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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #120 on: May 01, 2018, 09:38:11 AM »

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I think it is just increasing Rozier's trade value.   Rookie contract. 

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #121 on: May 01, 2018, 10:36:14 AM »

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Ya ll wait till 100% Healthy Irving takes the court with the eye of the Tiger ,  not gonna miss Rozier one minute .   Uncle drew will do Unlce Drew stuff to everybody .

I ll take the fleecing DA is about to slap on somebodies butt .

Question is which sucker is gonna bite on DA hookwhen he dangles Rozier.


Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #122 on: May 01, 2018, 10:39:55 AM »

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I'm wondering when our assets will have the Patriots effect across the league. Meaning GM's just start to think they are a product of Stevens system and really not as good as they appear to be.

Combine that and the reputation Ainge has on getting the better end of a deal makes you wonder how much teams will be willing to trade for guys like Scary Terry.

I mean who has left the C's and has been as productive? Kelly O maybe? Crowder is showing life on Utah, but that's really it.

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #123 on: May 01, 2018, 01:48:39 PM »

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Every game the Celts keep winning, the closer this subject is not looking ridiculous

I mean at this rate, does Rozier and his camp take a role less than being a starter?

One thing Rozier has an adv over Kyrie is defense. I don't think anyone can argue this

Two,  I think he has a better jump shot.   Not saying he is a better jump shooter yet, but has the ability to make off balance shot, rises up higher, quicker release.... also clutch. 

May have a chance for less injury as shooting and occasional drives to the basket are staples of his game vs Kyrie adventures to the basket which can increase chance to aggravate injuries


Unless the Celts win it all this year, no chance Kyrie is not brought back next season. But the Celts must keep Rozier and Smart , at least for one more season before making a huge decision as to what to do for 2019-2020 season

Maybe Kyrie is damaged goods or constantly injured (and not extended/traded).  Team will definitely need Smart and Rozier to make it up then

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #124 on: May 01, 2018, 02:09:51 PM »

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Come on, guys.  Rozier's literal best game ever is only a smidge better than par for Kyrie. 

Kyrie averaged 24/5/4 while throwing in a steal per game and coming pretty close to the 50/40/90 club.  Have we already forgotten how good this guy is?  I love what Rozier is doing for us right now, but let's be reasonable. 

My hope is that Rozier can channel this hot streak into a legit 6th man of the year argument next year and then go get himself paid.  But he's not making Kyrie expendable. 

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« Reply #125 on: May 01, 2018, 02:12:20 PM »

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Come on, guys.  Rozier's literal best game ever is only a smidge better than par for Kyrie. 

Kyrie averaged 24/5/4 while throwing in a steal per game and coming pretty close to the 50/40/90 club.  Have we already forgotten how good this guy is?  I love what Rozier is doing for us right now, but let's be reasonable. 

My hope is that Rozier can channel this hot streak into a legit 6th man of the year argument next year and then go get himself paid.  But he's not making Kyrie expendable.

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« Reply #126 on: May 01, 2018, 02:16:32 PM »

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Come on, guys.  Rozier's literal best game ever is only a smidge better than par for Kyrie. 

Kyrie averaged 24/5/4 while throwing in a steal per game and coming pretty close to the 50/40/90 club.  Have we already forgotten how good this guy is?  I love what Rozier is doing for us right now, but let's be reasonable. 

My hope is that Rozier can channel this hot streak into a legit 6th man of the year argument next year and then go get himself paid.  But he's not making Kyrie expendable.

when would you change your mind?

What if the help with Rozier the Celts it to the ECF? or Finals? Or win it all

at what point would you change your mind...curious

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« Reply #127 on: May 01, 2018, 02:27:13 PM »

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Come on, guys.  Rozier's literal best game ever is only a smidge better than par for Kyrie. 

Kyrie averaged 24/5/4 while throwing in a steal per game and coming pretty close to the 50/40/90 club.  Have we already forgotten how good this guy is?  I love what Rozier is doing for us right now, but let's be reasonable. 

My hope is that Rozier can channel this hot streak into a legit 6th man of the year argument next year and then go get himself paid.  But he's not making Kyrie expendable.

when would you change your mind?

What if the help with Rozier the Celts it to the ECF? or Finals? Or win it all

at what point would you change your mind...curious
For me, at no point.  This thread makes little sense.  First, people have it backwards.  The question is, how much can we get for Rozier now that he is showing flashes?  No way we trade Kyrie, especially because Rozier is had some good games.

Second, we'd all be happy to trade a very good asset (e.g., Kyrie) for a great asset (e.g., Kawhi).  But how to we get to lucky?  How come we get more than we give?

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« Reply #128 on: May 01, 2018, 02:30:09 PM »

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Come on, guys.  Rozier's literal best game ever is only a smidge better than par for Kyrie. 

Kyrie averaged 24/5/4 while throwing in a steal per game and coming pretty close to the 50/40/90 club.  Have we already forgotten how good this guy is?  I love what Rozier is doing for us right now, but let's be reasonable. 

My hope is that Rozier can channel this hot streak into a legit 6th man of the year argument next year and then go get himself paid.  But he's not making Kyrie expendable.

when would you change your mind?

What if the help with Rozier the Celts it to the ECF? or Finals? Or win it all

at what point would you change your mind...curious
There are too many factors at play.

You can't just pick a point and say if we get that far Irving is expendable.

Rozier isnt someone I want to rely on game in and game out. In 3 road games this playoffs he's shooting 28%(10/36) from the field, 26%(7/27) from 3, and averaging just 11.7points.

He's so far exceeded my expectations and I am blown away by his play, but he's still not consistent and it's tough to put faith in him as your starting point guard.
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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #129 on: May 01, 2018, 02:52:31 PM »

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Come on, guys.  Rozier's literal best game ever is only a smidge better than par for Kyrie. 

Kyrie averaged 24/5/4 while throwing in a steal per game and coming pretty close to the 50/40/90 club.  Have we already forgotten how good this guy is?  I love what Rozier is doing for us right now, but let's be reasonable. 

My hope is that Rozier can channel this hot streak into a legit 6th man of the year argument next year and then go get himself paid.  But he's not making Kyrie expendable.

when would you change your mind?

What if the help with Rozier the Celts it to the ECF? or Finals? Or win it all

at what point would you change your mind...curious
For me, at no point.  This thread makes little sense.  First, people have it backwards.  The question is, how much can we get for Rozier now that he is showing flashes?  No way we trade Kyrie, especially because Rozier is had some good games.

Second, we'd all be happy to trade a very good asset (e.g., Kyrie) for a great asset (e.g., Kawhi).  But how to we get to lucky?  How come we get more than we give?

you are not answering the question

are you saying if the Celts win the championship with Rozier as one of the key players

the question should still be, how much more we can milk out of somebody (via trade).  Still got to keep Kyrie?

I don't think its as simple as this


Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #130 on: May 01, 2018, 02:54:34 PM »

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Come on, guys.  Rozier's literal best game ever is only a smidge better than par for Kyrie. 

Kyrie averaged 24/5/4 while throwing in a steal per game and coming pretty close to the 50/40/90 club.  Have we already forgotten how good this guy is?  I love what Rozier is doing for us right now, but let's be reasonable. 

My hope is that Rozier can channel this hot streak into a legit 6th man of the year argument next year and then go get himself paid.  But he's not making Kyrie expendable.

when would you change your mind?

What if the help with Rozier the Celts it to the ECF? or Finals? Or win it all

at what point would you change your mind...curious
There are too many factors at play.

You can't just pick a point and say if we get that far Irving is expendable.

Rozier isnt someone I want to rely on game in and game out. In 3 road games this playoffs he's shooting 28%(10/36) from the field, 26%(7/27) from 3, and averaging just 11.7points.

He's so far exceeded my expectations and I am blown away by his play, but he's still not consistent and it's tough to put faith in him as your starting point guard.

It doesn't have to be Rozier = starting PG.   Is Rozier looking like starting material

Right now , he is not running the point half the time with Larkin, Smart out on the court

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« Reply #131 on: May 01, 2018, 02:59:47 PM »

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One other thing to keep in mind.  What happens if Kyrie decides he wants to play in New York.  When he opts out next year every team has a shot at him.  I hope he likes it in Boston and all sign show him returning but what happens if he does not.  If the C's trade Rozier and Kyrie walks they have no one to replace him.  Maybe Rozier is kept next year as Kyrie insurance and if Kyrie insinuates he wants to test FA and all the teams he's interested in have a shot then it's easy to resign Rozier. Kyrie has not stated yet that he is going to reup with the C's.  He's made comments that lead me to believe he will but he hasn't stated like KD has stated that I am not leaving I am definitely signing my contract when I Opt out.  This is the one scenario I really didn't think of until now because I've always assumed Kyrie would resign with Boston.

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« Reply #132 on: May 01, 2018, 03:01:50 PM »

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This Rozier stuff certainly screams "prisoner of the moment".


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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #133 on: May 01, 2018, 03:06:38 PM »

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Come on, guys.  Rozier's literal best game ever is only a smidge better than par for Kyrie. 

Kyrie averaged 24/5/4 while throwing in a steal per game and coming pretty close to the 50/40/90 club.  Have we already forgotten how good this guy is?  I love what Rozier is doing for us right now, but let's be reasonable. 

My hope is that Rozier can channel this hot streak into a legit 6th man of the year argument next year and then go get himself paid.  But he's not making Kyrie expendable.

when would you change your mind?

What if the help with Rozier the Celts it to the ECF? or Finals? Or win it all

at what point would you change your mind...curious

Rozier isnt someone I want to rely on game in and game out. In 3 road games this playoffs he's shooting 28%(10/36) from the field, 26%(7/27) from 3, and averaging just 11.7points.



I do agree on this minus

unless he can come through on a few road games in the playoffs....  he still has things to prove

at home with the fans cheering him on, he has been dynamite

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #134 on: May 01, 2018, 03:21:35 PM »

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Rozier breaking out like this kind of reminds of Reggie Jackson's time in OKC when Westbrook was out injured. Jackson ended up refusing a bench role and demanded to be traded. Wondering if Rozier would accept a role as a 7th man off the bench after all of this.
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