They didn't really make any major additions this summer. Unless Anthony Bennett ends up a superstar, they should be really bad again this year. The only thing to be worried about is them somehow sneaking in like 32 wins and playing out of the bottom 5.
hmm, but isn't this the same roster (less Thad) that you proclaimed to be a playoff contender last year?
I never said that.
I thought Eddie had your quote under all of his posts.
wrong. Eddie had a quote of me being right about Brooklyn. You are misremembering it.
eddies quote had lb embarrassing himself.
Wrong. It was a quote taken out of context from when I was probably first asked this question and I very lightly said something to the extent of, if Joe Johnson played the entire season, and their starting PG played 82 games, and if Rondae Hollis-Jefferson played the full season, and their depth didn't take a massive hit, they could maybe threaten to win enough games to play themselves out of the bottom 10. That's all. And of course, they spun it into some attack on the Celtics and some celebration of the Brooklyn Nets. That never happened.
Of course, Johnson didn't make it through the whole season. Their starting PG was limited to 32 games. RHJ was limited to 17 games as a starter.... so their depth was basically non-existent and just as I predicted numerous times, they ended up in the bottom 5 like I fully expected. I was 100% right.
Oh, you rascal, you!
Even Sean Hannity is not confirming this one.
Brooklyn was fairly healthy last year aside from Jack. We got to see Lopez beast, Thad was decent, JJ was old but occasionally effective, and yet they were still really, really bad.
Pretty much what most of us predicted, the roster just wasn't good at all.
I compiled a little list of some of your greatest hits (I included the Porzingis-for-Lawson quote for bonus fun, don't know if you were kidding there or not):
Knicks (17 wins): Melo is back. Melo made the playoffs the first 9 years of his career. Typically 50+ win seasons. Go ahead and knock him, but the guy has talent. They added Aaron Afflalo and Robin Lopez. Kyle O'Quinn is a serviceable starting PF with quality defense. Point guard is a concern. Who are they playing there... Jerian Grant or something? I imagine Porzingus comes off the bench. Maybe they should move Porzingus for Ty Lawson or something. Not unthinkable that team will win 40+.
Brooklyn (38 wins): That team showed real life down the stretch with Brook Lopez back in the starting lineup and the addition of Thad Young. Everyone seems to think they are toast. I don't get it. They have been a playoff team two years in a row. I expect them to be back in the playoffs next year.
guys this is seriously getting ridiculous. I cant find a single sportsbook that has the nets at over 33 wins. If you really think they will 35-40 games go place a huge bet and rub the money in our face. Otherwise, you kind of just come off like a jerk. If i say I think the Patriots are going to make the playoffs i don't really need to give much of an explanation. Everyone expects and agrees they most likely will. On the opposite end of that, if I said I thought the Jets would make the playoffs i would need a hell of a lot of advanced statistics and reasoning to make an argument that was compelling against all other predictions and statistics. In the case of the nets backers here, you are the jets fans. Every sports site has the Nets bottom of the east. You feel differently, burden is on you. Dont call people homers for agreeing with the general consensus.
THis is year 4 of people expecting the Nets to bottom out. People have been writing them off since KG and Pierce had a slow start. Whatever. There's no incentive for them to be bad. You're more likely to see Boston change gears and tank than you are to see Brooklyn end up at the bottom of the standings.
2012 49 wins
2013 44 wins
2014 38 wins
2015 ? wins
Seems to be a trend there. Lost one of their better players in DWill and jettisoned some other useful pieces to save money. The Russian has made a huge profit on paper if he wants to sell.
Why do they need an incentive to be bad?
Lopez inexplicably spent the bulk of the season coming off the bench. When he started next to Thad young they played at a 56 win pace.
11-9 when they started together in regular season, 13-13 including playoffs. Neither is a 56 game pace.
Brooklyn finished the season 13-5. My bad... that's a 59 win pace. I was just going off memory from the last dozen times we've had threads on this wishful thinking topic.
But nice point about the playoffs. Based on playoffs, Boston will go 0-82 this season.
I wouldn't count on Brooklyn sucking. They finished the season strong. Brook Lopez and Thad Young made a difference. I think our pick from them will end up in the 12-17 range.
This is exactly what I thought too. Then they traded Plumlee, KG left, Teletovic went down, Johnson got older and had his 5th straight season of decline.
I'm getting pretty bored of this topic, but i'll just briefly touch on this.
- Plumlee was irrelevant in the second half of the season.
- Swapping KG for Thad Young gave them a major positive Jolt
- Teletovic? Lol
- Johnson... eh... still a solid player
- Lopez was beasting over the past three months of the season. That makes a difference as a healthy Lopez is a force down low.
Agree to disagree. Hope you guys end up right.
I still think they can hover around .500 this season.
I still think they can hover around .500 this season.
right, but by comparison you think the C's will suck
I think the C's probably win 40-45.
I think Brooklyn probably wins 35-40. The pick should be in the 12-17 range.
I've never said the C's will suck. It's a phenomenally coached group of role players. I've been on board with the David Lee addition since it was announced... poor man's Kevin Love. The team obviously will not contend, but it's not going to suck. Should be firmly mediocre. It's a bloated roster filled with ok players. If we manage to combine a handful of those ok players/picks and land a superstar, stuff will get interesting around here.
Just not buying the idea that Brooklyn is a bottom team now, though. If they stay healthy, they will be ok.
Chicago and the Spurs might be the best Eastern and Western conference teams in the league. Glad to see Brooklyn start the season 0-2, but I'm still not giving my hopes up.
Double bonus for the Bulls prediction in that last post.
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