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Given what each would cost, and their respective ages/contracts, who would you want?

Andre Drummond
8 (8.3%)
Myles Turner
20 (20.8%)
Clint Capela
4 (4.2%)
Marc Gasol
4 (4.2%)
Hassan Whiteside
1 (1%)
Jusuf Nurkic
6 (6.3%)
Cody Zeller
4 (4.2%)
Derrick Favors
6 (6.3%)
Steven Adams
11 (11.5%)
A Young Guy
0 (0%)
Dwayne Dedmon
5 (5.2%)
Ehhh, none  are worth what it would cost
27 (28.1%)

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Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #225 on: November 09, 2019, 02:06:42 PM »

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Langford, Celtics' 2019 1st and Bucks' 1st for Mo Bamba.

He just needs to be coached better. Still a lot of potential.  Magic have too much big depth. They won't give up Isaac.

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #226 on: November 09, 2019, 02:56:57 PM »

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Langford, Celtics' 2019 1st and Bucks' 1st for Mo Bamba.

He just needs to be coached better. Still a lot of potential.  Magic have too much big depth. They won't give up Isaac.

You need to ship out at least one big in a Mamba trade. Carrying 5 centers not counting Tacko is too many.

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #227 on: November 09, 2019, 03:12:27 PM »

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Langford, Celtics' 2019 1st and Bucks' 1st for Mo Bamba.

He just needs to be coached better. Still a lot of potential.  Magic have too much big depth. They won't give up Isaac.
Basically three firsts for Mo Bamba is a massive, massive overpay. I wouldn't do anything more than Langford.

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #228 on: November 09, 2019, 03:17:11 PM »

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Langford, Celtics' 2019 1st and Bucks' 1st for Mo Bamba.

He just needs to be coached better. Still a lot of potential.  Magic have too much big depth. They won't give up Isaac.
Basically three firsts for Mo Bamba is a massive, massive overpay. I wouldn't do anything more than Langford.
Would you trade Langford for Bamba?

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #229 on: November 09, 2019, 03:36:04 PM »

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Langford, Celtics' 2019 1st and Bucks' 1st for Mo Bamba.

He just needs to be coached better. Still a lot of potential.  Magic have too much big depth. They won't give up Isaac.
Basically three firsts for Mo Bamba is a massive, massive overpay. I wouldn't do anything more than Langford.
Would you trade Langford for Bamba?
No, but it's because I don't think Bamba is any better of a prospect than Robert Williams. Don't see trading someone Ainge feels has 20 PPG upside, who we haven't actually seen play, for a guy who's game we already have in Timelord.

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #230 on: November 15, 2019, 01:25:06 PM »

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I didnt search through the thread but what would it take to get Jarrett Allen from the Nets?

one of our bigs and Memphis pick + another 1st????

Thinking:
1. DeAndre Jordan is Kyries buddy and has been playing about even with Collins even starting over him a few times thus far.

2. Nets are not going anywhere this year without KD, so might as well look to acquire some draft picks????

3. so maybe they may be interested in a big like theiss/kanter/williams  to back up DeAndre.


Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #231 on: November 15, 2019, 02:28:23 PM »

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I didnt search through the thread but what would it take to get Jarrett Allen from the Nets?

one of our bigs and Memphis pick + another 1st????

Thinking:
1. DeAndre Jordan is Kyries buddy and has been playing about even with Collins even starting over him a few times thus far.

2. Nets are not going anywhere this year without KD, so might as well look to acquire some draft picks????

3. so maybe they may be interested in a big like theiss/kanter/williams  to back up DeAndre.

That seems like a massive overpay and only a slight upgrade over only some of our centers....

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #232 on: November 15, 2019, 02:55:22 PM »

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Thomas Bryant

- super efficient around the basket (led the league in two-point percentage last season at 69%)

- I remember him having a nice mid range game in college. He's trying to expand his range up to the 3 pt line (33.3% from three last season in 1.4 attempts per game)



- 80% (24-30) from the free throw line this season which confirms his potential as a shooter

- elite physical tools
Height w/o Shoes     6' 9.5''
Height w/ Shoes 6' 10.75''
Wingspan 7' 6'' (!)
Standing Reach 9' 4.5''
Hand Length 9.5   
Hand Width 10.25 (in comparison, Mo Bamba's hand length and width were measured at 9.75 and 10.25 respectively)

- 22 years old. Fits the time frame of our young core (Tatum, Brown, hopefully Williams, Edwards, Langford etc)

« Last Edit: November 15, 2019, 03:03:21 PM by Jvalin »

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #233 on: November 15, 2019, 02:59:56 PM »

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I didnt search through the thread but what would it take to get Jarrett Allen from the Nets?

one of our bigs and Memphis pick + another 1st????

Thinking:
1. DeAndre Jordan is Kyries buddy and has been playing about even with Collins even starting over him a few times thus far.

2. Nets are not going anywhere this year without KD, so might as well look to acquire some draft picks????

3. so maybe they may be interested in a big like theiss/kanter/williams  to back up DeAndre.

I actually did suggest that earlier in the thread (I think it was this thread). It would be a good thought if Allen was being marginalized in the favor of a veteran who was a worse player than him, but Allen's still starting and playing just as many minutes as last year. If he somehow fell out of favor I would absolutely want to make play on him. I think he is a very good young player.

I still like our guys though.

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #234 on: November 15, 2019, 03:00:34 PM »

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Thomas Bryant

- super efficient around the basket (led the league in two-point percentage last season at 69%)

- I remember him having a nice mid range game in college. He ain't shooting mid range jumpers in the NBA, but he's trying to expand his range up to the 3 pt line (33.3% from three last season in 1.4 attempts per game)

- 80% (24-30) from the free throw line this season which confirms his potential as a shooter

- elite physical tools
Height w/o Shoes     6' 9.5''
Height w/ Shoes 6' 10.75''
Wingspan 7' 6'' (!)
Standing Reach 9' 4.5''
Hand Length 9.5   
Hand Width 10.25 (in comparison, Mo Bamba's hand length and width were measured at 9.75 and 10.25 respectively)

- 22 years old. Fits the time frame of our young core (Tatum, Brown, hopefully Williams, Edwards, Langford etc)

I like Bryant, but his defense is absolutely awful. He's slow-footed.

He's a worse version of Kanter.

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #235 on: November 15, 2019, 03:04:25 PM »

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Thomas Bryant

- super efficient around the basket (led the league in two-point percentage last season at 69%)

- I remember him having a nice mid range game in college. He ain't shooting mid range jumpers in the NBA, but he's trying to expand his range up to the 3 pt line (33.3% from three last season in 1.4 attempts per game)

- 80% (24-30) from the free throw line this season which confirms his potential as a shooter

- elite physical tools
Height w/o Shoes     6' 9.5''
Height w/ Shoes 6' 10.75''
Wingspan 7' 6'' (!)
Standing Reach 9' 4.5''
Hand Length 9.5   
Hand Width 10.25 (in comparison, Mo Bamba's hand length and width were measured at 9.75 and 10.25 respectively)

- 22 years old. Fits the time frame of our young core (Tatum, Brown, hopefully Williams, Edwards, Langford etc)
Bryant was just signed to a bargain 3 year deal. He can't be traded for another month and Washington loves him.

Why exactly would Washington move him?

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #236 on: November 15, 2019, 03:08:30 PM »

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Thomas Bryant

- super efficient around the basket (led the league in two-point percentage last season at 69%)

- I remember him having a nice mid range game in college. He ain't shooting mid range jumpers in the NBA, but he's trying to expand his range up to the 3 pt line (33.3% from three last season in 1.4 attempts per game)

- 80% (24-30) from the free throw line this season which confirms his potential as a shooter

- elite physical tools
Height w/o Shoes     6' 9.5''
Height w/ Shoes 6' 10.75''
Wingspan 7' 6'' (!)
Standing Reach 9' 4.5''
Hand Length 9.5   
Hand Width 10.25 (in comparison, Mo Bamba's hand length and width were measured at 9.75 and 10.25 respectively)

- 22 years old. Fits the time frame of our young core (Tatum, Brown, hopefully Williams, Edwards, Langford etc)

I like Bryant, but his defense is absolutely awful. He's slow-footed.

He's a worse version of Kanter.
He's better than Kanter cause at least he possesses elite physical tools (1.6 blocks per game this season). But yeah, he's slow footed which means that his pick n roll D is awful.


Bryant was just signed to a bargain 3 year deal. He can't be traded for another month and Washington loves him.

Why exactly would Washington move him?
I have no answer to that. Maybe cause they want to sell high on him in order to tank. I mean, stranger things have happened.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2019, 03:19:56 PM by Jvalin »

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #237 on: November 15, 2019, 03:42:31 PM »

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I didnt search through the thread but what would it take to get Jarrett Allen from the Nets?

one of our bigs and Memphis pick + another 1st????

Thinking:
1. DeAndre Jordan is Kyries buddy and has been playing about even with Collins even starting over him a few times thus far.

2. Nets are not going anywhere this year without KD, so might as well look to acquire some draft picks????

3. so maybe they may be interested in a big like theiss/kanter/williams  to back up DeAndre.

That seems like a massive overpay and only a slight upgrade over only some of our centers....

I was asking what is his worth. I wouldnt give up all of that. Maybe theis + 1st(maybe mem)

I think Allen is young and would fit out team like a glove. And IMO he is a major upgrade for our C position.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/dsRUs8RiAL4



I actually did suggest that earlier in the thread (I think it was this thread). It would be a good thought if Allen was being marginalized in the favor of a veteran who was a worse player than him, but Allen's still starting and playing just as many minutes as last year. If he somehow fell out of favor I would absolutely want to make play on him. I think he is a very good young player.

I still like our guys though.

He might eventually. DeAndre has started over him in 3 out of 11 games and I think Kyrie prefers Deandre....

I would trade any of our bigs without blinking for Allen, I like them but Allen is a clear upgrade to me

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #238 on: November 15, 2019, 03:59:52 PM »

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I like Allen. I don't think the C's have a realistic package to get him though. Brooklyn needs young talent in the front court, we don't offer a replacement, and he's under team control for a while still (they really need this as they have so much money committed already). I also don't think he's worth the Memphis pick currently.

I do think its funny that he's proposed as a solution to our big man rotation and the reason people worry about our big men is Giannis and Embiid are in the East.

Embiid and Giannis take great joy of stuffing Allen into the basket with aplomb when they play. I mean we just watched a clearly ailing Embiid just destroy him in the playoffs this past year.

http://bkref.com/tiny/QiWWI
http://bkref.com/tiny/Di46q

Bonus: Anthony Davis also stuffs him into the basket
http://bkref.com/tiny/9Xws0

Re: Big Man Options
« Reply #239 on: November 15, 2019, 04:02:44 PM »

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Thomas Bryant is not on the market, not unless the Wizards go full fire sale and that'd only happen if Beal is on the move (aka next year if they still suck).

Also he's another offensive C (he has zero clue on D), I don't see how he adds much to the roster given we already have a pretty solid offensive C option.