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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #180 on: August 27, 2013, 06:14:45 PM »

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What does Cleveland need?

Also, if you're curious, this is the likely playoff rotation:
Lawson (35) / Crawford (13)
Allen (30) / Crawford (18)
Butler (28) / Wallace (20)
Horford (20) / Landry (28)
Garnett (35) / Horford (13)

A true backup pg as Jamal is not going to cut it.

While I agree that we need one for the regular season, Jamal will certainly hold his own in the playoffs. His handles are ridiculous. They call him Jamal Crossover for a reason.

"Jamal Crossover" can crossover all he wants but he is a very inefficient scorer when he's creating his own shot, which he'd be doing as a PG.

He's "OK" as a backup PG, but much better as a backup "SG" (one of the best in the league), when he has someone to distribute to him.
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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #181 on: August 27, 2013, 06:17:18 PM »

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What does Cleveland need?

Also, if you're curious, this is the likely playoff rotation:
Lawson (35) / Crawford (13)
Allen (30) / Crawford (18)
Butler (28) / Wallace (20)
Horford (20) / Landry (28)
Garnett (35) / Horford (13)

A true backup pg as Jamal is not going to cut it.

While I agree that we need one for the regular season, Jamal will certainly hold his own in the playoffs. His handles are ridiculous. They call him Jamal Crossover for a reason.

In theory it makes perfect sense, but no he is not an ideal backup pg. He does have amazing handles, but playing the point he will get about one turnover per assist.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #182 on: August 27, 2013, 06:51:13 PM »

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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #183 on: August 27, 2013, 06:52:54 PM »

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Posting his more for personal reference above anything else since we're looking to make more moves, but feel free to compliment and/or critique as well:

Calderon | Barea
Matthews | Delfino | [Pondexter]
Mbah a Moute | Pondexter | [Delfino] | [Matthews]
Nowitzki | Davis | [Mbah a Moute]
Gasol | [Davis] | Olynyk

I didn't realize this earlier, but I must say I'm quite pleased with the versatility of our bench.

I'm warming up starting Mbah a Moute, he's a first rate defender, finishing top-40 in points per possession allowed, 0.63 PPP, and holding opponents to a miserly 33% shooting. He should also bolster Gasol and Nowitzki's rebounding from the 3.

He will make things somewhat tougher offensively for his teammates, as he can be safely doubled off of - and the lack of a second ball handler in the starting leaves the Lakers vulnerable to ball pressure.

Thanks for the input as always, TWW.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #184 on: August 27, 2013, 06:55:00 PM »

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What does Cleveland need?

Also, if you're curious, this is the likely playoff rotation:
Lawson (35) / Crawford (13)
Allen (30) / Crawford (18)
Butler (28) / Wallace (20)
Horford (20) / Landry (28)
Garnett (35) / Horford (13)

A true backup pg as Jamal is not going to cut it.

While I agree that we need one for the regular season, Jamal will certainly hold his own in the playoffs. His handles are ridiculous. They call him Jamal Crossover for a reason.

In theory it makes perfect sense, but no he is not an ideal backup pg. He does have amazing handles, but playing the point he will get about one turnover per assist.

Jamal is a great ball handler. Just so long as nobody else expects shots. You may be able to get away with it. SO once won it all with Rudy Fernandez as his back-up point guard.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #185 on: August 27, 2013, 06:56:06 PM »

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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #186 on: August 27, 2013, 06:56:52 PM »

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Posting his more for personal reference above anything else since we're looking to make more moves, but feel free to compliment and/or critique as well:

Calderon | Barea
Matthews | Delfino | [Pondexter]
Mbah a Moute | Pondexter | [Delfino] | [Matthews]
Nowitzki | Davis | [Mbah a Moute]
Gasol | [Davis] | Olynyk

I didn't realize this earlier, but I must say I'm quite pleased with the versatility of our bench.

I'm warming up to starting Mbah a Moute, he's a first rate defender, finishing top-40 in points per possession allowed, 0.63 PPP, and holding opponents to a meager 33% shooting. He should also bolster Gasol and Nowitzki's rebounding from the 3.

He will make things somewhat tougher offensively for his teammates, as he can be safely doubled off of - and the lack of a second ball handler in the starting five leaves the Lakers vulnerable to ball pressure.

Thanks for the input as always, TWW.

Likewise, thank you for your feedback last night.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #187 on: August 27, 2013, 07:13:37 PM »

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Jrue Holiday/Greivis Vasquez/Nate Robinson
Danny Green/J.R Smith
Shawn Marion/Chris Copeland
David Lee/Brandon Bass
Tyson Chandler/Brandan Wright

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #188 on: August 27, 2013, 07:14:08 PM »

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SAN ANTONIO SPURS

PG Kemba Walker/Luke Ridnour
SG Andre Iguodala/Marcus Thornton
SF Danny Granger
PF Kevin Love/Thaddeus Young
C JaVale McGee/Cody Zeller

Coach Rick Carlisle

Kemba... very interesting PG selection.  Interesting in a good way.  I have absolutely no idea what your team offense will look like.  You've got starters at the 1-3 who have been somewhat inefficient scorers in the NBA, but they've also been "the guy" on those teams and now I imagine will be 2nd banana to Love.

This is a team like GS Warriors last summer who I'd be really intrigued to watch play in the preseason.

Also, I really like Luke Ridnour as a more traditional pg for you off the bench.  I think that will keep your team from being too crazy. 

You have 5 very quality guys that can man all the minutes of your 1-3 positions.  Kemba can play 2, Iggy can play 3.

Much obliged Action. (TP.) Yes, I was pleased to get a steady back-up point guard of Ridnour's calibre in Round 9. I envision an uptempo team. I want to take advantage of Love's outlet passing, Walker and Iguodala in the open court, and the speed of my other big men, McGee, Zeller, and Young.

Love is our first scoring option, while Walker, Iguodala and Granger all benefit from having to shoulder less of the load. I also anticipate being able to force teams into mismatches in the half court, thanks to penetration by both Walker and Iguodala, Granger's size at the three, and Love's range and offensive rebounding. Thornton is also one of the league's better instant offense reserves.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #189 on: August 27, 2013, 07:50:16 PM »

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Jrue Holiday/Greivis Vasquez/Nate Robinson
Danny Green/J.R Smith
Shawn Marion/Chris Copeland
David Lee/Brandon Bass
Tyson Chandler/Brandan Wright

Likes: Jrue Holiday as a starter, a better scorer than he gets credit for, better passer probably than I give him credit for, very, very good defender. Vasquez has value not only as Holiday's backup but as a 2 guard next to him. I like Daniel Green as a role player. I like JR Smith as a sixth man, but that's a very mercurial wagon to hitch your horse to. I love David Lee (despite my criticism, that's cuz you guys love him too much) and Tyson Chandler as player, and I like their fit well enough.

Neutral on: Nate, Bass, Wright

I don't like: Starting Marion as a 3 next to anyone but a real stretch 4 with range. Chris Copeland helps there. I don't like: the lack of a truly elite scorer. Very nuggets-esque, but I think both Gallo and Lawson are more gifted perimeter scorers than anyone on the roster.

Prognosis: Playoffs, fringe talk of contention, but not REALLY considered a top team.

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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #190 on: August 27, 2013, 08:06:24 PM »

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Any thoughts of starting Fournier and bringing Stephenson off the bench?
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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #191 on: August 27, 2013, 08:22:20 PM »

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Any thoughts of starting Fournier and bringing Stephenson off the bench?

Stephenson put in his work in Indiana and learned under Bird, and when they called his number, he showed up (for the most part, Im not claiming he was a super star). I think showing faith in him when his play has demanded it is the type of positive reinforcement that'll carry water with Stephenson. Fournier will get his time but unless We trade lance, he's probably starting

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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #192 on: August 27, 2013, 10:22:10 PM »

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PG Kemba Walker/Luke Ridnour
SG Andre Iguodala/Marcus Thornton
SF Danny Granger
PF Kevin Love/Thaddeus Young
C JaVale McGee/Cody Zeller

Coach Rick Carlisle

The more I think about this team, the more I like it. I think I am buying McGee this year. Denver is, that's for certain, and if he can stay on the floor for 30 minutes, while his 'Thats so JaVale' moments won't completely disappear, this seems like it's the year he should turn it around. Injuries are a really tough thing to gauge, and I don't like the histories for Grnger or Love obviously, but Thad Young should make a spectacular stand in if Love misses a few here or there, and Zeller can easily play the 4, probably better than he'll play the 5. And is this team really that bad if Iggy goes to the 3 and Thornton/Ridnour split the duties at the 2? Still seems solid. The next few picks will matter, but at the end of the day there is scoring, defense, shooting, facilitators..really warming up to this squad.

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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #193 on: August 27, 2013, 10:46:43 PM »

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Tiago Splitter/Jonas Valanciunas

Any thoughts of starting Fournier and bringing Stephenson off the bench?

Stephenson put in his work in Indiana and learned under Bird, and when they called his number, he showed up (for the most part, Im not claiming he was a super star). I think showing faith in him when his play has demanded it is the type of positive reinforcement that'll carry water with Stephenson. Fournier will get his time but unless We trade lance, he's probably starting

I just feel that you have a lot of offense in your starting lineup and could use some more off your bench.

Fournier still spreads the floor well by knocking down the 3.
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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #194 on: August 27, 2013, 10:56:35 PM »

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