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Title: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: rondohondo on February 11, 2013, 09:08:32 PM
it's pretty clear to me Barbosa is gone for the year. Delonte makes the most sense. He knows the system and can play both guard spots ....
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: celticslove on February 11, 2013, 09:38:30 PM
it's pretty clear to me Barbosa is gone for the year. Delonte makes the most sense. He knows the system and can play both guard spots ....
Is this confirmed or just your findings? But yeah id give delonte a go
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: blink on February 11, 2013, 09:42:24 PM
it's pretty clear to me Barbosa is gone for the year. Delonte makes the most sense. He knows the system and can play both guard spots ....

Yeah, has this been reported officially yet?  Just because he left the game gimpy doesn't always mean out for the year.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: rondohondo on February 11, 2013, 09:43:25 PM
it's pretty clear to me Barbosa is gone for the year. Delonte makes the most sense. He knows the system and can play both guard spots ....

Yeah, has this been reported officially yet?  Just because he left the game gimpy doesn't always mean out for the year.
left the game gimpy? He was carried off the floor :-\
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: cman88 on February 11, 2013, 09:43:50 PM
Delonte is the best available guard out there...guy would be a starter on most teams if not for his off the court behavior
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Kane3387 on February 11, 2013, 09:44:33 PM
Looks like he has an ACL. Should be done as well.

I think Delonte is probably the best out there but I would give AI a tryout.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: csfansince60s on February 11, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
As long as he promises to keep his guitar case AND trike in Maryland.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Fred Roberts on February 11, 2013, 09:47:08 PM
I think I'd rather give Christmas a go
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: syn2k12 on February 11, 2013, 09:48:28 PM
give these guys 10 day contracts and if it works out, give them a contract for the season.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 11, 2013, 09:48:58 PM
I think I'd rather give Christmas a go

He has a job in Europe, silly.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: crownontherocks on February 11, 2013, 09:49:25 PM
Doc says Barbosa's knee injury "doesn't look good." MRI tomorrow.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: BostonNative on February 11, 2013, 09:50:04 PM
if he out 4 the season then rebuild  >:( enough of beating a dead horse.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Who on February 11, 2013, 09:50:10 PM
Yeah, Delonte is my favourite option too.

Derek Fisher is probably the next best available option. I would be worried about Doc overplaying Fisher though. Maybe Anthony Carter as third choice. Gosh, Jonny Flynn might be the next best option. Ugly.

(1) Delonte
(2) Fisher
(3) A.Carter
(4) J.Flynn
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 11, 2013, 09:53:06 PM
I'm going to hold out hope it's nothing ore than a sprain until something official is announed.

However, Delonte might be the best option out there if the worst is confirmed.  Not sure if Doc or KG/Piece would want him though.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Who on February 11, 2013, 09:53:45 PM
I liked Terrel Harris in the few minutes I saw of him in Miami. Nice athletic active 6-5 two guard. He wouldn't be a PG option but Doc could leave that to Bradley, Terry and Lee if need be. Go with a true two guard instead if Doc wanted to.

Chris Douglas Roberts could be another interesting option. Solid scorer. Passable defender.

I really like Rodney Carney. Very good defensive player with elite defensive potential. Not the smartest player though. Might be difficult to get him up to speed in such a short period of time. Already short-handed. No alternatives if he struggles. Yeah, probably not Carney, pity.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 11, 2013, 09:54:24 PM
Wonder if Dooling could be convinced to come back
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 11, 2013, 09:54:34 PM
celtics need like 25 players on their team to survive a season. .......need to petition the NBA for less games or more players.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: rondohondo on February 11, 2013, 09:55:45 PM
Wonder if Dooling could be convinced to come back

Good point, he already said he would if Doc wanted him back.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Who on February 11, 2013, 09:56:15 PM
Wonder if Dooling could be convinced to come back
Good idea
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: scaryjerry on February 11, 2013, 10:01:21 PM
Sure
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: OhioGreen on February 11, 2013, 10:01:49 PM
REBUILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DRAFT PICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 11, 2013, 10:03:07 PM
liked that Kevin Mac guy that played on the Redclaws early in the year.

Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: rondohondo on February 11, 2013, 10:03:46 PM
REBUILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DRAFT PICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

totally agree to be honest. Jordan and Bledsoe would be a pretty good return for KG.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 11, 2013, 10:04:06 PM
Delonte?   NO!
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: OhioGreen on February 11, 2013, 10:07:42 PM
REBUILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DRAFT PICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

totally agree to be honest. Jordan and Bledsoe would be a pretty good return for KG.
Not to be morbid, but I just want to hurry and trade PP and KG while they are still healthy!!!!  At this rate we won't have anyone to make trades with!
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: dark19tower on February 11, 2013, 10:19:05 PM
REBUILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DRAFT PICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

totally agree to be honest. Jordan and Bledsoe would be a pretty good return for KG.

Our chance for a title were slim to begin with. Then we lose rondo, sully, and now barbosa...I think it's time to stop kicking the dead horse and realize its TIME. send KG to clippers and get paul somewhere for a title run as well. Its honestly the best the team can do for KG and Pierce at this point give them old guys another run at a title
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: ejk3489 on February 11, 2013, 10:20:54 PM
Don't understand the fascination with Delonte...he's injury prone and a locker room cancer. His second chance with the Celtics has come and gone already. Time to move on.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 11, 2013, 10:21:37 PM
Don't understand the fascination with Delonte...he's injury prone and a locker room cancer. His second chance with the Celtics has come and gone already. Time to move on.

This x2
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Kane3387 on February 11, 2013, 10:24:54 PM
Don't understand the fascination with Delonte...he's injury prone and a locker room cancer. His second chance with the Celtics has come and gone already. Time to move on.

What other legit option is there?
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Adelaide Celt on February 11, 2013, 10:26:48 PM
Don't understand the fascination with Delonte...he's injury prone and a locker room cancer. His second chance with the Celtics has come and gone already. Time to move on.

This x2

I've never been a big fan either but desperate times call for desperate measures. He's the best available FA guard, can be signed cheaply and short term.

I'll be very interested to see what Danny does. Obviously he wasn't his biggest fan either or they would have brought him back after the 2010/2011 season.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 11, 2013, 10:30:21 PM
Don't understand the fascination with Delonte...he's injury prone and a locker room cancer. His second chance with the Celtics has come and gone already. Time to move on.

What other legit option is there?

Play Bradley, Lee & Terry more.  The three of them should be capable of playing 30 minutes a night.  Just need to find a guy to play 10 or so minutes a night.  Not ideal, but at this point ideal is long gone.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: LooseCannon on February 11, 2013, 10:34:09 PM
Don't understand the fascination with Delonte...he's injury prone and a locker room cancer. His second chance with the Celtics has come and gone already. Time to move on.

What other legit option is there?

Andrew Goudelock?
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: JOMVP on February 11, 2013, 10:35:37 PM
Play Pierce at the 2, and give Jeff Green more minutes at the 3.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: syfy9 on February 11, 2013, 10:35:59 PM
Don't understand the fascination with Delonte...he's injury prone and a locker room cancer. His second chance with the Celtics has come and gone already. Time to move on.

What other legit option is there?

Andrew Goudelock?

Yeah, that's not a bad idea. I'd like to get a younger, unproven player than an old guy. Maybe he'll pan out or something.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: apc on February 11, 2013, 10:39:47 PM
Don't understand the fascination with Delonte...he's injury prone and a locker room cancer. His second chance with the Celtics has come and gone already. Time to move on.

This x2
Not fascination, but he knows the system, I'm OK with him being a 10-15 minutes a night guy.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 11, 2013, 10:42:27 PM
JJ. Reddick?
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Adelaide Celt on February 11, 2013, 10:45:31 PM
Right now we need him and he most certainly needs us to save his NBA career.

He'd only be here for the remainder of the season, no training camp to negotiate (we know that's where issues have arose in Boston and Dallas).

One last chance, even if he may not deserve it. What have we got to lose at this point?
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: LooseCannon on February 11, 2013, 10:46:17 PM
Play Pierce at the 2, and give Jeff Green more minutes at the 3.

Pierce playing defense against guards more often will probably lead to more moments such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo7lsZkTaGU

At least the shot didn't go in.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: JOMVP on February 11, 2013, 10:52:09 PM
Play Pierce at the 2, and give Jeff Green more minutes at the 3.

Pierce playing defense against guards more often will probably lead to more moments such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo7lsZkTaGU

At least the shot didn't go in.

Atleast he didnt tear his ACL on that play.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: ozman on February 11, 2013, 10:54:30 PM
Play Pierce at the 2, and give Jeff Green more minutes at the 3.

Pierce playing defense against guards more often will probably lead to more moments such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo7lsZkTaGU

At least the shot didn't go in.

Atleast he didnt tear his ACL on that play.

yeah, lucky it was only his self esteem that was torn
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on February 11, 2013, 10:55:55 PM
No. An injury-prone team doesn't need anymore injury-prone players.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 11, 2013, 11:30:34 PM
Id give a shot at someone else. No disrespect to Delonte.

I already said that Terrence Williams is available, he could be of use as a penetrator and a defender.

Jonny Flynn maybe?

Or that kid from the Summer League that shined bright. I forgot his name though.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 11, 2013, 11:51:36 PM
I'm a Delonte, fan he plays hard, can knock down shots, defend and attack the hoop.

I think he is difficult to deal with off the court which is probably why he won't be brought in.
Title: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: Spinmove00 on February 12, 2013, 08:29:39 AM
Delonte West would be the perfect pick-up for our team right now.  He has good size, knows the system, can play point guard, plays great defense and has the heart of a Celtic.  Danny needs to be on the phone ASAP!
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 12, 2013, 08:33:13 AM
Ugh. No. Please lord no!
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Bankshot on February 12, 2013, 08:42:47 AM
JJ. Reddick?

I would like this.  Not sure how we get him, but under no circumstances to I want Delonte West on this team.  No more locker room disruptions. >:(
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: Humble G on February 12, 2013, 08:44:22 AM
Id give a shot at someone else. No disrespect to Delonte.

I already said that Terrence Williams is available, he could be of use as a penetrator and a defender.

Jonny Flynn maybe?

Or that kid from the Summer League that shined bright. I forgot his name though.

Are you talking about Dionte Christmas? I believe he is playing overseas like Moscow or somethin like that
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 12, 2013, 08:55:41 AM
Play Pierce at the 2, and give Jeff Green more minutes at the 3.

Pierce playing defense against guards more often will probably lead to more moments such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo7lsZkTaGU

At least the shot didn't go in.

I love how Nelson doesnt even come close on that shot. Usually when a player causes another one to fall down like that they're so jacked up that they finish the play, Nelson wasn't even close.
Title: Re: Delonte now?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 12, 2013, 09:03:00 AM
I'm a Delonte, fan he plays hard, can knock down shots, defend and attack the hoop.

I think he is difficult to deal with off the court which is probably why he won't be brought in.

Exactly. If it was just his talent we were speaking of, he would be perfect tor this team
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: PRIDE on February 12, 2013, 09:16:51 AM
Delonte is the best option.

He's an instant fit chemistry wise, having played with Jeff Green in Seattle, Jason Terry in Dallas and of course playing here twice. The Celtics players know Delonte's game and he knows our system.

As long as Pierce and KG are on this roster we are in win now mode. We need a proven playoff performer and I throw up in my mouth at the thought of Derek Fisher in a Celtics uniform.

DWest can play both guards positions, has playoff experience, shoots the 3 well, good defender and he helps on the glass.

Bring Back REDZ!
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: celtics2 on February 12, 2013, 10:28:06 AM
Yep, Delonte would guarantee us a good draft pick!
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on February 12, 2013, 10:31:02 AM
Delonte would be perfect: an injury-prone player on an injury-prone team. Sign him up!
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: Roy H. on February 12, 2013, 10:32:20 AM
Delonte would be perfect: an injury-prone player on an injury-prone team. Sign him up!

Maybe it would work like a reverse jinx.  Delonte would probably finish the rest of the season completely healthy.
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: Kane3387 on February 12, 2013, 10:48:15 AM
What other real options are there?

He knows the system. Has run it on two seperate occasions.

He played with kg.
He played with pierce.
He played with green.
He played with jet in Dallas.

He's the most talented player out there by far at the guard position.
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: TripleOT on February 12, 2013, 11:40:13 AM
Delonte was playing good ball his last time with the Cs before breaking his wrist.  I think this team needs a little crazy, but I don't think the coaches, front office, and ownership feels the same way. 
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 12, 2013, 12:10:33 PM
Quote
Delonte was playing good ball his last time with the Cs before breaking his wrist.  I think this team needs a little crazy, but I don't think the coaches, front office, and ownership feels the same way.

You'd have to be crazy to want this! JK

He is fragile and has stability issues, I think we are done with him.  There are reasons he is not on an NBA team but it might be worth it to rile up LeBron.
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 12, 2013, 12:11:38 PM
Yep, Delonte would guarantee us a good draft pick!

Haha. Love it!
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: Lucky17 on February 12, 2013, 12:13:32 PM
I think there will be several guards available once the trade deadline passes and buyouts start happening. No need to panic right now.
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: LooseCannon on February 12, 2013, 12:24:31 PM
Maybe it is in Delonte West's best interests to be away from the NBA for a while, whether he realizes it or not.

Also, keep in mind that he agreed to go to the D-League and put his name into the pool of players that teams can draw from, but then refused to report once he heard that the Mavericks have no intention of bringing him back this season if he plays well.  I'd rather deal with Royce White's mental illness than Delonte West's.
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: Edgar on February 12, 2013, 12:41:14 PM
yay

Delote West is my boy!
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: LooseCannon on February 12, 2013, 01:00:38 PM
I'm not a fan of bringing in West, but if the Celtics were considering it, I would suggest that he be asked to sign a ten-day contract first so he can be evaluated and if he in any way hesitates or refuses, then take at as a sign that he will be disruptive instead of buying into the team concept and move on and don't waste any more time on him.
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: kozlodoev on February 12, 2013, 01:18:15 PM
I'm not a fan of bringing in West, but if the Celtics were considering it, I would suggest that he be asked to sign a ten-day contract first so he can be evaluated and if he in any way hesitates or refuses, then take at as a sign that he will be disruptive instead of buying into the team concept and move on and don't waste any more time on him.
Yup. That's going to fly very well with someone who refused to play for the Dallas minor league affiliate after learning that he won't be resigned.

All in all, do you not wonder why we didn't bring him back when we could? Or why he was suspended twice and ultimately cut for "conduct detrimental to the team"?
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: Kuberski33 on February 12, 2013, 01:25:39 PM
Delonte wouldn't cost anything and he can probably run the offense a little more effectively than Bradley at this point.  i.e. against decent defense you stand a better of chance of PP and KG getting the ball in their spots with Delonte vs anyone else including Dooling.

Anyone else you're bringing in off the street with no idea whether he can mesh with what's already here. 

And mid season guard acquisitions have rarely worked here in the KG in era.
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 12, 2013, 01:35:25 PM
Yeah, we can't really avoid this anymore. There are simply no other quality guards out there, and we need another guard real bad.

Also another big, but that's been the case all season.

Soldier on, C's.
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: LooseCannon on February 12, 2013, 01:49:48 PM
I'm not a fan of bringing in West, but if the Celtics were considering it, I would suggest that he be asked to sign a ten-day contract first so he can be evaluated and if he in any way hesitates or refuses, then take at as a sign that he will be disruptive instead of buying into the team concept and move on and don't waste any more time on him.
Yup. That's going to fly very well with someone who refused to play for the Dallas minor league affiliate after learning that he won't be resigned.

All in all, do you not wonder why we didn't bring him back when we could? Or why he was suspended twice and ultimately cut for "conduct detrimental to the team"?

I proposed that idea in the hopes that Delonte West would say no and the team would move on to someone else.
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: cman88 on February 12, 2013, 05:15:42 PM
other than fighting Von wafer I cant think of any trouble that Delonte caused on the C's that year

before Dallas let him go he was averagine

9.6PPG and 3.2APG on 46% shooting...thats pretty solid numbers if you can handle him for the rest of the season
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: crownontherocks on February 12, 2013, 05:21:13 PM
Celtics are not interested in west
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 12, 2013, 05:37:08 PM
Celtics are not interested in west

They better be interested in west.
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: KGs Knee on February 12, 2013, 05:42:28 PM
Celtics are not interested in west

Expected, and probably for the best.
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: crownontherocks on February 12, 2013, 05:54:57 PM
Celtics are not interested in west

They better be interested in west.

The Celtics are not considering signing free agent PG Delonte West.
The Celtics are looking for a stopgap point guard option like Shelvin Mack to replace Leandro Barbosa (knee) and Rajon Rondo (knee), but they don't want to deal with West. He's been out of the league since last season and recently declined an invite to rehab his game/image in the D-League

Source: Adrian Wojnarowski on Twitter
Title: Re: Time to get Delonte West
Post by: Birdman on February 12, 2013, 05:56:32 PM
Celtics knows West more than any of us. So if they dont want him, then they know he isnt worth the trouble.