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Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #105 on: December 15, 2018, 08:31:11 PM »

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That was a fairly effective stretch of ball there for Brown. Only two points but 2 steals, big block, 2 assists nice defense.

I guess for some people that = trash

I mean, the dude was getting constantly scored on, blew a wide open fastbreak due to poor ballhandling, and had two TOs that made up for his two steals.

Not sure why some people on here are so overprotective of Brown and get butthurt when he gets rightly criticized. Just because he's played less bad than he has the past two games doesn't mean he's still not playing like trash.

Brown wasn't constantly getting scored on.  No one is getting butt hurt, but your post just wasn't accurate.

That was a fairly effective stretch of ball there for Brown. Only two points but 2 steals, big block, 2 assists nice defense.

I guess for some people that = trash

I mean, the dude was getting constantly scored on, blew a wide open fastbreak due to poor ballhandling, and had two TOs that made up for his two steals.

Not sure why some people on here are so overprotective of Brown and get butthurt when he gets rightly criticized. Just because he's played less bad than he has the past two games doesn't mean he's still not playing like trash.
He was not consistently scored on, I dont think he was scored on more than once or twice on a man he was guarding. One of those turnovers was a bad traveling call. And not for nothing but judging by the fact he was out there at the end of the half I'd say Brad would agree he played well.

I mean, it *literally* is true. Went back and rewatched (with the help of fast forward) all of the first half possessions with Brown in them. Below are all the possessions Brown was scored on either as the man's primary defender in the halfcourt set or through bad fastbreak defense, leading to 13 points of Detroit's 57 in the first half, or 1/5 of Detroit's points. Some were worse than others, but most of them were due to Brown biting on fakes, not staying engaged with off-the-ball defense, or poor fastbreak defense not recognizing the need to pick up the lead man.

2:38 of 1st quarter (bad fastbreak defense)

1:24 of 1st quarter

34.0 of 1st quarter (bad fastbreak defense)

10:24 of 2nd quarter

8:11 of 2nd quarter

6:04 of 2nd quarter

So, yeah, he wasn't very good out there defensively for us, and most of it goes back to his poor BBIQ and propensity to bite on every ball/shot fake.

And while his one traveling call was definitely a bad call, both of his steals were him happening to be in the right place at the right time with someone else actually forcing the turnover.

Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #106 on: December 15, 2018, 08:31:21 PM »

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Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #107 on: December 15, 2018, 08:32:40 PM »

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Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #108 on: December 15, 2018, 08:33:13 PM »

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Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #109 on: December 15, 2018, 08:33:58 PM »

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Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #110 on: December 15, 2018, 08:34:07 PM »

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where r the fouls??????

Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #111 on: December 15, 2018, 08:34:19 PM »

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Call a timeout CBS

Yeah, should have called it a few plays ago when the ball stopped moving.

Typical poor in-game decision-making by Brad.

Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #112 on: December 15, 2018, 08:34:54 PM »

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Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #113 on: December 15, 2018, 08:36:49 PM »

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Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #114 on: December 15, 2018, 08:37:05 PM »

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How about call an effing foul on Drummond?? Lands on Theis with no freaking call.

Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #115 on: December 15, 2018, 08:37:07 PM »

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That was a fairly effective stretch of ball there for Brown. Only two points but 2 steals, big block, 2 assists nice defense.

I guess for some people that = trash

I mean, the dude was getting constantly scored on, blew a wide open fastbreak due to poor ballhandling, and had two TOs that made up for his two steals.

Not sure why some people on here are so overprotective of Brown and get butthurt when he gets rightly criticized. Just because he's played less bad than he has the past two games doesn't mean he's still not playing like trash.

Brown wasn't constantly getting scored on.  No one is getting butt hurt, but your post just wasn't accurate.

That was a fairly effective stretch of ball there for Brown. Only two points but 2 steals, big block, 2 assists nice defense.

I guess for some people that = trash

I mean, the dude was getting constantly scored on, blew a wide open fastbreak due to poor ballhandling, and had two TOs that made up for his two steals.

Not sure why some people on here are so overprotective of Brown and get butthurt when he gets rightly criticized. Just because he's played less bad than he has the past two games doesn't mean he's still not playing like trash.
He was not consistently scored on, I dont think he was scored on more than once or twice on a man he was guarding. One of those turnovers was a bad traveling call. And not for nothing but judging by the fact he was out there at the end of the half I'd say Brad would agree he played well.

I mean, it *literally* is true. Went back and rewatched (with the help of fast forward) all of the first half possessions with Brown in them. Below are all the possessions Brown was scored on either as the man's primary defender in the halfcourt set or through bad fastbreak defense, leading to 13 points of Detroit's 57 in the first half, or 1/5 of Detroit's points. Some were worse than others, but most of them were due to Brown biting on fakes, not staying engaged with off-the-ball defense, or poor fastbreak defense not recognizing the need to pick up the lead man.

2:38 of 1st quarter (bad fastbreak defense)

1:24 of 1st quarter

34.0 of 1st quarter (bad fastbreak defense)

10:24 of 2nd quarter

8:11 of 2nd quarter

6:04 of 2nd quarter

So, yeah, he wasn't very good out there defensively for us, and most of it goes back to his poor BBIQ and propensity to bite on every ball/shot fake.

And while his one traveling call was definitely a bad call, both of his steals were him happening to be in the right place at the right time with someone else actually forcing the turnover.

That is just crap when you start out by saying Brown was scored on, then you go back to plays where he wasn't the primary defender.  That means nothing.  There were other guys on the team that could have helped on those other plays as well. 

Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #116 on: December 15, 2018, 08:37:15 PM »

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Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #117 on: December 15, 2018, 08:38:58 PM »

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This is a game where Brad can use his team depth with Semi and Williams providing energy but nope.

Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #118 on: December 15, 2018, 08:39:00 PM »

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Once again Brown bites on a pumpfake leading to an And-1 opportunity  ::)

Re: Celtics (18-10) at Pistons (13-13) Game #29 12/15/18
« Reply #119 on: December 15, 2018, 08:39:26 PM »

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