Chris Mannix thinks NBA season can continue in Vegas sometime in the summer

[Tr1boy]

Also, would Vegas have enough facilities for all 30 teams for the regular season?

This is a good question. But I doubt they will have all 30 teams there at once

First part of the tourney would be for the bottom teams

Once most are eliminated and 16 teams are left, there should be a way/room for teams to have a timeslot to practice etc.

They are able to do it for Vegas summer league

Again its not ideal and it would be a rush job. But better than nothing.  They would get paid. And a champion would be crowned

If you don't have fans, you don't need big basketball arenas.  You can play games pretty much anywhere they can fit a regulation court.

It's all about getting good camera angles. Floor level camera angles are awful.  Hopefully they can get higher multiple angles.

agreed

and they would likely play at a better venue than they do in the SL

If one or two hotels/casino can convert their center into a basketball court (plus house the players and others) this would be ideal

No ins and out (I mean where is there to go anyways) and no interactions with anybody outside the hotel/casino

[Moranis]

Also, would Vegas have enough facilities for all 30 teams for the regular season?

This is a good question. But I doubt they will have all 30 teams there at once

First part of the tourney would be for the bottom teams

Once most are eliminated and 16 teams are left, there should be a way/room for teams to have a timeslot to practice etc.

They are able to do it for Vegas summer league

Again its not ideal and it would be a rush job. But better than nothing.  They would get paid. And a champion would be crowned

If you don't have fans, you don't need big basketball arenas.  You can play games pretty much anywhere they can fit a regulation court.

It's all about getting good camera angles. Floor level camera angles are awful.  Hopefully they can get higher multiple angles.

agreed

and they would likely play at a better venue than they do in the SL

If one or two hotels/casino can convert their center into a basketball court (plus house the players and others) this would be ideal

No ins and out (I mean where is there to go anyways) and no interactions with anybody outside the hotel/casino

But that was my point.  Aside from the obvious Golden Knights arena, the MGM has a very nice arena, which I believe is big enough to fit a basketball floor into and it isn't the only arena in Vegas that can do.  The convention halls all have space that easily could be converted into basketball courts with plenty of quality angles.  Then you have all of the college and professional space that wouldn't have any difficulty transitioning into basketball courts (if they aren't one already).  I mean, I bet you could have some 5 or more high quality courts on UNLV's campus alone.  Then you have the Raiders and Golden Knight facilities, which would have the ability to basketball courts in them (and have the appropriate camera angles since those teams like high vantage points and film of their practices). 

[Tr1boy]

Also, would Vegas have enough facilities for all 30 teams for the regular season?

This is a good question. But I doubt they will have all 30 teams there at once

First part of the tourney would be for the bottom teams

Once most are eliminated and 16 teams are left, there should be a way/room for teams to have a timeslot to practice etc.

They are able to do it for Vegas summer league

Again its not ideal and it would be a rush job. But better than nothing.  They would get paid. And a champion would be crowned

If you don't have fans, you don't need big basketball arenas.  You can play games pretty much anywhere they can fit a regulation court.

It's all about getting good camera angles. Floor level camera angles are awful.  Hopefully they can get higher multiple angles.

agreed

and they would likely play at a better venue than they do in the SL

If one or two hotels/casino can convert their center into a basketball court (plus house the players and others) this would be ideal

No ins and out (I mean where is there to go anyways) and no interactions with anybody outside the hotel/casino

But that was my point.  Aside from the obvious Golden Knights arena, the MGM has a very nice arena, which I believe is big enough to fit a basketball floor into and it isn't the only arena in Vegas that can do.  The convention halls all have space that easily could be converted into basketball courts with plenty of quality angles.  Then you have all of the college and professional space that wouldn't have any difficulty transitioning into basketball courts (if they aren't one already).  I mean, I bet you could have some 5 or more high quality courts on UNLV's campus alone.  Then you have the Raiders and Golden Knight facilities, which would have the ability to basketball courts in them (and have the appropriate camera angles since those teams like high vantage points and film of their practices).

I think Goldnight Knights arena and MGM arena would be optimal for such plan.  Because everyone can be housed and fed by a hotel nearby

You could have two games daily.  One at 6pm and one at 9pm. And three games on the weekends.   And do a best of 3 format. 

Though at the end of the day, I don't know how you can keep the public out of it. Meaning the strip will fill up with people due to the NBA excitement, even if the strip will be closed 

[Redz]

It would be a perfect time to try out that tournament idea they'd floated.

Have the results of that tournament and the cutoff season work for some kind of combined seeding system.

MLB in 1981 used a split season to determine playoffs, but they were only allowing 2 teams from each league in the the postseason prior to that.

[celticsclay]

Hypothetical Question for the group here. If this goes on June first and the Oklahoma City Thunder destroy the Clippers 2-0 in the second round because they are much closer to basketball shape having been able to go to gyms and work with trainers and play with each other for 6 weeks while the Clippers entire city was shut down, would people feel that was an issue in determining a champion? (I don't want to debate this exact scenario speculating which cities will be shut down and which won't, but the cities are certainly going to have different peaks and restrictions over the next two months and that is not really debatable)

[Tr1boy]

Hypothetical Question for the group here. If this goes on June first and the Oklahoma City Thunder destroy the Clippers 2-0 in the second round because they are much closer to basketball shape having been able to go to gyms and work with trainers and play with each other for 6 weeks while the Clippers entire city was shut down, would people feel that was an issue in determining a champion? (I don't want to debate this exact scenario speculating which cities will be shut down and which won't, but the cities are certainly going to have different peaks and restrictions over the next two months and that is not really debatable)

No issue

teams will need to strategize a little differently than previous playoffs.  In that its basically game 7 from the get go

there will be also no home court advantage.  So this is something else they would need to adjust to

tbh there is like a 10 percent more chance of upsets happening. But odds are, that the top teams (one of the top 4 seeds) will meet in the finals

[ozgod]

It would be a perfect time to try out that tournament idea they'd floated.

Have the results of that tournament and the cutoff season work for some kind of combined seeding system.

MLB in 1981 used a split season to determine playoffs, but they were only allowing 2 teams from each league in the the postseason prior to that.

My sentiments exactly. I was thinking they could do some kind of World Cup or March Madness type tournament.

Also, I'm ok with them exploring ways to restart the season, within the constraints of making sure it's safe to do so for players and everyone else involved. Flattening the curve and overcoming the virus must be the absolute priority, but it's ok to try to see if we can restart other aspects of life, as long as they don't contradict or impact that priority. I'm trying to keep my own little business going within those constraints just like them. Let's remember the NBA was the first to cancel its season and it was that action more than anything that really brought the message home to Americans that COVID-19 was a big deal. They're not angels but I don't think they are irresponsible either.

[Tr1boy]

It would be a perfect time to try out that tournament idea they'd floated.

Have the results of that tournament and the cutoff season work for some kind of combined seeding system.

MLB in 1981 used a split season to determine playoffs, but they were only allowing 2 teams from each league in the the postseason prior to that.

My sentiments exactly. I was thinking they could do some kind of World Cup or March Madness type tournament.

Also, I'm ok with them exploring ways to restart the season, within the constraints of making sure it's safe to do so for players and everyone else involved. Flattening the curve and overcoming the virus must be the absolute priority, but it's ok to try to see if we can restart other aspects of life, as long as they don't contradict or impact that priority. I'm trying to keep my own little business going within those constraints just like them. Let's remember the NBA was the first to cancel its season and it was that action more than anything that really brought the message home to Americans that COVID-19 was a big deal. They're not angels but I don't think they are irresponsible either.

+1

Hope your business can survive this man

[PhoSita]

Hypothetical Question for the group here. If this goes on June first and the Oklahoma City Thunder destroy the Clippers 2-0 in the second round because they are much closer to basketball shape having been able to go to gyms and work with trainers and play with each other for 6 weeks while the Clippers entire city was shut down, would people feel that was an issue in determining a champion? (I don't want to debate this exact scenario speculating which cities will be shut down and which won't, but the cities are certainly going to have different peaks and restrictions over the next two months and that is not really debatable)

I think if they end up playing any type of playoffs this season will have a huge asterisk no matter what.

[PhoSita]

Right now there are a lot of depression, stress, fear and anxiety in the country. If sports can reduce that by offering a form of escape, then it could be a good way of keeping people at home and it may even lead to a safer home. It also brings people together and can even be used to drive home messages of staying home and so forth.

Believe me there's nothing I'd like more than to have something to be excited about / look forward to right now.  New basketball to watch would be amazing.

I just don't think that there's a realistic scenario in the next 6-8 months where it will be possible to do it from a logistical, moral, or public health perspective.

I think if we get any basketball before the end of this calendar year that it will be a victory. 


I won't put much past the NFL because that league more than any other places profit above humanity, but I have serious doubts that the NFL season will happen, especially since we can probably expect a second wave of the virus once the weather gets cold again.

[mmmmm]

Honestly the nba continuing to push on this right now when a thousand people are dying a day in this country (and will soon be 2k) has crossed the line into being obnoxious

totally agree.  I don't hear other sports acting like this .   Seems the NBA is ....not the players ....is,just obcessed with promotion, lets play ball ...yada yada .   There is no way there is going to be NBA games with fans in attendance for a very long time.   You just can't throw 10 's of 1000 's of people back inside a closed space elbow to elbow without a vaccine.  Not happening . Kiss that TV money good bye and move on already. Fans are a big part of the game and DO effect the outcomes of games as teams ride the emotions of the crowd , especially in playoffs.  Playing without the fans is pointless.  ....for,the playoffs.  It decides nothing.

If they play games this year. it will be a TV only thing   I'm reading it will min of 12 months maybe 18 before world wide quantities of vaccine will be in place.  They might as well take a freak n chill pill .

Oh, if the NFL was in season you can rest assured they would be making every effort to get games played as fast as humanly possible. Those guys have zero empathy for human life and suffering. Just look what they did to their retired players for decades, as well as what they did to them in the new CBA. Or how they ignored rampant steroid abuse and concussions in the players. Believe me, the NFL wouldn't be acting any different than the NBA and might have acted worse.

I think they’re just in denial.  I’m affiliated with a major performing arts organization, and publicly leadership is saying they still plan to have some of their summer programming.  But said programming includes several hundred concerts featuring artists from around the world, in both small venues designed for a few hundred attendees and large open air venues designed for over ten thousand.  And they acknowledge that some of the programming won’t happen, but gosh darn it if they won’t do something.

But privately, I don’t know a single person who thinks that there will be anything actually at a venue.

Yeah, I just called the Hanover regarding a show we bought tickets for many months ago that was for this week.   It has been rescheduled for late June.

Ha.

No way I believe that will be happening.   But I'll wait until June to call them on it. 

[kraidstar]

Hypothetical Question for the group here. If this goes on June first and the Oklahoma City Thunder destroy the Clippers 2-0 in the second round because they are much closer to basketball shape having been able to go to gyms and work with trainers and play with each other for 6 weeks while the Clippers entire city was shut down, would people feel that was an issue in determining a champion? (I don't want to debate this exact scenario speculating which cities will be shut down and which won't, but the cities are certainly going to have different peaks and restrictions over the next two months and that is not really debatable)

No issue

teams will need to strategize a little differently than previous playoffs.  In that its basically game 7 from the get go

there will be also no home court advantage.  So this is something else they would need to adjust to

tbh there is like a 10 percent more chance of upsets happening. But odds are, that the top teams (one of the top 4 seeds) will meet in the finals

Vegas would be a home game for the Lakers. It is not even vaguely neutral.

LeBron, Silver, and the rest of the Lakers would be thrilled with this plan I'm sure.

IMO it would not be a legitimate championship if they won.

[Redz]

It would be a perfect time to try out that tournament idea they'd floated.

Have the results of that tournament and the cutoff season work for some kind of combined seeding system.

MLB in 1981 used a split season to determine playoffs, but they were only allowing 2 teams from each league in the the postseason prior to that.

My sentiments exactly. I was thinking they could do some kind of World Cup or March Madness type tournament.

Also, I'm ok with them exploring ways to restart the season, within the constraints of making sure it's safe to do so for players and everyone else involved. Flattening the curve and overcoming the virus must be the absolute priority, but it's ok to try to see if we can restart other aspects of life, as long as they don't contradict or impact that priority. I'm trying to keep my own little business going within those constraints just like them. Let's remember the NBA was the first to cancel its season and it was that action more than anything that really brought the message home to Americans that COVID-19 was a big deal. They're not angels but I don't think they are irresponsible either.

I work for a non-profit which provides all sorts of services for people with disabilities.  We are scrambling around trying to figure out how to reach our clients and provide some semblance of the services we provide.  My program gives transitional and job training to high school students with disabilities.  We have a summer internship program that requires a fair amount of prerequisites that we either need to adjust or bypass completely now, but I still need to plan as though summer time activities will be available.  If they're not, they're not.  But if they are we'l be somewhat prepared.

I'm the NBA and all other organizations are working through millions of contingencies at this point. 

The unknown is unsettling to say the least.

[Moranis]

Honestly the nba continuing to push on this right now when a thousand people are dying a day in this country (and will soon be 2k) has crossed the line into being obnoxious

totally agree.  I don't hear other sports acting like this .   Seems the NBA is ....not the players ....is,just obcessed with promotion, lets play ball ...yada yada .   There is no way there is going to be NBA games with fans in attendance for a very long time.   You just can't throw 10 's of 1000 's of people back inside a closed space elbow to elbow without a vaccine.  Not happening . Kiss that TV money good bye and move on already. Fans are a big part of the game and DO effect the outcomes of games as teams ride the emotions of the crowd , especially in playoffs.  Playing without the fans is pointless.  ....for,the playoffs.  It decides nothing.

If they play games this year. it will be a TV only thing   I'm reading it will min of 12 months maybe 18 before world wide quantities of vaccine will be in place.  They might as well take a freak n chill pill .

Oh, if the NFL was in season you can rest assured they would be making every effort to get games played as fast as humanly possible. Those guys have zero empathy for human life and suffering. Just look what they did to their retired players for decades, as well as what they did to them in the new CBA. Or how they ignored rampant steroid abuse and concussions in the players. Believe me, the NFL wouldn't be acting any different than the NBA and might have acted worse.

I think they’re just in denial.  I’m affiliated with a major performing arts organization, and publicly leadership is saying they still plan to have some of their summer programming.  But said programming includes several hundred concerts featuring artists from around the world, in both small venues designed for a few hundred attendees and large open air venues designed for over ten thousand.  And they acknowledge that some of the programming won’t happen, but gosh darn it if they won’t do something.

But privately, I don’t know a single person who thinks that there will be anything actually at a venue.

Yeah, I just called the Hanover regarding a show we bought tickets for many months ago that was for this week.   It has been rescheduled for late June.

Ha.

No way I believe that will be happening.   But I'll wait until June to call them on it. 

But those have spectators.  It is vastly different if you don't have spectators. 

[ozgod]

It would be a perfect time to try out that tournament idea they'd floated.

Have the results of that tournament and the cutoff season work for some kind of combined seeding system.

MLB in 1981 used a split season to determine playoffs, but they were only allowing 2 teams from each league in the the postseason prior to that.

My sentiments exactly. I was thinking they could do some kind of World Cup or March Madness type tournament.

Also, I'm ok with them exploring ways to restart the season, within the constraints of making sure it's safe to do so for players and everyone else involved. Flattening the curve and overcoming the virus must be the absolute priority, but it's ok to try to see if we can restart other aspects of life, as long as they don't contradict or impact that priority. I'm trying to keep my own little business going within those constraints just like them. Let's remember the NBA was the first to cancel its season and it was that action more than anything that really brought the message home to Americans that COVID-19 was a big deal. They're not angels but I don't think they are irresponsible either.

+1

Hope your business can survive this man

Thanks man, TP right back at ya!