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Who would win the "fake" Southwest Division in 2008-09?

Dallas (Nelson, Dunleavy, Garcia, Boozer, Gasol, etc.)
5 (20.8%)
Houston (Bogut, Odom, G. Wallace, Martin, Parker, etc.)
12 (50%)
Memphis (Bynum, Lee, Fernandez, Foye, Arenas)
2 (8.3%)
New Orleans (Gadzuric, Maxiell, Howard, Prince, Jack, etc.)
1 (4.2%)
San Antonio (Paul, Stackhouse, Peja, AK47, B. Wallace, etc.)
4 (16.7%)

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #45 on: August 28, 2008, 01:02:40 PM »

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Apparently, the other Southwest Division GMs have conceded the Division to Jsaad, and won't be fielding teams this year. ;)

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #46 on: August 28, 2008, 01:05:26 PM »

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Again i'd put it 10 - 8 Iggy, Martin is simply not as strong defensively... i see him as a younger, Rip Hamilton, without the Rat-weasel-ness Smiley


NO WAY!! haha ;D sorry.


The Post-season has to stand for something!? Martin stepped up and AI folded under the pressure of the playoffs ;) a 10 - 9 was fair there
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2008, 01:07:00 PM »

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I was just looking, Bogut could be the Trailblazer killer.




Against Hortford: 21, 10.  61% shooting

Against Amare: 24, 12.  71.8% shooting.

Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2008, 01:08:41 PM »

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"Tony Parker (10) - TJ Ford (8 )

I think you're right here, Ford is maybe in Parker's class (toward the end of that class), but Parker's experience is so much higher than TJs. Again Ford's health has to factor too...

Bench (10) > (9 )

To tell you the truth, i might put this at 10-8 Rockets... i like Murphy, Shaq, and Finley and Ridnour... next year it might be even w/ Shaq and Finley falling totally off.


Just about dead even  still.... Good job."



Now thats what I like to see Gaines!  :)

again I expect to meet the Blazers in the WCF a couple of times.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2008, 01:09:23 PM »

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I was just looking, Bogut could be the Trailblazer killer.




Against Hortford: 21, 10.  61% shooting

Against Amare: 24, 12.  71.8% shooting.

Wow wdleehi, and all this time i thought you hated me.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2008, 01:10:04 PM »

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I was just looking, Bogut could be the Trailblazer killer.




Against Hortford: 21, 10.  61% shooting

Against Amare: 24, 12.  71.8% shooting.

Wow wdleehi, and all this time i thought you hated me.


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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2008, 01:10:54 PM »

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Houston Rockets


FRONT OFFICE:
GM: Jsaad
Assistant GM: kw10
Executive: Jerry Colangelo
Coach: Mike Krzyzewski aka Coach K, Mike D’Antoni, Nate McMillan, Jim Boeheim

TEAM:
C - Andrew Bogut/Shaquille O’Neal/Robert Swift
PF - Lamar Odom/Troy Murphy/Melvin Ely
SF - Gerald Wallace/Tim Thomas/Yakhouba Diawara
SG - Kevin Martin/Michael Finley/Roger Mason Jr
PG - Tony Parker/Luke Ridnour/Damon Stoudamire


I like the team a lot, and not because I had a lot of your guys on my draft boards/wish list. Not crazy about Odom as your PF, but that probably has more to do with me than it does with Odom (right or wrong, I've always thought of him as a space cadet/mentally weak and a guy who too easily coasts on his abilities). Regardless, you've got great frontcourt depth to mix-and-match personnel.

My only beef: Nate McMillan is head coach of the Hawks (announced the first day of our exercise). I hope I don't need to file a tampering charge with the league office.

Haha, We will concede Nate dogg my friend ;)
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2008, 01:13:39 PM »

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Bogut is Better in every Category last season and has made progress every year.

Horford averaged the same number of rebounds in an average of 4 fewer minutes than Bogut. Horford also shot better from the FT line last year.

One last, albeit not entirely fair observation: Bogut in only 3 seasons has been a little snakebit with some injuries (broken nose and most recently, severely sprained ankle). Let's hope his luck changes.

They are very close though. I'd like either of them on my team.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2008, 01:21:19 PM »

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Bench (10) > (9 )

To tell you the truth, i might put this at 10-8 Rockets... i like Murphy, Shaq, and Finley and Ridnour... next year it might be even w/ Shaq and Finley falling totally off.


Just about dead even  still.... Good job."



Now thats what I like to see Gaines!  :)

again I expect to meet the Blazers in the WCF a couple of times.


Haha.  I think G.C. overrates the bench disparity.  I like mine just as well as yours, and actually slightly better.  Either way, though, it's close.

My take:

Mourning, Battie < Shaq, Swift (Mourning will slow Shaq, though)
Haslem = Murphy (different types of games; both are a good fit)
Webster > Thomas (Webster is just much more efficient)
Mobley = Finley (I'd take Mobley, but both fill a role)
Blake > Ridnour (This gap is wider than the stats make it look)

It's very close; I certainly don't see a "10-8" in Houston's favor, especially with the open question of how Shaq will adapt to a spot on the bench.



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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #54 on: August 28, 2008, 01:25:12 PM »

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Still waiting for the other teams but I like this group of Rockets. My one critique of them where I might be concerned is perimeter defense. Neither Bogut nor Odom are gonna do a ton of intimidating back there so it's paramount that the defenders be good enough on the perimeter to deny that penetration most nights to avoid defensive breakdowns. I like Wallace for this; Martin and parker a little less so though they both do possess the athletic ability to do so. Neither have really been asked to do much at that end in their careers yet. Off the bench Ridnour, Mason and Finley don't strike me as defensive guys either. But Coach K has indeed just proven he has the ability to get guys to buy into what he's selling so maybe it will work. Still...I'd feel more comfortable having one of those guys on the bench swapped out for a defensive guy if not 2. All in all still very good team though. I like it.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2008, 03:12:49 PM »

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Bench (10) > (9 )

To tell you the truth, i might put this at 10-8 Rockets... i like Murphy, Shaq, and Finley and Ridnour... next year it might be even w/ Shaq and Finley falling totally off.


Just about dead even  still.... Good job."



Now thats what I like to see Gaines!  :)

again I expect to meet the Blazers in the WCF a couple of times.


Haha.  I think G.C. overrates the bench disparity.  I like mine just as well as yours, and actually slightly better.  Either way, though, it's close.

My take:

Mourning, Battie < Shaq, Swift (Mourning will slow Shaq, though)
Haslem = Murphy (different types of games; both are a good fit)
Webster > Thomas (Webster is just much more efficient)
Mobley = Finley (I'd take Mobley, but both fill a role)
Blake > Ridnour (This gap is wider than the stats make it look)

It's very close; I certainly don't see a "10-8" in Houston's favor, especially with the open question of how Shaq will adapt to a spot on the bench.


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Mourning, Battie < Shaq, Swift (Mourning will slow Shaq, though)
Haslem = Murphy (different types of games; both are a good fit)

This is the main area i see the difference, frontcourt depth:

1. Mourning is still injured and an unknown quanitity when he does come back.  This 'aint your daddy's Zo... he's getting up there, harder to recover.

2. Shaq is still a mammoth guy and can move folks around.

3. I LOVE (former Gator) Haslem and you can't do anything but respect his work ethic to become the starting PF on a title team... but... Murphy is 3-4 inches bigger, and the better scorer, rebounder and passer (even per36).  They might both be good fits, but I'll take Murphy/Shaq over Haslem/Battie (who's also coming back from injury) every day of the week.


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Blake > Ridnour (This gap is wider than the stats make it look)

I'm not following you here... If you look at their stats both last year and over their respective careers (where they've played almost the same # of games), Ridnour beats Blake in:   Points, rebounds, assists, asst/to ratio, steals, blocks, FG% and FT% (also true when you do per/min).  The only category Blake wins is 3P%. 

This is advantage Ridnour or a tie. 



I'd agree and take Webster over Thomas and push on Mobley/Finley, so 10-9 or 10-8 depending on how big an advantage you see HOU's frontcourt depth -- i see it as big (helping to make up for the starting frontcourt advantage i think POR has).

it's tight between these 2 teams as 1/2 seeds thus far in the West... HOU def. has the experience advantage (Parker, Shaq, Finley, Odom to Haslem, Zo in the finals dept.)
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2008, 03:21:04 PM »

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Apparently, the other Southwest Division GMs have conceded the Division to Jsaad, and won't be fielding teams this year. ;)

I know I need to get back to work but I can't help but respond  :-\

;D

This is too bad, i really would love to see the SPURS write up --- BigAl did a nice job of building a team after a very shaky start.  I don't remember who's on MEM, but WalkerWiggle has been a class act the whole draft.  And don't remember anything about the Hornets.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2008, 03:33:15 PM »

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Apparently, the other Southwest Division GMs have conceded the Division to Jsaad, and won't be fielding teams this year. ;)

I know I need to get back to work but I can't help but respond  :-\

;D

This is too bad, i really would love to see the SPURS write up --- BigAl did a nice job of building a team after a very shaky start.  I don't remember who's on MEM, but WalkerWiggle has been a class act the whole draft.  And don't remember anything about the Hornets.

Yeah, surprised BigAl and WalkerWiggle haven't posted anything yet. I expect they both will, and I'm looking forward to Edgar's when he's back from vacation.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2008, 03:48:50 PM »

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Apparently, the other Southwest Division GMs have conceded the Division to Jsaad, and won't be fielding teams this year. ;)

I know I need to get back to work but I can't help but respond  :-\

;D

This is too bad, i really would love to see the SPURS write up --- BigAl did a nice job of building a team after a very shaky start.  I don't remember who's on MEM, but WalkerWiggle has been a class act the whole draft.  And don't remember anything about the Hornets.

Yeah, surprised BigAl and WalkerWiggle haven't posted anything yet. I expect they both will, and I'm looking forward to Edgar's when he's back from vacation.

So true... I can't decide which i'm looking forward to more:  The Mavs' press conference or the return of the Office... pretty close IMO.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southwest Division
« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2008, 03:58:49 PM »

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FWIW ---- the Top 10 Basketball Movies post has a poll where you can vote for all 29 movies...

Can we do this for the "Playoffs" poll?  You can vote for 5 playoff teams along with the division "winners" (from their polls).
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