Author Topic: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?  (Read 10883 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2017, 09:31:03 AM »

Offline rollie mass

  • Antoine Walker
  • ****
  • Posts: 4270
  • Tommy Points: 1233
What about Lebrons hip check that sent Jaylen flying into the sideline seats-?

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2017, 09:42:36 AM »

Offline Erik

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1649
  • Tommy Points: 235
  • The voice of reason
I suppose one could blame the NBA for not testing for HGH and other drugs. How they find it safe for players to be playing alongside people like LeBron James is beyond me.

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2017, 09:48:50 AM »

Offline dmopower

  • Jaylen Brown
  • Posts: 557
  • Tommy Points: 46
 Crowder got beat.  There was no reason for his arm to be tangled as Hayward did not even have the ball yet, so he has no playing the ball argument and def no reason his hip or butt should have been in the play what so ever. I dont think Crowder meant to hurt him like that but he had every intention of negatively affecting Haywards ability to rise up and finnish the play.

 I hate lebron.  But in this case had Hayward been allowed to lift up I think this play ends up a non issue as Hayward would have been able to actually beat Labron to the ball. Did anyone else notice Hayward got little lift and lebron actually beat him to the ball?

 I see it as a cheap play by Crowder whom def had a chip from the opening tip.
blind optimist or GENIUS

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2017, 09:52:16 AM »

Offline fairweatherfan

  • Johnny Most
  • ********************
  • Posts: 20738
  • Tommy Points: 2365
  • Be the posts you wish to see in the world.
Not dirty. Probably should've been a foul but also not the kind of foul they usually call. But not dirty, just a routine challenge of a lob. Notice not a peep from a single player, coach, or a real analyst even suggesting anything else.

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2017, 10:24:16 AM »

Offline csfansince60s

  • Paul Silas
  • ******
  • Posts: 6234
  • Tommy Points: 2238
Lebron injures another player "accidentally." See Danny Granger.
Lebron and Wade are the dirtiest players in basketball.

...and now you can add Crowder to that list that also includes J.R. Smith.

Team is a bunch of thugs....hopefully they all get theirs someday.

The play by both James and Crowder was at best reckless ands at worst malicious.

Given the circumstances (opening night vs main rival and wanting to set a tone, displacement of Crowder by Hayward, histrories of the players) and Crowder windmilling his arm and the vunerability in the air of a player on an alley-oop, Im thinking the latter.

 


Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2017, 10:27:46 AM »

Offline Tr1boy

  • Paul Pierce
  • ***************************
  • Posts: 27260
  • Tommy Points: 867
Crowder overall was being a punk

What did Horford do to him?

Did he trade you? He was also barking at Tatum

Misdirected anger

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2017, 10:34:43 AM »

Offline gouki88

  • NCE
  • Red Auerbach
  • *******************************
  • Posts: 31552
  • Tommy Points: 3141
  • 2019 & 2021 CS Historical Draft Champion
Crowder overall was being a punk

What did Horford do to him?

Did he trade you? He was also barking at Tatum

Misdirected anger
He's the one guy we lost that I absolutely will not miss.

Hopefully Yabu morphs into Karl Malone and gives the Cavs the Isiah Thomas treatment
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2017, 12:25:16 PM »

Offline BudweiserCeltic

  • Dennis Johnson
  • ******************
  • Posts: 18699
  • Tommy Points: 1818
Not a dirty play. Just a normal basketball play. No one's fault.

Just sucks.

Not sure what makes giving a hip check to someone who's in mid air a normal basketball play, but to each their own.

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2017, 12:28:29 PM »

Offline Fafnir

  • Bill Russell
  • ******************************
  • Posts: 30859
  • Tommy Points: 1327
Not dirty. Probably should've been a foul but also not the kind of foul they usually call. But not dirty, just a routine challenge of a lob. Notice not a peep from a single player, coach, or a real analyst even suggesting anything else.
Yeah the bumping as someone goes up for a tip in or rebound is one that's not called a ton and happens a lot.

Just sucks  :(

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2017, 12:35:25 PM »

Offline hpantazo

  • Kevin McHale
  • ************************
  • Posts: 24882
  • Tommy Points: 2700
I don’t think that play was intentional in any way, but Crowders attitude the rest of the game, particularly with Horford and Baynes, was. Crowder is a loser with some self esteem and anger issues. I’m so glad we traded him. If he was still here he’d spend the year fuming about Jaylen and Tatum getting playing time and then he’d half ass it on the floor like he did last year

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2017, 01:07:31 PM »

Offline CelticsElite

  • NCE
  • Danny Ainge
  • **********
  • Posts: 10774
  • Tommy Points: 789
Crowder overall was being a punk

What did Horford do to him?

Did he trade you? He was also barking at Tatum

Misdirected anger
he was also talking trash to semi. "you know your garbage" he repeated.
Wonder what he said to tatum? Tatum seemed  mad for once
« Last Edit: October 18, 2017, 01:12:41 PM by CelticsElite »

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2017, 01:22:16 PM »

Offline Billz401

  • Bill Walton
  • *
  • Posts: 1387
  • Tommy Points: 101
  • B's Up
Crowder overall was being a punk

What did Horford do to him?

Did he trade you? He was also barking at Tatum

Misdirected anger
he was also talking trash to semi. "you know your garbage" he repeated.
Wonder what he said to tatum? Tatum seemed  mad for once
I noticed him glare at jae on that alley he dropped on his face later on. Mad me proud especially since he's so soft spoken and rarely has shown emotion on court or off
everyone got so sensitive after 9-11... thanks alot bin laden

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2017, 01:22:57 PM »

Offline Tr1boy

  • Paul Pierce
  • ***************************
  • Posts: 27260
  • Tommy Points: 867
I thought it was clean but the more I look at it

League should review

Any injury that turns into something like this needs to be reviewed

The only way to stop a play like this is to jump up with the player or face him. Backing into him with ass out (trying to prevent the jump or could turn into an awkward landing) is never the way.

Crowder shouls be suspended/fined

This kind of play or Zaza rule should be automatic fines/suspensions

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2017, 01:26:46 PM »

Offline green_bballers13

  • NCE
  • Jim Loscutoff
  • **
  • Posts: 2948
  • Tommy Points: 320
Not a dirty play.

As much as I want to believe that Jae was trying to somehow injure Hayward, I just don't think this is the case.


Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2017, 01:26:46 PM »

Offline Big333223

  • NCE
  • Tiny Archibald
  • *******
  • Posts: 7489
  • Tommy Points: 741
I just don't see it. The injury was a freak accident and I think the result is making some people see things. If everything else had been the same but Hayward hadn't come down on his leg weird, I doubt anyone would've thought twice about the play.
1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1974, 1976, 1981, 1984, 1986, 2008