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Title: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: KG Living Legend on November 17, 2018, 11:50:30 PM

 Houston paid a little more than they wanted to keep him. They are old and have little upside. If it continues to go bad they may go into rebuild mode.

 Celtics get the best player in the deal and much needed front court help.

Capella
Horford
Tatum
Hayward
Irving

Morris, Smart, Semi, Theis, Timelord, Yabu
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: byennie on November 17, 2018, 11:57:01 PM
I'd be tempted if we were talking Gobert. Capela is talented but I question how much he benefits from being in Houston.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: gouki88 on November 18, 2018, 12:14:31 AM
He's definitely good, and still only 24, but I'd likely hesitate before doing this. As byennie mentioned, he may benefit a lot by playing next to Harden and Paul.

A big I'd be more interested in would be Jarrett Allen, but I doubt the Nets move him. Huge fan of him, RHJ and LeVert
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: nickagneta on November 18, 2018, 12:20:33 AM
Be patient. We may already have Capella on our roster. I could easily see Williams developing into a Capella quality player in 2-3 years.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: smokeablount on November 18, 2018, 12:21:57 AM
He's definitely good, and still only 24, but I'd likely hesitate before doing this. As byennie mentioned, he may benefit a lot by playing next to Harden and Paul.

A big I'd be more interested in would be Jarrett Allen, but I doubt the Nets move him. Huge fan of him, RHJ and LeVert

RHJ as in Rondae Hollis Jefferson? That’s the guy I wanted to draft over Rozier at the time, but I didn’t know he was doing well now.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: gouki88 on November 18, 2018, 12:49:12 AM
He's definitely good, and still only 24, but I'd likely hesitate before doing this. As byennie mentioned, he may benefit a lot by playing next to Harden and Paul.

A big I'd be more interested in would be Jarrett Allen, but I doubt the Nets move him. Huge fan of him, RHJ and LeVert

RHJ as in Rondae Hollis Jefferson? That’s the guy I wanted to draft over Rozier at the time, but I didn’t know he was doing well now.
The very same. He’s taking his time coming back from an adductor strain, but he averaged 14/7/2.5 with elite defence in under 30mpg. He’s one of the best rebounding and defending wings in the league. Wish we had him over Rozier, much the same way I wish we had LeVert over Yabu
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 18, 2018, 01:52:31 AM
No, too much to give up.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: bopna on November 18, 2018, 03:54:38 AM
He's definitely good, and still only 24, but I'd likely hesitate before doing this. As byennie mentioned, he may benefit a lot by playing next to Harden and Paul.

A big I'd be more interested in would be Jarrett Allen, but I doubt the Nets move him. Huge fan of him, RHJ and LeVert

RHJ as in Rondae Hollis Jefferson? That’s the guy I wanted to draft over Rozier at the time, but I didn’t know he was doing well now.
The very same. He’s taking his time coming back from an adductor strain, but he averaged 14/7/2.5 with elite defence in under 30mpg. He’s one of the best rebounding and defending wings in the league. Wish we had him over Rozier, much the same way I wish we had LeVert over Yabu

Danny is just terrible at drafting utility guys.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: gouki88 on November 18, 2018, 04:28:57 AM
He's definitely good, and still only 24, but I'd likely hesitate before doing this. As byennie mentioned, he may benefit a lot by playing next to Harden and Paul.

A big I'd be more interested in would be Jarrett Allen, but I doubt the Nets move him. Huge fan of him, RHJ and LeVert

RHJ as in Rondae Hollis Jefferson? That’s the guy I wanted to draft over Rozier at the time, but I didn’t know he was doing well now.
The very same. He’s taking his time coming back from an adductor strain, but he averaged 14/7/2.5 with elite defence in under 30mpg. He’s one of the best rebounding and defending wings in the league. Wish we had him over Rozier, much the same way I wish we had LeVert over Yabu

Danny is just terrible at drafting utility guys.
I dunno about that. Danny has drafted plenty of useful guys over the years in lower spots. Tony Allen, Delonte West, Ryan Gomes, AB, E'Twaun Moore, Olynyk, Smart and Semi have all been good utility type selections. 
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: Somebody on November 18, 2018, 06:18:17 AM
The Rockets would bite our hand off if we offered that for Capela ::)
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: Androslav on November 18, 2018, 06:18:32 AM
0% this could happen.
Rivals.
Not equal values.
Not necessary.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: Birdman on November 18, 2018, 07:27:56 AM
He dont shoot 3s so ainge or brad dont want him 😁
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: gouki88 on November 18, 2018, 07:28:54 AM
He dont shoot 3s so ainge or brad dont want him 😁
If Baynes learnt so can Capela!
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: Moranis on November 18, 2018, 07:58:21 AM
I'd probably do that as it would balance out the roster without reducing the talent level.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: Erik on November 18, 2018, 08:39:25 AM
I'd be tempted if we were talking Gobert. Capela is talented but I question how much he benefits from being in Houston.

We could use him simiarly, but getting rid of Jaylen? Seems steep when we could have had Leonard instead.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: JBcat on November 18, 2018, 10:46:36 AM
Be patient. We may already have Capella on our roster. I could easily see Williams developing into a Capella quality player in 2-3 years.

This.   Also be patient with Brown and Rozier.  They proved last year they are better players than this.  They are struggling adjusting to new roles, but I think they will be fine in the long run
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: smokeablount on November 18, 2018, 11:02:31 AM
I'd be tempted if we were talking Gobert. Capela is talented but I question how much he benefits from being in Houston.

We could use him simiarly, but getting rid of Jaylen? Seems steep when we could have had Leonard instead.

Could we have had Leonard instead though?
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: Erik on November 18, 2018, 11:08:28 AM
I'd be tempted if we were talking Gobert. Capela is talented but I question how much he benefits from being in Houston.

We could use him simiarly, but getting rid of Jaylen? Seems steep when we could have had Leonard instead.


Could we have had Leonard instead though?

From what I recall spurs wanted Brown plus filler for Leonard. I wanted that deal.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: Phantom255x on November 18, 2018, 11:34:46 AM
I'd be tempted if we were talking Gobert. Capela is talented but I question how much he benefits from being in Houston.

We could use him simiarly, but getting rid of Jaylen? Seems steep when we could have had Leonard instead.

Could we have had Leonard instead though?

Yeah we could have. Apparently the Spurs wanted Jaylen + Rozier + Some Salary + Pick(s) but C's weren't interested because they had doubts Kawhi would extend here and his health was still a question mark. I don't blame Ainge though as there were truly risks with Kawhi and also as great as he's looked in TOR... we 100% sure he's staying in TOR after this year? If he bolts then TOR is back to being a middle of the pack team by next year and beyond unless you think Lowry is single-handedly carrying them to a 1-2 seed.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: Phantom255x on November 18, 2018, 11:45:32 AM
Also, in the poll, "I'd add a first as well if needed". Lol yeah while we're at it lets just throw in Tatum too :P  ::)
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: smokeablount on November 18, 2018, 12:08:27 PM
I'd be tempted if we were talking Gobert. Capela is talented but I question how much he benefits from being in Houston.

We could use him simiarly, but getting rid of Jaylen? Seems steep when we could have had Leonard instead.


Could we have had Leonard instead though?

From what I recall spurs wanted Brown plus filler for Leonard. I wanted that deal.

Yeah that’s a good deal at the time that looks even better now.

Obviously we’d need him to sign an extension but anytime you can get a top 3-5 guy especially without giving up your best player or your best prospect / pick it’s hard to say no. But we did.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: Rosco917 on November 18, 2018, 12:56:54 PM
I voted a yes. Rozier is leaving anyway. I feel Brown is getting in the way of Tatum and will never be what some of you think he will be, Baynes is a decent journeyman backup center.

Capella would give us solid D and rim protection and he has more upside. 

They'll never do it, so.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: PhoSita on November 18, 2018, 01:24:52 PM
Nah. Doesn't make good sense in today's NBA to trade a potential all star wing prospect for a defense-boards-and-dunks center.

Besides, capella isn't gonna make the Celts more likely to win the title than they are now.  The defense is already good enough and capella won't make the team shoot better or attack the rim more. He would generate some offense inside but would also hurt spacing.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: coco on November 18, 2018, 02:35:13 PM
I might be tempted, but the question is would Houston.  What Houston needs is a 3 and D guy.  Jaylen/Rozier/Baynes doesn't solve their problem......unless they think Jaylen fills the role.  Personally, I don't think so.

...and as for the Cs, we would feel Baynes departure when we play Philly in the playoffs.  I don't think Cappella would be as effective as Banyne is playing Embid.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: blink on November 18, 2018, 03:19:36 PM
No way I would do that even with the slumps that Jaylen and Rozier are in.  Capela is a good player, but not worth all those guys in a year which we are a contender.  Too many holes to fill and Capela isn't even a top 25 player.

Capela for Rozier and Baynes, then it might be more reasonable since it is reasonable to think that neither of those two would be back next year.  But no way the Rockets would ever go for that and the money probably doesn't work for that either.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: slamtheking on November 18, 2018, 03:55:56 PM
No way I would do that even with the slumps that Jaylen and Rozier are in.  Capela is a good player, but not worth all those guys in a year which we are a contender.  Too many holes to fill and Capela isn't even a top 25 player.

Capela for Rozier and Baynes, then it might be more reasonable since it is reasonable to think that neither of those two would be back next year.  But no way the Rockets would ever go for that and the money probably doesn't work for that either.
this.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: smokeablount on November 18, 2018, 05:16:06 PM
I say no simply due to the mindset I have investing. We’d be buying high on CC and selling real low on Jb.

Edit: Not gonna lie though, the ‘what if’ of a JB+TR for Kawhi deal has been kicking around my brain since visiting this thread this AM.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: vjcsmoke on November 19, 2018, 03:24:00 AM
No way.  If you pay a king's ransom it is for Anthony Davis.  We need to save our chips until the Pelicans finally trade him.  Celtics have the best assets to offer right now.  Capella is good but he is not a potential top 10 player in the league.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 19, 2018, 09:42:36 AM
I would not trade Brown for Capela.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: Moranis on November 19, 2018, 09:48:21 AM
No way.  If you pay a king's ransom it is for Anthony Davis.  We need to save our chips until the Pelicans finally trade him.  Celtics have the best assets to offer right now.  Capella is good but he is not a potential top 10 player in the league.
I just don't see Brown, Rozier, and Baynes as a kings ransom.  heck I'd be pretty surprised if Rozier and Baynes are even on the team next year.
Title: Re: Poll: Jaylen, Rozier, Baynes For Capela
Post by: vjcsmoke on November 19, 2018, 08:00:51 PM
No way.  If you pay a king's ransom it is for Anthony Davis.  We need to save our chips until the Pelicans finally trade him.  Celtics have the best assets to offer right now.  Capella is good but he is not a potential top 10 player in the league.
I just don't see Brown, Rozier, and Baynes as a kings ransom.  heck I'd be pretty surprised if Rozier and Baynes are even on the team next year.

Did you forget the FOUR 1st round picks we have in 2019?  Add that on top of all the other pieces we have and it's a treasure trove.  We always seem to overvalue other teams assets and undervalue our own in this forum.

I mean look at the Leonard trade, we could have easily outbid the Raptors if we wanted to but we didn't.