I totally disagree with the idea that Semi is going to be a rotation player next season. The only way that happens is if there is a serious injury. He’s a great story and has exceeded expectations but if the Celtics are healthy he will be a fringe player and with not be part of the rotation.Agree. Especially if Morris and Hayward are healthy for the season, or at least most of it
frist[dang]. >:( i will settle for being on the frist page at least. that is something.
I totally disagree with the idea that Semi is going to be a rotation player next season. The only way that happens is if there is a serious injury. He’s a great story and has exceeded expectations but if the Celtics are healthy he will be a fringe player and with not be part of the rotation.Agree. Especially if Morris and Hayward are healthy for the season, or at least most of it
Any chance Robert Williams plays tonight? I keep hoping he’ll play and then they say he’s out again
He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Before today’s game every time they announced Robert Williams as being out for the game I was annoyed but after hearing he’s out again tonight now I’m more worried. If this artery condition wasn’t such a big deal then there’s absolutely no way a bruised knee would keep him out over a week. I’m starting to think that this knee condition is more serious than they are making it out to be.
We can’t have a player that if he simply bumps knees with another player misses 4 games and counting, that’s way too brittle for my liking. At first I was excited when we picked Robert Williams but now I’m just worried and annoyed at the whole situation.
Before today’s game every time they announced Robert Williams as being out for the game I was annoyed but after hearing he’s out again tonight now I’m more worried. If this artery condition wasn’t such a big deal then there’s absolutely no way a bruised knee would keep him out over a week. I’m starting to think that this knee condition is more serious than they are making it out to be.Understood but this is just speculation. It was a high risk-high reward type pick and we have to be patient.
We can’t have a player that if he simply bumps knees with another player misses 4 games and counting, that’s way too brittle for my liking. At first I was excited when we picked Robert Williams but now I’m just worried and annoyed at the whole situation.
Before today’s game every time they announced Robert Williams as being out for the game I was annoyed but after hearing he’s out again tonight now I’m more worried. If this artery condition wasn’t such a big deal then there’s absolutely no way a bruised knee would keep him out over a week. I’m starting to think that this knee condition is more serious than they are making it out to be.Understood but this is just speculation. It was a high risk-high reward type pick and we have to be patient.
We can’t have a player that if he simply bumps knees with another player misses 4 games and counting, that’s way too brittle for my liking. At first I was excited when we picked Robert Williams but now I’m just worried and annoyed at the whole situation.
Before today’s game every time they announced Robert Williams as being out for the game I was annoyed but after hearing he’s out again tonight now I’m more worried. If this artery condition wasn’t such a big deal then there’s absolutely no way a bruised knee would keep him out over a week. I’m starting to think that this knee condition is more serious than they are making it out to be.
We can’t have a player that if he simply bumps knees with another player misses 4 games and counting, that’s way too brittle for my liking. At first I was excited when we picked Robert Williams but now I’m just worried and annoyed at the whole situation.
Meh it's tendinitis in SL. They won't play him in meaningless games unless he's 100% and why should they
Before today’s game every time they announced Robert Williams as being out for the game I was annoyed but after hearing he’s out again tonight now I’m more worried. If this artery condition wasn’t such a big deal then there’s absolutely no way a bruised knee would keep him out over a week. I’m starting to think that this knee condition is more serious than they are making it out to be.
We can’t have a player that if he simply bumps knees with another player misses 4 games and counting, that’s way too brittle for my liking. At first I was excited when we picked Robert Williams but now I’m just worried and annoyed at the whole situation.
Before today’s game every time they announced Robert Williams as being out for the game I was annoyed but after hearing he’s out again tonight now I’m more worried. If this artery condition wasn’t such a big deal then there’s absolutely no way a bruised knee would keep him out over a week. I’m starting to think that this knee condition is more serious than they are making it out to be.
We can’t have a player that if he simply bumps knees with another player misses 4 games and counting, that’s way too brittle for my liking. At first I was excited when we picked Robert Williams but now I’m just worried and annoyed at the whole situation.
Respectfully, I think you’re overreacting a bit. Is his arterial condition even related to why he’s out? My understanding is that he’s out to simple tendinitis in his knee that he was dealing with before the draft, not something related to the arterial condition.
Regardless, they’re going to play it safe because it’s just summer league.
Before today’s game every time they announced Robert Williams as being out for the game I was annoyed but after hearing he’s out again tonight now I’m more worried. If this artery condition wasn’t such a big deal then there’s absolutely no way a bruised knee would keep him out over a week. I’m starting to think that this knee condition is more serious than they are making it out to be.
We can’t have a player that if he simply bumps knees with another player misses 4 games and counting, that’s way too brittle for my liking. At first I was excited when we picked Robert Williams but now I’m just worried and annoyed at the whole situation.
Respectfully, I think you’re overreacting a bit. Is his arterial condition even related to why he’s out? My understanding is that he’s out to simple tendinitis in his knee that he was dealing with before the draft, not something related to the arterial condition.
Regardless, they’re going to play it safe because it’s just summer league.
You’re entitled to that opinion and I probably am overreacting. He’s just the only reason I wanted to watch Summer League and they keep saying he might play and I feel like it’s just a lie at this point and that they are going to keep him out till at least the preseason which is fine, just wished they’d come out and say that instead of giving us the run around.
Gary Washburn @GwashburnGlobe
about 10 minutes ago
Could be the last #Celtics game for G Kadeem Allen. According to an NBA source, #Celtics will release Allen from his two-way contract and add another player on a two-way deal next week.
Nce littrel 7-0 run there. I have admit that Uthoff looks good. I wasn’t so impressed in the 1st couple of games.
In other Cs newsAw sorry to hear, I liked Allen. Wonder who they like better?QuoteGary Washburn @GwashburnGlobe
about 10 minutes ago
Could be the last #Celtics game for G Kadeem Allen. According to an NBA source, #Celtics will release Allen from his two-way contract and add another player on a two-way deal next week.
Semi can’t hit a [dang] barn and Uthoff looks like SL Chris Bosh out there.
Semi’s inconsistent shot is the biggest concern of SL. I was hoping for improvement from last year.Semi can’t hit a [dang] barn and Uthoff looks like SL Chris Bosh out there.
I like Uthoff, too bad he won't make the roster...
Semi can’t hit a [dang] barn and Uthoff looks like SL Chris Bosh out there.
I like Uthoff, too bad he won't make the roster...
Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
my first guess would be uhtoff. but we will all learn soon enough.In other Cs newsAw sorry to hear, I liked Allen. Wonder who they like better?QuoteGary Washburn @GwashburnGlobe
about 10 minutes ago
Could be the last #Celtics game for G Kadeem Allen. According to an NBA source, #Celtics will release Allen from his two-way contract and add another player on a two-way deal next week.
Henry has a great motor...
Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
Henry has a great motor...
And poor court vision
Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
FWIW, Brad Stevens says Semi is an elite defender.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
Yeah, if the team is healthy he won’t see a lot of minutes. But that’s a sign of how very deep the team is. If they had to put him in you can have confidence in his defense and you can have him sit in the corners and the other team can’t leave him alone.
FWIW, Brad Stevens says Semi is an elite defender.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
Yeah, if the team is healthy he won’t see a lot of minutes. But that’s a sign of how very deep the team is. If they had to put him in you can have confidence in his defense and you can have him sit in the corners and the other team can’t leave him alone.
FWIW, Brad Stevens says Semi is an elite defender.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
Yeah, if the team is healthy he won’t see a lot of minutes. But that’s a sign of how very deep the team is. If they had to put him in you can have confidence in his defense and you can have him sit in the corners and the other team can’t leave him alone.
Semi’s inconsistent shot is the biggest concern of SL. I was hoping for improvement from last year.Semi can’t hit a [dang] barn and Uthoff looks like SL Chris Bosh out there.
I like Uthoff, too bad he won't make the roster...
Trey Davis with the handle.
Trey Davis with the handle.
Great pass too!
Trey Davis with the handle.
Great pass too!
highlight of the game for me so far....but I haven't watched the whole thing
Trey Davis with the handle.
Great pass too!
highlight of the game for me so far....but I haven't watched the whole thing
Best play of summer league so far.
Trey Davis with the handle.
Great pass too!
highlight of the game for me so far....but I haven't watched the whole thing
Best play of summer league so far.
I just haven't been excited about the SL games this year, so I haven't watched as many games.
Yabu with back to back to back great passes. The first one the guy missed the layup.
He has higher skill than many cbloggers give him credit for, but he lacks rhythm.
Yabu with back to back to back great passes. The first one the guy missed the layup.
He has higher skill than many cbloggers give him credit for, but he lacks rhythm.
He’s mostly been pretty good with the ball tonight, but those were easy, wide open passes into set plays.
Yabu with back to back to back great passes. The first one the guy missed the layup.
He has higher skill than many cbloggers give him credit for, but he lacks rhythm.
He’s mostly been pretty good with the ball tonight, but those were easy, wide open passes into set plays.
Yabu has some skill. But I am disappointed that he isn't dominating more against summer league competition. IMO, I don't see a lot of improvement over the last year.
This game could have an exciting finish.How did you know?
Yabu has some skill. But I am disappointed that he isn't dominating more against summer league competition. IMO, I don't see a lot of improvement over the last year.i agree. but he does corral a herd of rebounds in these games. today he had 10 in 28 minutes.
This game could have an exciting finish.How did you know?
Yabu has some skill. But I am disappointed that he isn't dominating more against summer league competition. IMO, I don't see a lot of improvement over the last year.
He is getting fouled a lot with no calls but he should be playing better...
Henry can not defend at all....
The problem with evaluating talent in SL is that your teammates are inferior talent.Yabu has some skill. But I am disappointed that he isn't dominating more against summer league competition. IMO, I don't see a lot of improvement over the last year.
He is getting fouled a lot with no calls but he should be playing better...
I want to like Yabu more than I do...but I know summer league isn't the best place to evaluate a player. Unfortunately he won't be getting more minutes this coming season unless someone gets hurt.
Henry can not defend at all....
He's made some pretty big defensive plays. I think he played that one pretty well. He was on an island, almost forced a turnover, and then contested a tough runner.
Henry can not defend at all....
He's made some pretty big defensive plays. I think he played that one pretty well. He was on an island, almost forced a turnover, and then contested a tough runner.
He's had a good game on one end but guys have been blazing by him all game on the other end...
Henry has gotten the most minutes in SL...they going to sign him?Possible replacement for Kadeem Allen.
Henry can not defend at all....
He's made some pretty big defensive plays. I think he played that one pretty well. He was on an island, almost forced a turnover, and then contested a tough runner.
He's had a good game on one end but guys have been blazing by him all game on the other end...
That's not what I've seen from him.
Unless I missed a quote somewhere, I thought Brad said he could be an elite defender one day, and wasn't too far from it. That 's not the same as Brad saying he is right now an elite defender. I've never denied Semi is a good defender, a very good defender even. He's just not elite right now, which is actually what Brad said. I certainly would not dispute Brad's judgement, but I also think coaches engage in trying to pump up the confidence of young guys in an effort to get max effort out of them.FWIW, Brad Stevens says Semi is an elite defender.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
Yeah, if the team is healthy he won’t see a lot of minutes. But that’s a sign of how very deep the team is. If they had to put him in you can have confidence in his defense and you can have him sit in the corners and the other team can’t leave him alone.
I would say Semi is def at least an above-average defender...
Maybe, I've never claimed any special insight. I just haven't seen enough to make me think he's going to be anything more than a defensive sub off the bench. I don't understand why so many people think he's going to be a big time player. What have you all seen in NBA action that gives you such confidence.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
I don’t think much of your scouting. You’re going to be surprised.
semi's defense against the greek freak was elite, he was the best on the C's in that roleI don't agree. He had a couple of really amazing stops on Giannis it is true, but as I recall, Giannis was able to score at his normal rate against Semi. It's certainly impressive that he didn't get crushed by Giannis, but keep in mind Giannis' game is mostly a function of his athleticism, not great moves like Hakeem. Semi has the physical skills to stay with Giannis, but he makes his share of defensive mistakes.
Maybe, I've never claimed any special insight. I just haven't seen enough to make me think he's going to be anything more than a defensive sub off the bench. I don't understand why so many people think he's going to be a big time player. What have you all seen in NBA action that gives you such confidence.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
I don’t think much of your scouting. You’re going to be surprised.
His defense will get him on the roster, it will get him some spot minutes when rotation guys get in foul trouble or need a night off. It makes him playable when a rotation guy goes down with an injury. But unless he finds a way to contribute on offense, I don't see why they would put him in the rotation. Hayward, Tatum, Brown, Morris, Theis and even Smart should get minutes before Semi.
He's the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th. How many minutes can we expect the 11th or 12th man to get?
that he did not get crushed was the best we had--making Giannis work as hard as Semi did was a huge factor in the C' defeating the freaksemi's defense against the greek freak was elite, he was the best on the C's in that roleI don't agree. He had a couple of really amazing stops on Giannis it is true, but as I recall, Giannis was able to score at his normal rate against Semi. It's certainly impressive that he didn't get crushed by Giannis, but keep in mind Giannis' game is mostly a function of his athleticism, not great moves like Hakeem. Semi has the physical skills to stay with Giannis, but he makes his share of defensive mistakes.
I agree with all of this. And the fact that his three point shooting has not looked any better in summer league is concerning. If he can't shoot threes in summer league, how can we possibly expect him to shoot them in the NBA.Maybe, I've never claimed any special insight. I just haven't seen enough to make me think he's going to be anything more than a defensive sub off the bench. I don't understand why so many people think he's going to be a big time player. What have you all seen in NBA action that gives you such confidence.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
I don’t think much of your scouting. You’re going to be surprised.
His defense will get him on the roster, it will get him some spot minutes when rotation guys get in foul trouble or need a night off. It makes him playable when a rotation guy goes down with an injury. But unless he finds a way to contribute on offense, I don't see why they would put him in the rotation. Hayward, Tatum, Brown, Morris, Theis and even Smart should get minutes before Semi.
He's the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th. How many minutes can we expect the 11th or 12th man to get?
Agreed.
People get really carried away with this elite defender stuff. He plays good positional defense, but he's doesn't have the length to contest many shots and isn't going to be active in passing lanes either.
Offensively he doesn't have one single skill that you can say is even average. For his position, 3/4, he's a below average shooter, ball handler, passer, and doesn't have great instincts moving without the ball like a Hayward, Bradley, or even J. Bird have. People might look at his low 30's shooting percentage and think it's not too bad, but these are wide open shots he's taking and mostly shorter corner shots. Teams just ignore him, using his defender to help, which hurts are spacing and bogs down our offense.
semi's defense against the greek freak was elite, he was the best on the C's in that roleI don't agree. He had a couple of really amazing stops on Giannis it is true, but as I recall, Giannis was able to score at his normal rate against Semi. It's certainly impressive that he didn't get crushed by Giannis, but keep in mind Giannis' game is mostly a function of his athleticism, not great moves like Hakeem. Semi has the physical skills to stay with Giannis, but he makes his share of defensive mistakes.
I agree with all of this. And the fact that his three point shooting has not looked any better in summer league is concerning. If he can't shoot threes in summer league, how can we possibly expect him to shoot them in the NBA.Maybe, I've never claimed any special insight. I just haven't seen enough to make me think he's going to be anything more than a defensive sub off the bench. I don't understand why so many people think he's going to be a big time player. What have you all seen in NBA action that gives you such confidence.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
I don’t think much of your scouting. You’re going to be surprised.
His defense will get him on the roster, it will get him some spot minutes when rotation guys get in foul trouble or need a night off. It makes him playable when a rotation guy goes down with an injury. But unless he finds a way to contribute on offense, I don't see why they would put him in the rotation. Hayward, Tatum, Brown, Morris, Theis and even Smart should get minutes before Semi.
He's the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th. How many minutes can we expect the 11th or 12th man to get?
Agreed.
People get really carried away with this elite defender stuff. He plays good positional defense, but he's doesn't have the length to contest many shots and isn't going to be active in passing lanes either.
Offensively he doesn't have one single skill that you can say is even average. For his position, 3/4, he's a below average shooter, ball handler, passer, and doesn't have great instincts moving without the ball like a Hayward, Bradley, or even J. Bird have. People might look at his low 30's shooting percentage and think it's not too bad, but these are wide open shots he's taking and mostly shorter corner shots. Teams just ignore him, using his defender to help, which hurts are spacing and bogs down our offense.
Don't get me wrong, he's impressed on defense, and he definitely helped on Giannis. But I think that if you had a healthy Hayward on the roster, Semi wouldn't have played very much and the Celts would have won the series more easily. Their offensive woes held them back much more than any defensive problems. And Hayward is a pretty good defender too, while also being an excellent offensive player. It's hard to argue that Semi should get any minutes ahead of Hayward or Tatum, or Brown, or Morris, or Smart, or Theis, or Baynes, or Horford...that he did not get crushed was the best we had--making Giannis work as hard as Semi did was a huge factor in the C' defeating the freaksemi's defense against the greek freak was elite, he was the best on the C's in that roleI don't agree. He had a couple of really amazing stops on Giannis it is true, but as I recall, Giannis was able to score at his normal rate against Semi. It's certainly impressive that he didn't get crushed by Giannis, but keep in mind Giannis' game is mostly a function of his athleticism, not great moves like Hakeem. Semi has the physical skills to stay with Giannis, but he makes his share of defensive mistakes.
But he has also shown that he can't shoot well in the NBA. Why are we supposed to think that is going to change?I agree with all of this. And the fact that his three point shooting has not looked any better in summer league is concerning. If he can't shoot threes in summer league, how can we possibly expect him to shoot them in the NBA.Maybe, I've never claimed any special insight. I just haven't seen enough to make me think he's going to be anything more than a defensive sub off the bench. I don't understand why so many people think he's going to be a big time player. What have you all seen in NBA action that gives you such confidence.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
I don’t think much of your scouting. You’re going to be surprised.
His defense will get him on the roster, it will get him some spot minutes when rotation guys get in foul trouble or need a night off. It makes him playable when a rotation guy goes down with an injury. But unless he finds a way to contribute on offense, I don't see why they would put him in the rotation. Hayward, Tatum, Brown, Morris, Theis and even Smart should get minutes before Semi.
He's the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th. How many minutes can we expect the 11th or 12th man to get?
Agreed.
People get really carried away with this elite defender stuff. He plays good positional defense, but he's doesn't have the length to contest many shots and isn't going to be active in passing lanes either.
Offensively he doesn't have one single skill that you can say is even average. For his position, 3/4, he's a below average shooter, ball handler, passer, and doesn't have great instincts moving without the ball like a Hayward, Bradley, or even J. Bird have. People might look at his low 30's shooting percentage and think it's not too bad, but these are wide open shots he's taking and mostly shorter corner shots. Teams just ignore him, using his defender to help, which hurts are spacing and bogs down our offense.
Who shoots well in summer league?
semi's defense against the greek freak was elite, he was the best on the C's in that roleGiannis shot much better against the Celtics in the playoffs than he did for the entire regular season.
he was crucial to that series
But he has also shown that he can't shoot well in the NBA. Why are we supposed to think that is going to change?I agree with all of this. And the fact that his three point shooting has not looked any better in summer league is concerning. If he can't shoot threes in summer league, how can we possibly expect him to shoot them in the NBA.Maybe, I've never claimed any special insight. I just haven't seen enough to make me think he's going to be anything more than a defensive sub off the bench. I don't understand why so many people think he's going to be a big time player. What have you all seen in NBA action that gives you such confidence.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
I don’t think much of your scouting. You’re going to be surprised.
His defense will get him on the roster, it will get him some spot minutes when rotation guys get in foul trouble or need a night off. It makes him playable when a rotation guy goes down with an injury. But unless he finds a way to contribute on offense, I don't see why they would put him in the rotation. Hayward, Tatum, Brown, Morris, Theis and even Smart should get minutes before Semi.
He's the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th. How many minutes can we expect the 11th or 12th man to get?
Agreed.
People get really carried away with this elite defender stuff. He plays good positional defense, but he's doesn't have the length to contest many shots and isn't going to be active in passing lanes either.
Offensively he doesn't have one single skill that you can say is even average. For his position, 3/4, he's a below average shooter, ball handler, passer, and doesn't have great instincts moving without the ball like a Hayward, Bradley, or even J. Bird have. People might look at his low 30's shooting percentage and think it's not too bad, but these are wide open shots he's taking and mostly shorter corner shots. Teams just ignore him, using his defender to help, which hurts are spacing and bogs down our offense.
Who shoots well in summer league?
And frequently they are not better, and so far we have seen no signs that he is better in the key area, three point shooting. I also worry that he is not going to get an opportunity to play. How can he get better if he doesn't play? Right now the Celts have too many guys ahead of him who should be playing.But he has also shown that he can't shoot well in the NBA. Why are we supposed to think that is going to change?I agree with all of this. And the fact that his three point shooting has not looked any better in summer league is concerning. If he can't shoot threes in summer league, how can we possibly expect him to shoot them in the NBA.Maybe, I've never claimed any special insight. I just haven't seen enough to make me think he's going to be anything more than a defensive sub off the bench. I don't understand why so many people think he's going to be a big time player. What have you all seen in NBA action that gives you such confidence.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
I don’t think much of your scouting. You’re going to be surprised.
His defense will get him on the roster, it will get him some spot minutes when rotation guys get in foul trouble or need a night off. It makes him playable when a rotation guy goes down with an injury. But unless he finds a way to contribute on offense, I don't see why they would put him in the rotation. Hayward, Tatum, Brown, Morris, Theis and even Smart should get minutes before Semi.
He's the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th. How many minutes can we expect the 11th or 12th man to get?
Agreed.
People get really carried away with this elite defender stuff. He plays good positional defense, but he's doesn't have the length to contest many shots and isn't going to be active in passing lanes either.
Offensively he doesn't have one single skill that you can say is even average. For his position, 3/4, he's a below average shooter, ball handler, passer, and doesn't have great instincts moving without the ball like a Hayward, Bradley, or even J. Bird have. People might look at his low 30's shooting percentage and think it's not too bad, but these are wide open shots he's taking and mostly shorter corner shots. Teams just ignore him, using his defender to help, which hurts are spacing and bogs down our offense.
Who shoots well in summer league?
Because he was just a rookie last year, and frequently rookies are much better in their second season.
so, since all posters are making good points backed up by historical precedent, i guess the only way for us to know about his shooting is to wait and see? ;DAnd frequently they are not better, and so far we have seen no signs that he is better in the key area, three point shooting. I also worry that he is not going to get an opportunity to play. How can he get better if he doesn't play? Right now the Celts have too many guys ahead of him who should be playing.But he has also shown that he can't shoot well in the NBA. Why are we supposed to think that is going to change?I agree with all of this. And the fact that his three point shooting has not looked any better in summer league is concerning. If he can't shoot threes in summer league, how can we possibly expect him to shoot them in the NBA.Maybe, I've never claimed any special insight. I just haven't seen enough to make me think he's going to be anything more than a defensive sub off the bench. I don't understand why so many people think he's going to be a big time player. What have you all seen in NBA action that gives you such confidence.Semi is not elite or even near elite in any facet of the game. He’s a pretty good defender, which is impressive given he was drafted in the second round, but calling him elite is a major exaggeration. As for a minutes prediction, I’d guess five minutes per game or so, with a lot more dnp-cd’s than a lot of people think unless an injury opens a spot for him. If Smart stays he is the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th if Wanamaker can contribute. Hard to see a guy that far down the roster who can’t shoot, pass, dribble or finish at the rim getting a lot of time. The Celts have much better options.He is not elite. He’s a good defender. He can’t hit threes. There will be few minutes.
Care to make a minutes prediction?
I take it you would at least agree that he’s elite at staying in front of his man and getting a hand up to contest (i.e.: quick hips and shoulders combined with anticipation), and that those are the most important skills for a defender. If not then we don’t need to waste time getting into the finer points.
You may remember after a game with Phoenix this past season that Brad remarked on his defense, saying something like he was on his way to being an elite defender, “and I’m not sure he isn’t there already.”
I don’t think much of your scouting. You’re going to be surprised.
His defense will get him on the roster, it will get him some spot minutes when rotation guys get in foul trouble or need a night off. It makes him playable when a rotation guy goes down with an injury. But unless he finds a way to contribute on offense, I don't see why they would put him in the rotation. Hayward, Tatum, Brown, Morris, Theis and even Smart should get minutes before Semi.
He's the 11th man on the roster at best, maybe 12th. How many minutes can we expect the 11th or 12th man to get?
Agreed.
People get really carried away with this elite defender stuff. He plays good positional defense, but he's doesn't have the length to contest many shots and isn't going to be active in passing lanes either.
Offensively he doesn't have one single skill that you can say is even average. For his position, 3/4, he's a below average shooter, ball handler, passer, and doesn't have great instincts moving without the ball like a Hayward, Bradley, or even J. Bird have. People might look at his low 30's shooting percentage and think it's not too bad, but these are wide open shots he's taking and mostly shorter corner shots. Teams just ignore him, using his defender to help, which hurts are spacing and bogs down our offense.
Who shoots well in summer league?
Because he was just a rookie last year, and frequently rookies are much better in their second season.