Noel Frustration: Celtics trade coming?

[tazzmaniac]

The new revelations about the CBA in relation to RFA make a potential Nerlens move much more palatable for us.

What do you mean?

While RFA's can sign offer sheets during the moratorium (we knew this was coming), the clock to match doesn't start until the end of the moratorium (we didn't know about this), so now we can trade for Nerlens, go after a Blake or Hayward in FA and not worry about sacrificing Nerlens (or Kelly for that matter) if we don't end up landing a big fish.

Their cap holds would still apply.  There is also the cap hold for the Nets pick.  We won't have enough cap space for a 30M MAX player with or without Nerlens. 

[trickybilly]

Noel for 2018 celtic pick and the Memphis pick.

I think we have to send out salary. Zeller is available yet, nor Amir (I don't think).. not sure that Rozier is enough salary either.

Actually, I think it would have to be Mickey, Rozier, Green and a pick (if done today)

[tazzmaniac]

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660466695536640

https://twitter.com/blanchardJRB/status/810206523540566016

Not sure why anyone should care about those.  This is The Process:

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660183361851393

and of course there is Simmons too plus their two top 10 picks this year.  Okafor and Noel could be complete busts, which they aren't, and it won't matter if Embiid stays healthy and Simmons comes close to his potential.

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. The point of these tweets was to show how mismanaged this entire situation has been and how it has screwed Nerlens Noel the most.

Noel chose to have elective surgery at the start of the season.  He said it was because he had pain last season so why didn't he have the surgery right after the season.  Then he goes on his media rants.  He could have started the season healthy and presenting a positive outlook.  The Sixers would have had every incentive to showcase him.  Instead he acted like a petulant child and screwed himself and the Sixers.

Righhhtttttt.

Brown has little sympathy for Noel. 
https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/status/810670432449941504

[jpotter33]

Noel for 2018 celtic pick and the Memphis pick.

I think we have to send out salary. Zeller is available yet, nor Amir (I don't think).. not sure that Rozier is enough salary either.

Actually, I think it would have to be Mickey, Rozier, Green and a pick (if done today)

Rozier, Young, and a pick works in the trade machine: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ho2mozg.

[tazzmaniac]

Noel for 2018 celtic pick and the Memphis pick.

I think we have to send out salary. Zeller is available yet, nor Amir (I don't think).. not sure that Rozier is enough salary either.

Actually, I think it would have to be Mickey, Rozier, Green and a pick (if done today)

Rozier, Young, and a pick works in the trade machine: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ho2mozg.

I'd like to snag Covington too.  Rozier and Young works for both. I'd give up the 2018 Celtics pick and the 2019 Memphis pick for both. 

[jpotter33]

Noel for 2018 celtic pick and the Memphis pick.

I think we have to send out salary. Zeller is available yet, nor Amir (I don't think).. not sure that Rozier is enough salary either.

Actually, I think it would have to be Mickey, Rozier, Green and a pick (if done today)

Rozier, Young, and a pick works in the trade machine: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ho2mozg.

I'd like to snag Covington too.  Rozier and Young works for both. I'd give up the 2018 Celtics pick and the 2019 Memphis pick for both.

Yeah, I like Covington, too, though I'd honestly prefer to give those minutes to Brown off the bench to keep him developing. He would be a good insurance policy in case we traded Brown for an upgrade somewhere else, though.

[tazzmaniac]

Not sure what it means but I think we're entering the land of the surreal.  Apparently Noel fired his agent 3 days ago and then hired Cousins agent. 
http://www.celticslife.com/2016/12/nerlens-noel-fires-agent-hires-demarcus.html

[trickybilly]

Not sure what it means but I think we're entering the land of the surreal.  Apparently Noel fired his agent 3 days ago and then hired Cousins agent. 
http://www.celticslife.com/2016/12/nerlens-noel-fires-agent-hires-demarcus.html

2 malcontents on the Cs?

There were many people calling for Javale McGee last year when he was waived by I forget. Peak McGee on this team would be nice.

[MBunge]

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660466695536640

https://twitter.com/blanchardJRB/status/810206523540566016

Not sure why anyone should care about those.  This is The Process:

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660183361851393

and of course there is Simmons too plus their two top 10 picks this year.  Okafor and Noel could be complete busts, which they aren't, and it won't matter if Embiid stays healthy and Simmons comes close to his potential.

The Process was never about building a contender or even winning one championship.  It was sold as doing something no one else had to achieve something beyond normal expectations.  If two of your top four picks in the process turn out to essentially be busts, you're not doing anything extraordinary.  You're just OKC east.  And while that's a pretty nice thing to be, is it worth throwing away 4 or 5 years of your basketball life? 

Mike

[celticsclay]

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660466695536640

https://twitter.com/blanchardJRB/status/810206523540566016

Not sure why anyone should care about those.  This is The Process:

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660183361851393

and of course there is Simmons too plus their two top 10 picks this year.  Okafor and Noel could be complete busts, which they aren't, and it won't matter if Embiid stays healthy and Simmons comes close to his potential.

The Process was never about building a contender or even winning one championship.  It was sold as doing something no one else had to achieve something beyond normal expectations.  If two of your top four picks in the process turn out to essentially be busts, you're not doing anything extraordinary.  You're just OKC east.  And while that's a pretty nice thing to be, is it worth throwing away 4 or 5 years of your basketball life? 

Mike

pretty sure okafor will be viewed as a big bust when all is said and done

[mahcussmaht]

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660466695536640

https://twitter.com/blanchardJRB/status/810206523540566016

Not sure why anyone should care about those.  This is The Process:

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660183361851393

and of course there is Simmons too plus their two top 10 picks this year.  Okafor and Noel could be complete busts, which they aren't, and it won't matter if Embiid stays healthy and Simmons comes close to his potential.

The Process was never about building a contender or even winning one championship.  It was sold as doing something no one else had to achieve something beyond normal expectations.  If two of your top four picks in the process turn out to essentially be busts, you're not doing anything extraordinary.  You're just OKC east.  And while that's a pretty nice thing to be, is it worth throwing away 4 or 5 years of your basketball life? 

Mike

I thought the process was about trying to maximize odds of getting a generational talent.  That seems to be what Embiid is.

I don't understand why every other thread on this forum is about Okafor and Noel.  Okafor is the worst player ever.  Noel is a good defensive big and will probably be traded for Crabbe.  Why aren't there more threads about Embiid here?  I'd give up the entire team for Embiid.

[tazzmaniac]

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660466695536640

https://twitter.com/blanchardJRB/status/810206523540566016

Not sure why anyone should care about those.  This is The Process:

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660183361851393

and of course there is Simmons too plus their two top 10 picks this year.  Okafor and Noel could be complete busts, which they aren't, and it won't matter if Embiid stays healthy and Simmons comes close to his potential.

The Process was never about building a contender or even winning one championship.  It was sold as doing something no one else had to achieve something beyond normal expectations.  If two of your top four picks in the process turn out to essentially be busts, you're not doing anything extraordinary.  You're just OKC east.  And while that's a pretty nice thing to be, is it worth throwing away 4 or 5 years of your basketball life? 

Mike

That's utter nonsense.  The goal of the process was to acquire stars to build a long term contender.  Hinkie never claimed he was doing anything extraordinary.  The whole point of tanking and acquiring lots of picks was the acknowledgement that picks often don't work out like you hope they would.  To maximize the chance of success, you have to maximize the quality and quantity of your picks. 

Hinkie was only GM for three seasons.  The Sixers are in a much better position than when he started.  If Embiid hadn't suffered his re-injury, Hinkie would probably still be their GM.  To call Okafor and Noel essentially busts is downright silly.  They're both going to be playing in the NBA for quite awhile.  To answer your question, becoming the OKC of the East is worth 4 or 5 years when they probably would have had at least 2 or 3 losing seasons anyway.   

[tazzmaniac]

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660466695536640

https://twitter.com/blanchardJRB/status/810206523540566016

Not sure why anyone should care about those.  This is The Process:

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660183361851393

and of course there is Simmons too plus their two top 10 picks this year.  Okafor and Noel could be complete busts, which they aren't, and it won't matter if Embiid stays healthy and Simmons comes close to his potential.

The Process was never about building a contender or even winning one championship.  It was sold as doing something no one else had to achieve something beyond normal expectations.  If two of your top four picks in the process turn out to essentially be busts, you're not doing anything extraordinary.  You're just OKC east.  And while that's a pretty nice thing to be, is it worth throwing away 4 or 5 years of your basketball life? 

Mike

I thought the process was about trying to maximize odds of getting a generational talent.  That seems to be what Embiid is.

I don't understand why every other thread on this forum is about Okafor and Noel.  Okafor is the worst player ever.  Noel is a good defensive big and will probably be traded for Crabbe.  Why aren't there more threads about Embiid here?  I'd give up the entire team for Embiid.

How long have you been watching the NBA?  Two days?  Okafor is not the worst player ever.  The Sixers have a lot of worse players than Okafor.  Heck we've got Young and Mickey.  I certainly hope the Sixers have a better Noel trade than for Crabbe because Crabbe can't be traded until Jan 15. 

I certainly agree about Embid being a franchise player and they might just have a 2nd one in Simmons. 

[Ilikesports17]

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660466695536640

https://twitter.com/blanchardJRB/status/810206523540566016

Not sure why anyone should care about those.  This is The Process:

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660183361851393

and of course there is Simmons too plus their two top 10 picks this year.  Okafor and Noel could be complete busts, which they aren't, and it won't matter if Embiid stays healthy and Simmons comes close to his potential.

The Process was never about building a contender or even winning one championship.  It was sold as doing something no one else had to achieve something beyond normal expectations.  If two of your top four picks in the process turn out to essentially be busts, you're not doing anything extraordinary.  You're just OKC east.  And while that's a pretty nice thing to be, is it worth throwing away 4 or 5 years of your basketball life? 

Mike

I thought the process was about trying to maximize odds of getting a generational talent.  That seems to be what Embiid is.

I don't understand why every other thread on this forum is about Okafor and Noel.  Okafor is the worst player ever.  Noel is a good defensive big and will probably be traded for Crabbe.  Why aren't there more threads about Embiid here?  I'd give up the entire team for Embiid.

Huge overreaction on Okafor.

Also, the reason you don't see Embiid threads is because people realize that Embiid isn't getting moved.

[trickybilly]

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660466695536640

https://twitter.com/blanchardJRB/status/810206523540566016

Not sure why anyone should care about those.  This is The Process:

https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/810660183361851393

and of course there is Simmons too plus their two top 10 picks this year.  Okafor and Noel could be complete busts, which they aren't, and it won't matter if Embiid stays healthy and Simmons comes close to his potential.

The Process was never about building a contender or even winning one championship.  It was sold as doing something no one else had to achieve something beyond normal expectations.  If two of your top four picks in the process turn out to essentially be busts, you're not doing anything extraordinary.  You're just OKC east.  And while that's a pretty nice thing to be, is it worth throwing away 4 or 5 years of your basketball life? 

Mike

The idea is to land 1 superstar - 1 LeBron. Philly might have pulled it off, maybe 2. Time will tell...