25629
  • Bo Knows: Joe Don't Know Diddley
3) This team has plenty of scoring (I'm talking to you Roy). You don't need 120 points to win. You need a good defense!

It depends upon what lineup you're putting out there.

If you're starting Jordan, Bradley, and Chalmers, then no, you don't have enough scoring.  Monta isn't perfect (he's pretty inefficient at this point of his career), but he's a better scorer than anybody else you have.


I'M THE SILVERBACK GORILLA IN THIS MOTHER——— AND DON'T NONE OF YA'LL EVER FORGET IT!@ 34 minutes

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #409 on: August 30, 2013, 01:08:07 PM »

Offline McHales Pits

  • NCE
  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1621
  • Tommy Points: 175
LeBron - 26
Ibaka - 14
Jordan - 10
Ellis - 18
Bradley - 8
Battier - 6
Davis - 6
Korver - 10
Chalmers - 6
Miles - 2
Crowder - 2
Farmar - 2
Stiemsma - 2

Is that not reasonable? That's 112 points!
2013 CB Draft Champions*: Minnesota Timberwolves
DKC League: Washington Wizards

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #410 on: August 30, 2013, 01:11:00 PM »

Offline McHales Pits

  • NCE
  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1621
  • Tommy Points: 175
3) This team has plenty of scoring (I'm talking to you Roy). You don't need 120 points to win. You need a good defense!

It depends upon what lineup you're putting out there.

If you're starting Jordan, Bradley, and Chalmers, then no, you don't have enough scoring.  Monta isn't perfect (he's pretty inefficient at this point of his career), but he's a better scorer than anybody else you have.

He's inefficient at being a teams number one scorer with nothing around him. He is purely second fiddle on this team and will get to the rim with teams respecting Ibaka's baseline jumper and LeBron's presence on the floor. I would bet if he played on this team in real life he would shoot 45%.
2013 CB Draft Champions*: Minnesota Timberwolves
DKC League: Washington Wizards

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #411 on: August 30, 2013, 01:11:21 PM »

Online Roy H.

  • Forums Manager
  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 58702
  • Tommy Points: -25629
  • Bo Knows: Joe Don't Know Diddley
LeBron - 26
Ibaka - 14
Jordan - 10
Ellis - 18
Bradley - 8
Battier - 6
Davis - 6
Korver - 10
Chalmers - 6
Miles - 2
Crowder - 2
Farmar - 2
Stiemsma - 2

Is that not reasonable? That's 112 points!

Haha.  I'm pretty sure every team in the league could do that.  Just throw up random numbers with no context, and say the team will score 120 points.


I'M THE SILVERBACK GORILLA IN THIS MOTHER——— AND DON'T NONE OF YA'LL EVER FORGET IT!@ 34 minutes

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #412 on: August 30, 2013, 01:21:43 PM »

Offline McHales Pits

  • NCE
  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1621
  • Tommy Points: 175
Wow what a hater. Guess you are right. My team will be lucky to break 80 points because they are so inept. I only have the best player in the world surrounded by guys who play defense or shoot threes. What a terrible strategy. I should have gotten the top-2 players in the world and surrounded them with defense and threes.
2013 CB Draft Champions*: Minnesota Timberwolves
DKC League: Washington Wizards

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #413 on: August 30, 2013, 01:24:29 PM »

Offline KCattheStripe

  • Danny Ainge
  • **********
  • Posts: 10726
  • Tommy Points: 830
Wow what a hater. Guess you are right. My team will be lucky to break 80 points because they are so inept. I only have the best player in the world surrounded by guys who play defense or shoot threes. What a terrible strategy. I should have gotten the top-2 players in the world and surrounded them with defense and threes.

I mean, Monta shoots threes, he just doesn't make them.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #414 on: August 30, 2013, 01:24:54 PM »

Offline fairweatherfan

  • Johnny Most
  • ********************
  • Posts: 20738
  • Tommy Points: 2365
  • Be the posts you wish to see in the world.
Kobe - 120
What's their faces - Some rebounds and passes.  Maybe defense.  Whatevs.  Just don't get between Kobe and the basket.  Or the camera.

I've checked the math and this equals 120 ppg.  Checkmate!

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #415 on: August 30, 2013, 01:25:27 PM »

Offline indeedproceed

  • In The Rafters
  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 42583
  • Tommy Points: 2756
  • You ain't the boss of the freakin' bedclothes.
LeBron - 26
Ibaka - 14
Jordan - 10
Ellis - 18
Bradley - 8
Battier - 6
Davis - 6
Korver - 10
Chalmers - 6
Miles - 2
Crowder - 2
Farmar - 2
Stiemsma - 2

Is that not reasonable? That's 112 points!

That's actually 257 total minutes if you wanna fit all those guys into one game, based on each of their per-minute scoring averages from 2013.

"You've gotta respect a 15-percent 3-point shooter. A guy
like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #416 on: August 30, 2013, 01:31:41 PM »

Offline WeMadeIt17

  • Ray Allen
  • ***
  • Posts: 3397
  • Tommy Points: 435
Rubio/billups/daniels
Afflalo/Pietrus/Daniels
Green/Novak/Daniels/Pietrus
Griffin/Hill/Gooden
Vucevic/Leonard/Turiaf

Actually a nice team despite all the flack we got about the rose trade

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #417 on: August 30, 2013, 01:33:00 PM »

Offline McHales Pits

  • NCE
  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1621
  • Tommy Points: 175
Kudos for actually doing the research. 112*(240/257) = 104.5
2013 CB Draft Champions*: Minnesota Timberwolves
DKC League: Washington Wizards

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #418 on: August 30, 2013, 01:34:12 PM »

Offline McHales Pits

  • NCE
  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1621
  • Tommy Points: 175
Wow what a hater. Guess you are right. My team will be lucky to break 80 points because they are so inept. I only have the best player in the world surrounded by guys who play defense or shoot threes. What a terrible strategy. I should have gotten the top-2 players in the world and surrounded them with defense and threes.

I mean, Monta shoots threes, he just doesn't make them.

That's not his game.
2013 CB Draft Champions*: Minnesota Timberwolves
DKC League: Washington Wizards

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #419 on: August 30, 2013, 01:35:16 PM »

Offline fairweatherfan

  • Johnny Most
  • ********************
  • Posts: 20738
  • Tommy Points: 2365
  • Be the posts you wish to see in the world.
Rubio/billups/daniels
Afflalo/Pietrus/Daniels
Green/Novak/Daniels/Pietrus
Griffin/Hill/Gooden
Vucevic/Leonard/Turiaf

Actually a nice team despite all the flack we got about the rose trade

It is a solid team but your ceiling went way down after that deal.  Hanging onto Rose and flipping Griffin for pieces would probably have you in a much stronger position right now. 

Setting that aside, though, this is a nice young team with a good starting 5, but the bench is pretty shaky, especially on the perimeter.  You'd need to get a lot of quality minutes out of Rubio, Afflalo, and Green to be able to compete.  And Griffin would have to reverse the downward trend of the last couple seasons.