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Re: The Next Big Three: Kyrie, Davis and...
« Reply #2790 on: May 26, 2019, 08:45:23 PM »

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Re-sign him with what cap space?

Re: The Next Big Three: Kyrie, Davis and...
« Reply #2791 on: May 26, 2019, 08:51:58 PM »

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Welcome to the blog, Greenly. Your post is well-written and easy to read, but unfortunately absolutely impossible. For your own benefit, you may first want to do a little more digging into older threads before creating a new one.

Let me point you to this thread to give you a better idea of how the salary cap works. Oh, and here's your first tp  :)

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=99978.0

Re: The Next Big Three: Kyrie, Davis and...
« Reply #2792 on: May 26, 2019, 08:59:21 PM »

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So we would need to do a four-way trade with the Suns, Warriors and Pelicans:

To Warriors: Hayward

To Suns: Rozier S&T + Yabusele + 14 + 20 + 22 + *

To Pelicans: 6 + Tatum + Brown + Baynes + Williams + Ojeleye + *

To Celtics: Durant S&T (1st year of Hayward’s salary + max above that which allows a straight-up trade) + Davis

* If necessary, Suns and Pelicans exchange fillers with each other to make the math work.

Obviously re-sign Kyrie, extend Davis, and assuming KD is maxed for years 2-5. Heck, Horford even gets to opt-in, right?

There has got to be a way to make this work.

Re: The Next Big Three: Kyrie, Davis and...
« Reply #2793 on: May 26, 2019, 09:04:22 PM »

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Re-signing Kyrie is an obvious yes. Trading for AD is certainly possible, but he unfortunately can't be extended. No need for your 4-way proposal.

Your trade is a little complicated, but basically KD would need to opt into the last year of his deal to make the trade since a s&t makes things extremely complicated (again, some very good stuff in that thread I posted pertaining to this). Hayward as the main salary going out would be great and there are any number of teams that could take him on to make this work.

Re: The Next Big Three: Kyrie, Davis and...
« Reply #2794 on: May 26, 2019, 09:10:36 PM »

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Gordon Hayward.

Counting on you.

Re: The Next Big Three: Kyrie, Davis and...
« Reply #2795 on: May 26, 2019, 09:17:40 PM »

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If Kyrie, KD, AD and Big Al decide they’re playing together and winning the title next year, one has to think it is going to happen somehow, someway. KD is going to want to beat the Warriors next year, so we’re pretty much his only option, right? KD is now the best player in the NBA, so he would love to control the balance of power by building his own big three. He could become the first player to win three championships with two separate teams. An overlay is Kyrie would love to stop Laker LeBron as Celtic Kyrie. Davis and Horford want their ring obviously, and AD needs a deadly P&R partner like Kyrie. Durant and Horford both wish everyday that KD had signed here three years ago. After a half decade of Warrior dominance, the NBA needs the balance only this can bring...

Understand that S&T is not as straightforward as it used to be, but what if Golden State got the Memphis pick (worth helping the Celtics to get that piece) alone for doing a Durant S&T? Then we shift Hayward back to the Suns.

Can someone play out possible ways it could happen? Maybe Gordon and the Memphis pick to the Mavericks for a 2021 pick that gets thrown into the mix of the Suns/Pelicans/Warriors trade (not a coincidence that I’ve only mentioned trades with western teams). 

Think outside of the box. Come up with a way and maybe it somehow gets read by powers that want it to happen just as much as us...
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Re: The Next Big Three: Kyrie, Davis and...
« Reply #2796 on: May 26, 2019, 09:51:31 PM »

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Most exciting thing for the NBA (nobody wants the Warriors to keep doing this and nobody wants the Raptors or Bucks in the Finals):

Warriors: Curry, Thompson, Green, Iggy
Celtics: KD, Kyrie, AD, Big Al
Lakers: LeBron, Kawhi, Butler, Ball

Think of the narrative: Either Celtics Vs. Lakers, with Kyrie/LeBron drama and KD trying to prove he’s finally the best in the NBA, after the Lakers dethrone the Warriors. Or the original Dubs, after managing to get past the reloaded Lakers, against KD’s new crew.

Huge ratings! NBA fans win bigly!

New trade idea...Minny, Boston, NOP
« Reply #2797 on: May 27, 2019, 09:16:43 AM »

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http://tradenba.com/trades/Hyg3bvFpE

Basically,

Hayward to Minny
outgoing: teague, Covington, Dieng, #11
why? 13.5 mill in savings and a potential return to form of an allstar wing. Gets them below lux tax and hard cap. Still need to find a deal for Wiggins.

NOP get: Tatum, Teague, Covington, Yabuselle, Williams, #11, #20 #51 and the Memphis Pick
Out: Davis and moore
Been discussed ALOT.

Boston enters next season with the following assuming Morris is resigned.

Irving/wannamaker
Smart/Moore
Brown/Semi
Horford/Morris
Davis/Baynes/Dieng

Plus pick 14 and pick 22 to round out roster/ Thybulle and Little or Clarke.  LLE on Vince Carter, MLE on Beverley.





Re: New trade idea...Minny, Boston, NOP
« Reply #2798 on: May 27, 2019, 09:42:43 AM »

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Wolves and Pelicans pass on that one

Re: New trade idea...Minny, Boston, NOP
« Reply #2799 on: May 27, 2019, 09:44:22 AM »

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Wolves and Pelicans pass on that one

ok... why?

Re: New trade idea...Minny, Boston, NOP
« Reply #2800 on: May 27, 2019, 10:07:26 AM »

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Interesting idea, but if we’re sending Tatum out as the main piece for Davis I’d rather hang on to Hayward. Irving-Brown-Hayward-Horford-Davis.

Starting Irving and Smart leaves us a little undersized in the backcourt, especially with Wana and Moore as backups. Rather go with more length.


Re: New trade idea...Minny, Boston, NOP
« Reply #2801 on: May 27, 2019, 10:18:51 AM »

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Dieng's contract is genuinely terrible. No thanks. I get not wanting to move Smart, but I wouldn't want to do this.

So many people here are eager to give up on Hayward already
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Re: New trade idea...Minny, Boston, NOP
« Reply #2802 on: May 27, 2019, 10:25:04 AM »

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Dieng's contract is genuinely terrible. No thanks. I get not wanting to move Smart, but I wouldn't want to do this.

So many people here are eager to give up on Hayward already

I just dont see Hayward and Irving ever working out.

Re: New trade idea...Minny, Boston, NOP
« Reply #2803 on: May 27, 2019, 10:32:00 AM »

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You giving Pelicans wayy too much salary when they want to go young and cap free. Plus Deing is trash and many levels. He wouldn’t be worth adding to this team.

Plus pelicans wouldn’t need 8 players. Sheesh

Re: New trade idea...Minny, Boston, NOP
« Reply #2804 on: May 27, 2019, 10:44:49 AM »

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You giving Pelicans wayy too much salary when they want to go young and cap free. Plus Deing is trash and many levels. He wouldn’t be worth adding to this team.

Plus pelicans wouldn’t need 8 players. Sheesh

yeah dieng is bad, but that is why you get the 8th pick.

NOP isnt taking on any long term salary as Teague is a 19 mill expiring contact.