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2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Results in OP!
« on: July 22, 2023, 09:50:42 PM »

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RESULTS
1. OKC Thunder
2. Orlando Magic
3. Denver Nuggets
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Cleveland Cavaliers
6. Toronto Raptors
7. LA Clippers
8. Sacramento Kings
9. Washington Generals
10. Brooklyn Nets
11. Memphis Grizzlies
12. Utah Jazz


All times listed are EST.

Link to the main discussion thread: https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=108194.60
Link to the rules thread: https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=108272.0
Link to the teams thread: https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=108318.0

ROUND 1 - WEDNESDAY 2 AUGUST
4:00  1. Toronto Raptors (theswitch) Chicago Bulls (smokeablount): Tracy McGrady
4:15  2. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Grant Hill
4:30  3. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): Vince Carter
4:45  4. Denver Nuggets (Who): Alonzo Mourning
5:00  5. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount) Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Penny Hardaway
5:15  6. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever): Dwight Howard
5:30  7. LA Clippers (RPGenerate): Sidney Moncrief
5:45  8. Orlando Magic (gouki88): Chris Webber
6:00  9. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): Pau Gasol
6:15  10. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): Elton Brand
6:30  11. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): Mitch Richmond
6:45  12. Washington Generals (Kernewek): Rasheed Wallace

ROUND 2 - THURSDAY 3 AUGUST
4:00  1. Washington Generals (Kernewek): Tim Hardaway Sr.
4:15  2. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): Shawn Marion
4:30  3. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): Manu Ginobili
4:45  4. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): Amare Stoudemire
5:00  5. Orlando Magic (gouki88): Brandon Roy
5:15  6. LA Clippers (RPGenerate): Chris Mullin
5:30  7. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever): Chauncey Billups
5:45  8. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount): David Thompson
6:00  9. Denver Nuggets (Who): Bernard King
6:15  10. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): Alex English
6:30  11. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Chris Bosh
6:45  12. Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Marc Gasol

ROUND 3 - FRIDAY 4 AUGUST
4:00  1. Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Paul Westphal
4:15  2. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Tony Parker
4:30  3. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): Yao Ming
4:45  4. Denver Nuggets (Who): Kevin Johnson
5:00  5. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount)Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Bobby Jones
5:15  6. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever): Peja Stojakovic
5:30  7. LA Clippers (RPGenerate): Dennis Johnson
5:45  8. Orlando Magic (gouki88): Joe Dumars
6:00  9. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): Adrian Dantley
6:15  10. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): Andre Iguodala
6:30  11. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): Maurice Lucas
6:45  12. Washington Generals (Kernewek): Alvin Robertson

ROUND 4 - MONDAY 7 AUGUST
4:00  1. Washington Generals (Kernewek): Glen Rice Sr.
4:15  2. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): Mark Price
4:30  3. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): Dikembe Mutombo
4:45  4. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): Mo Cheeks
5:00  5. Orlando Magic (gouki88)Chicago Bulls (smokeablount): Blake Griffin
5:15  6. LA Clippers (RPGenerate): Ben Wallace
5:30  7. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever): Shawn Kemp
5:45  8. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount): Bob Lanier
6:00  9. Denver Nuggets (Who): Eddie Jones
6:15  10. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): Kemba Walker
6:30  11. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Joe Johnson
6:45  12. Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Marques Johnson

ROUND 5 - TUESDAY 8 AUGUST
4:00  1. Toronto Raptors (theswitch)Chicago Bulls (smokeablount): Deron Williams
4:15  2. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Artis Gilmore
4:30  3. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): LaMarcus Aldridge
4:45  4. Denver Nuggets (Who): Jack Sikma
5:00  5. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount)Orlando Magic (gouki88): Ralph Sampson
5:15  6. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever): Michael Redd
5:30  7. LA Clippers (RPGenerate): Detlef Schrempf
5:45  8. Orlando Magic (gouki88): Terry Porter
6:00  9. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): Drazen Petrovic
6:15  10. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): Andrei Kirilenko
6:30  11. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): Vlade Divac
6:45  12. Washington Generals (Kernewek): Joakim Noah

ROUNDS 6 & 7 - WEDNESDAY 9 AUGUST
4:00  1. Washington Generals (Kernewek): Gilbert Arenas
4:08  2. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): Zach Randolph
4:16  3. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): DeMarcus Cousins
4:24  4. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): Dan Issel
4:32  5. Orlando Magic (gouki88):Terry Cummings
4:40  6. LA Clippers (RPGenerate): Metta Sandifore-Artest (Ron Artest)
4:48  7. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever): Thunder Dan Majerle
4:56  8. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount): Larry Nance Sr.
5:04  9. Denver Nuggets (Who): Gus Williams
5:12  10. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): Horace Grant
5:20  11. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Dale Ellis
5:28  12. Toronto Raptors (theswitch)Chicago Bulls (smokeablount)Orlando Magic (gouki88): Steve Francis
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5:36  1. Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Fat Lever
5:44  2. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Larry Johnson
5:52  3. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): Michael Cooper
6:00  4. Denver Nuggets (Who): Bob Dandridge
6:08  5. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount)Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Jermaine O'Neal
6:16  6. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever): Antonio McDyess
6:24  7. LA Clippers (RPGenerate): Jo Jo White
6:32  8. Orlando Magic (gouki88): Walter Davis
6:40  9. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): Rip Hamilton
6:48  10. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): Mookie Blaylock
6:56  11. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): Andrew Toney
7:04  12.Washington Generals (Kernewek): Arvydas Sabonis

ROUNDS 8 & 9 - THURSDAY 10 AUGUST
4:00  1. Washington Generals (Kernewek): Mark Aguirre
4:08  2. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): Rajon Rondo
4:16  3. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): Isaiah Thomas
4:24  4. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): Bruce Bowen
4:32  5. Orlando Magic (gouki88): Jeff Hornacek
4:40  6. LA Clippers (RPGenerate): Buck Williams
4:48  7. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever): Gerald Wallace
4:56  8. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount): Brad Daugherty
5:04  9. Denver Nuggets (Who): Vin Baker
5:12  10. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): Antawn Jamison
5:20  11. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Sam Cassell
5:28  12. Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Danny Granger
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5:36  1. Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Serge Ibaka
5:44  2. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Latrell Sprewell
5:52  3. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): Jamal Crawford
6:00  4. Denver Nuggets (Who): Danny Manning
6:08  5. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount): Tayshaun Prince
6:16  6. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever): Tyson Chandler
6:24  7. LA Clippers (RPGenerate): World B. Free
6:32  8. Orlando Magic (gouki88): Andrew Bogut
6:40  9. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): George McGinnis
6:48  10. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): Reggie Lewis
6:56  11. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): Michael Finley
7:04  12.Washington Generals (Kernewek): Tony Allen

ROUNDS 10 & 11 - FRIDAY 11 AUGUST
4:00  1. Washington Generals (Kernewek): Carlos BoozerCarlos Boozer
4:08  2. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): Theo Ratliff
4:16  3. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): Jamal Mashburn
4:24  4. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): Don Buse
4:32  5. Orlando Magic (gouki88)Chicago Bulls (smokeablount): John Wall
4:40  6. LA Clippers (RPGenerate): Andrew Bynum
4:48  7. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever):  Baron Davis
4:56  8. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount): Hersey Hawkins
5:04  9. Denver Nuggets (Who): Rolando Blackman
5:12  10. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): Gail Goodrich
5:20  11. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Sean Elliot
5:28  12. Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Terrell Brandon
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5:36  1. Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Paul Pressey
5:44  2. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Kevin Willis
5:52  3. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): Bill Laimbeer
6:00  4. Denver Nuggets (Who): Cliff Robinson
6:08  5. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount):Marcus Camby
6:16  6. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever): Toni Kukoc
6:24  7. LA Clippers (RPGenerate):Stephon Marbury
6:32  8. Orlando Magic (gouki88): Jerry Stackhouse
6:40  9. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): Jim Jackson
6:48  10. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): J.J. Redick
6:56  11. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): Doug Christie
7:04  12.Washington Generals (Kernewek): Jason Williams

ROUND 12 - MONDAY 14 AUGUST
4:00  1. Washington Generals (Kernewek): Derrick Coleman
4:15  2. Sacramento Kings (Donoghus): David West
4:30  3. Cleveland Cavaliers (Roy H.): Mehmet Okur
4:45  4. Brooklyn Nets (Moranis): Dan Roundfield
5:00  5. Orlando Magic (gouki88): Paul Millsap
5:15  6. LA Clippers (RPGenerate): Tom Chambers
5:30  7. OKC Thunder (Celtic Fan Forever): Allan Houston
5:45  8. Chicago Bulls (smokeablount): Michael Ray Richardson
6:00  9. Denver Nuggets (Who): Fred Brown
6:15  10. Memphis Grizzlies (celticinorlando): Josh Smith
6:30  11. Utah Jazz (wdleehi): Robert Horry
6:45  12. Toronto Raptors (theswitch): Kiki VandeWeghe

TRADES:
1.
theswitch trades: 1.1, 5.1 & 6.12.

smokeablount trades: 1.5, 3.5 and 7.5.

2.
gouki88 trades: Blake Griffin & 10.5

smokeablount trades: 5.5 & 6.12
« Last Edit: September 27, 2023, 05:43:15 PM by gouki88 »
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2023, 05:26:44 PM »

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Just under 24 hours left until the draft kicks off! Hope you're all ready :)
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
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Just under 24 hours left until the draft kicks off! Hope you're all ready :)

Very excited. Honestly have no idea who is going to be there at 6 and how people will perceive my pick. But as someone who drafted Lebron and Kobe in my last 2 historical drafts, I’m picking guys I actually like this time!
2023 CelticsStrong Historical Draft Champions - OKC Thunder
PG: Chauncey Billups/ Baron Davis
SG: Michael Redd/ Dan Majerle/ Allan Houston
SF: Peja Stojakovic/ Gerald Wallace/ Toni Kukoc
PF: Shawn Kemp/ Antonio McDyess
C: Dwight Howard/ Tyson Chandler

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2023, 11:36:15 PM »

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Sources confirming that a potential blockbuster involving the #1 pick is picking up steam. Details to follow!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
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TRADE

theswitch trades: 1.1, 5.1 & 6.12.

smokeablount trades: 1.5, 3.5 and 7.5.
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2023, 12:26:03 AM »

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TRADE

theswitch trades: 1.1, 5.1 & 6.12.

smokeablount trades: 1.5, 3.5 and 7.5.
Wow, the first trade! Honestly think this a great deal for theswitch, if they believe that who they want will still be there at 5. Moving up so you have two 3rd round picks could be a very good move.
2023 No Top 75 Fantasy Draft Los Angeles Clippers
PG: Dennis Johnson / Jo Jo White / Stephon Marbury
SG: Sidney Moncrief / World B. Free
SF: Chris Mullin / Ron Artest
PF: Detlef Schrempf / Tom Chambers / Buck Williams
C: Ben Wallace / Andrew Bynum

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2023, 12:37:14 AM »

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TRADE

theswitch trades: 1.1, 5.1 & 6.12.

smokeablount trades: 1.5, 3.5 and 7.5.
Wow, the first trade! Honestly think this a great deal for theswitch, if they believe that who they want will still be there at 5. Moving up so you have two 3rd round picks could be a very good move.

I’d be surprised but you never know. That’d obviously be great. At the beginning of the draft if you’ve got a guy you think is clearly the best the build around, you’ve got to go for it so I’m glad he did. I was a bit antsy about the gap between 3.1 and 4.12 so I’m okay risking losing my guy for the depth. We’ll see how it plays out — have to plan for a totally new situation!
2023 Historical Draft: Toronto Raptors

Point Guard: Anfernee Hardaway, Fat Lever, Terrell Brandon
Shooting Guard: Paul Westphal, Paul Pressey
Small Forward: Marques Johnson, Danny Granger
Power Forward: Jermaine O'Neal, Bobby Jones, Kiki Vandeweghe
Center: Marc Gasol, Serge Ibaka

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
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TRADE

theswitch trades: 1.1, 5.1 & 6.12.

smokeablount trades: 1.5, 3.5 and 7.5.
Wow, the first trade! Honestly think this a great deal for theswitch, if they believe that who they want will still be there at 5. Moving up so you have two 3rd round picks could be a very good move.

I like the trade for him. For me, people are welcome to evaluate my team however they like but since we are picking the player’s year, I am going with peak years.

There is one player with one year that I think stands head and shoulders above the rest, which to me means my roster will have the best player in the NBA, and I’m willing to pay a premium to build around that. And it was fun!
2023 Non-Active / Non-NBA75 Fantasy Draft, ChiBulls:

PG: Deron Williams 07-08 / M.R. Richardson 80-81 / J. Wall 16-17
SG: David Thompson 77-78 / Hersey Hawkins 96-97
SF: Tracy McGrady 02-03 / Tayshaun Prince 06-07
PF: Larry Nance Sr 91-92 / Blake Griffin 13-14
C: Bob Lanier 76-77 / Brad Daugherty 92-93 / M. Camby 06-07

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
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This is the pre-draft intrigue we're all here for, I suspect.

Enjoy your day everyone, and see you this evening.
Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time.

But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
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This is the pre-draft intrigue we're all here for, I suspect.

Enjoy your day everyone, and see you this evening.
I am still trying to figure out which future Generals legend you’ll draft ;)
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
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This is the pre-draft intrigue we're all here for, I suspect.

Enjoy your day everyone, and see you this evening.
I am still trying to figure out which future Generals legend you’ll draft ;)

In the interest of fair play, I can say that I made a massive spreadsheet powered by a series of IFNAIndexMatch equations to determine the overall Most Obvious Rating Accounting (for) Numbers Intelligently Scored (or MORANIS) for best players - factoring in awards, accolades, All NBA selections and so forth...and my likely first-overall pick is noticeably absent from the top 499 players or so, according to the maths.
Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time.

But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
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This is the pre-draft intrigue we're all here for, I suspect.

Enjoy your day everyone, and see you this evening.
I am still trying to figure out which future Generals legend you’ll draft ;)

In the interest of fair play, I can say that I made a massive spreadsheet powered by a series of IFNAIndexMatch equations to determine the overall Most Obvious Rating Accounting (for) Numbers Intelligently Scored (or MORANIS) for best players - factoring in awards, accolades, All NBA selections and so forth...and my likely first-overall pick is noticeably absent from the top 499 players or so, according to the maths.

Hahahaha


2010 CB Historical Draft - Best Overall Team

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
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Well Kern will most obviously win because of his most obvious rating accounting for numbers intelligently scored.
2023 Historical Draft - Brooklyn Nets - 9th pick

Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

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This is the pre-draft intrigue we're all here for, I suspect.

Enjoy your day everyone, and see you this evening.
I am still trying to figure out which future Generals legend you’ll draft ;)

In the interest of fair play, I can say that I made a massive spreadsheet powered by a series of IFNAIndexMatch equations to determine the overall Most Obvious Rating Accounting (for) Numbers Intelligently Scored (or MORANIS) for best players - factoring in awards, accolades, All NBA selections and so forth...and my likely first-overall pick is noticeably absent from the top 499 players or so, according to the maths.

You Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. you stole my metric!

Tell me that you at least put the same finishing touches on the model by divinding a player’s MORANIS by 2 if they are a Celtic. If they are Jaylen Brown, multiply their MORANIS by zero.
2023 Non-Active / Non-NBA75 Fantasy Draft, ChiBulls:

PG: Deron Williams 07-08 / M.R. Richardson 80-81 / J. Wall 16-17
SG: David Thompson 77-78 / Hersey Hawkins 96-97
SF: Tracy McGrady 02-03 / Tayshaun Prince 06-07
PF: Larry Nance Sr 91-92 / Blake Griffin 13-14
C: Bob Lanier 76-77 / Brad Daugherty 92-93 / M. Camby 06-07

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
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Let's not go breaking the first rule of fight club, sir - we have to keep that detail exclusive to the Hollinger-level subscribers to the Patreon.
Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time.

But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.