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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: playdream on September 18, 2018, 05:44:59 PM
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There is not yet an video of him shooting but we got this
https://streamable.com/2fqve
I think it's pretty enough telling of where he is now
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There is not yet an video of him shooting but we got this
https://streamable.com/2fqve
I think it's pretty enough telling of where he is now
Thanks for finding this, very interesting.
His mind might very well be the only thing that stops him. But I'd be more concerned about his knees and ankles. Home position for his knees is way on the end of range of motion; i'd bet on an injury in the next three years, especially if he gets starter's minutes.
Wish him luck, but Tatum is going to be special. A toast to Danny Ainge!
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gotta see first. i think he will figure it out.
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i think he will figure it out.
He could not figure out how to win in college, so I think you're wrong. Classic guy who put up inflated numbers on a bad team.
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i think he will figure it out.
He could not figure out how to win in college, so I think you're wrong. Classic guy who put up inflated numbers on a bad team.
Bit of a non sequitur. He wasn't referring to winning anywhere.
I don't think Fultz will figure it out, but it's not as if he is on a bad team right now, so I fail to see any relevancy to his weak college team.
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What is this food on Brown's table?
(https://i.gyazo.com/e9688f4ca9c0c852d2904ecbfc8ee73e.png)
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https://streamable.com/9pqyw
We got the video now
My take is on his form, he obviously still can't put his right shoulder up and stretch it (from 0:45 especially clear)
So Hanlen can only change it to a near one motion shot, heavily relied on his wrist and whole body strength(since he can barely use his arm and shoulder)
by repeat it countless times now he can use that form to make a bucket, but because the limitation above the form isn't good at all, easy to image there are many limitations on it like long releasing time, range, arch, shoot when moving, easy to get hurt again, ect
But at least he should be able to make a wide open 3, and freethrow now
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https://streamable.com/9pqyw
We got the video now
My take is on his form, he obviously still can't put his right shoulder up and stretch it (from 0:45 especially clear)
So Hanlen can only change it to a near one motion shot, heavily relied on his wrist and whole body strength(since he can barely use his arm and shoulder)
by repeat it countless times now he can use that form to make a bucket, but because the limitation above the form isn't good at all, easy to image there are many limitations on it like long releasing time, range, arch, shoot when moving, easy to get hurt again, ect
But at least he should be able to make a wide open 3, and freethrow now
Yuck. Still not good.
Dramatically different from his college form
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This is by far the weirdest thing i've seen in sports ......
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He actually looks like a competent shooter in that video. Then again, there was no one guarding him, which may be a totally different story. Also, the video only shows him shooting spot up 3's. The mechanics of shooting a spot up three and a free throw could be totally different.
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I've never been worried about his actual form. I've been worried about his mind. That's what seems broken.
I think he is still aiming shots, instead of just shooting. I don't think that goes away yet.
If he misses his first 3 threes of the season, what does that do to his confidence? That's the question I have.
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He actually looks like a competent shooter in that video. Then again, there was no one guarding him, which may be a totally different story. Also, the video only shows him shooting spot up 3's. The mechanics of shooting a spot up three and a free throw could be totally different.
exactly, from what i read, in practice marcus smart makes a very high percentage of his 3 point shots.
we shall see this season. i wish him luck because i hate to see anyone fail...but i do not wish him TOO much luck. ;D
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That is still one funky looking shot. There is still a significant hitch there, and he’s clearly pushing the ball at the end of the motion.
Agree with others. That form just doesn’t bode well for shooting in traffic or off the dribble, which was supposed to be something he excelled at. And this is not even considering the mental aspect of it.
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Similar to Curry release. Looks efficient.
I suspect he will have a good year.
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he's not gonna get that off.
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That is still one funky looking shot. There is still a significant hitch there, and he’s clearly pushing the ball at the end of the motion.
Agree with others. That form just doesn’t bode well for shooting in traffic or off the dribble, which was supposed to be something he excelled at. And this is not even considering the mental aspect of it.
Yeah, its pretty ugly. Feel like a 'push shot'. He'll be fine when open and has space but when in traffic or being closed out he's going to have problems adjusting. It's also a fairly low. I wish him all the best.
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That looks like Lillard’s form. It may force Fultz to change his play style (he could stop on a dime and shoot fadeaways over people with his old, higher, more slingshot-like release), but I don’t think this form will derail him, especially if it goes in. He has otherworldly smoothness and deceptive quickness. He was blowing by people last year with that broken jumper.
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There is still a huge mental hurdle to get over for him. I’m not sure if laying off of him to help defend other guys is evil or just a good strategy. Could you imagine the mental adjustment of having opposing players and coaches not believing in you so much, that their willing to let you shoot wide open shots at any moment? Then add on the mental adjustment Fultz needs just to get back on the court.
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Similar to Curry release. Looks efficient.
I suspect he will have a good year.
You can't be serious. No it's not.
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Similar to Curry release. Looks efficient.
I suspect he will have a good year.
You can't be serious. No it's not.
I 2nd this. lol. That shot form looks really really weird. He looks like he is injured and trying to compensate for some arm / shoulder injury by pushing the ball more. It seems low and in front of his body compared to his shot when he was in college. I can't see that working well with live NBA defenders.
This whole story is so crazy. His shot looked fine to me in college. Nice high release, it was a little slow, but I thought he had good natural form coming into the nba. When and how this trainwreck started with his shot is baffling.
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That's still a pretty funky shooting form. His arm angle appears all over the place. He is using his left hand way to much in the shot and looks like he is pushing and aiming the shot. He still has a slightly delayed hiccup while extending. His follow through isn't good and it looks like he needs a lot of time to get the shot off. I can't see that form working too well in stop and pop shots. There is simply no fluidity in that form. That said, it's still much better than the form he showed last year.
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What is this food on Brown's table?
(https://i.gyazo.com/e9688f4ca9c0c852d2904ecbfc8ee73e.png)
Looks like something Rozier would eat.
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he's not gonna get that off.
Exactly. Curry shoots from a low angle, but the difference is that he's super quick in his release, and shoots ridiculously well off the dribble, so he's able to get it off. That is not really Futlz's game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSw3z2YDRdQ
They are all one motion but again i think the difference of Fultz and Curry(and other normal shooter)
is Fultz can not rise his shoulder up -so the angle is always low
and he can not completely stretch his arm (when needed) -so his left hand needs to help way more and wrist has to compensate which leads to a push shot
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Similar to Curry release. Looks efficient.
I suspect he will have a good year.
You can't be serious. No it's not.
I 2nd this. lol. That shot form looks really really weird. He looks like he is injured and trying to compensate for some arm / shoulder injury by pushing the ball more. It seems low and in front of his body compared to his shot when he was in college. I can't see that working well with live NBA defenders.
This whole story is so crazy. His shot looked fine to me in college. Nice high release, it was a little slow, but I thought he had good natural form coming into the nba. When and how this trainwreck started with his shot is baffling.
I third this, perhaps it was said in jest?
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Does it look like his knees collide right before the jump ? I’m not an expert but His footwork stands out to me. He looks incredibly bow legged
Check out Ray Allen footwork and form. Always has separation on his knees and same motion. He evens says it at 0:40: “for me, shooting is not about the upper body it’s about the lower body” https://youtu.be/KKuwKwrzZIA
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He is going to eat a lot of leather folks. With his fragile confidence it may be the end of him.