Jason Thompson, Carl Landry & Nik Stauskas traded to Philadelphia 76ers

[tazzmaniac]

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
#sixers can only swap picks with Kings in 2016 if pick doesn't convey. Then if it doesn't convey, same thing in 2017

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
Top-10 protected in 2016. If it doesn't convey in 2016, is top-10 protected in 2017.

So the Sixers can swap picks in at least 2016 or 2017 and potentially both years.  If the Kings finish in the 10th spot both years that would give the Sixers an additional 4% chance at a top 3 pick each year.  If they finish in 6th like they did this year that would give the Sixers an additional 21.5% chance at a top 3 pick. 

[LarBrd33]

If you want to feel better about some of the misery and pessimism here, go to Sactownroyalty.  The Kings fans are devestated.  It's hilarious.


From one of the articles:
"The Sacramento Kings are a bad basketball team, have been a bad basketball team for some time and look to remain a bad basketball team for the foreseeable future."

The comments are priceless.

http://www.sactownroyalty.com

They have a right to be upset. This is like Boston giving up marcus smart to dump Gerald Wallace's contract. It's horrible.  The Kings and hornets are fighting with each for the worst run team in basketball.

That said, I'd probably swap our roster with either one of those teams right now.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
#sixers can only swap picks with Kings in 2016 if pick doesn't convey. Then if it doesn't convey, same thing in 2017

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
Top-10 protected in 2016. If it doesn't convey in 2016, is top-10 protected in 2017.

So the Sixers can swap picks in at least 2016 or 2017 and potentially both years.  If the Kings finish in the 10th spot both years that would give the Sixers an additional 4% chance at a top 3 pick each year.  If they finish in 6th like they did this year that would give the Sixers an additional 21.5% chance at a top 3 pick. 

I'm still confused as to what it means.

[CelticSooner]

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
#sixers can only swap picks with Kings in 2016 if pick doesn't convey. Then if it doesn't convey, same thing in 2017

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
Top-10 protected in 2016. If it doesn't convey in 2016, is top-10 protected in 2017.

So the Sixers can swap picks in at least 2016 or 2017 and potentially both years.  If the Kings finish in the 10th spot both years that would give the Sixers an additional 4% chance at a top 3 pick each year.  If they finish in 6th like they did this year that would give the Sixers an additional 21.5% chance at a top 3 pick.

If the Kings finish in the top 10 (which they will) they don't have to swap picks. It's a gamble on the Kings finishing 11-14 and potentially napping a top 3 pick.

[tazzmaniac]

If you want to feel better about some of the misery and pessimism here, go to Sactownroyalty.  The Kings fans are devestated.  It's hilarious.


From one of the articles:
"The Sacramento Kings are a bad basketball team, have been a bad basketball team for some time and look to remain a bad basketball team for the foreseeable future."

The comments are priceless.

http://www.sactownroyalty.com

They have a right to be upset. This is like Boston giving up marcus smart to dump Gerald Wallace's contract. It's horrible.  The Kings and hornets are fighting with each for the worst run team in basketball.

That said, I'd probably swap our roster with either one of those teams right now.

Imagine how upset their fans will be if the free agents the Kings are targeting don't end up signing with them.  Then Cousins gets so upset with the debacle that he publicly demands a trade. We of course swoop in to take him of their hands.   

[tazzmaniac]

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
#sixers can only swap picks with Kings in 2016 if pick doesn't convey. Then if it doesn't convey, same thing in 2017

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
Top-10 protected in 2016. If it doesn't convey in 2016, is top-10 protected in 2017.

So the Sixers can swap picks in at least 2016 or 2017 and potentially both years.  If the Kings finish in the 10th spot both years that would give the Sixers an additional 4% chance at a top 3 pick each year.  If they finish in 6th like they did this year that would give the Sixers an additional 21.5% chance at a top 3 pick.

If the Kings finish in the top 10 (which they will) they don't have to swap picks. It's a gamble on the Kings finishing 11-14 and potentially napping a top 3 pick.

The Kings traded their 1st rounder to Chicago (top 10 protected in 2016 and 2017).  If Sacramento finishes inside top 10 in 2016, Chicago doesn't get the pick and Philly has the right to swap 1sts.  Then if Sacramento finishes inside the top 10 in 2017, Chicago gets the Sacramento 2nd rounder and Philly has the right to swap 1sts.  Then in 2018 Philly gets the Sacramento pick (top 10 protected?). 

[knuckleballer]

Vlade had spent the past six years as the head of the Serbian Olympic Committee.  While that's impressive, why would Vivek think that means he knows how to run an NBA team? It's so irrational, but of course this does come from the guy who thinks he knows more than NBA coaches because he once coached a 12 year old girls' team. 

[CelticSooner]

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
#sixers can only swap picks with Kings in 2016 if pick doesn't convey. Then if it doesn't convey, same thing in 2017

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
Top-10 protected in 2016. If it doesn't convey in 2016, is top-10 protected in 2017.

So the Sixers can swap picks in at least 2016 or 2017 and potentially both years.  If the Kings finish in the 10th spot both years that would give the Sixers an additional 4% chance at a top 3 pick each year.  If they finish in 6th like they did this year that would give the Sixers an additional 21.5% chance at a top 3 pick.

If the Kings finish in the top 10 (which they will) they don't have to swap picks. It's a gamble on the Kings finishing 11-14 and potentially napping a top 3 pick.

The Kings traded their 1st rounder to Chicago (top 10 protected in 2016 and 2017).  If Sacramento finishes inside top 10 in 2016, Chicago doesn't get the pick and Philly has the right to swap 1sts.  Then if Sacramento finishes inside the top 10 in 2017, Chicago gets the Sacramento 2nd rounder and Philly has the right to swap 1sts.  Then in 2018 Philly gets the Sacramento pick (top 10 protected?).

Lol Kings are a complete mess and playing with fire. Sixers done good here then.

[tazzmaniac]

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
#sixers can only swap picks with Kings in 2016 if pick doesn't convey. Then if it doesn't convey, same thing in 2017

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
Top-10 protected in 2016. If it doesn't convey in 2016, is top-10 protected in 2017.

So the Sixers can swap picks in at least 2016 or 2017 and potentially both years.  If the Kings finish in the 10th spot both years that would give the Sixers an additional 4% chance at a top 3 pick each year.  If they finish in 6th like they did this year that would give the Sixers an additional 21.5% chance at a top 3 pick.

If the Kings finish in the top 10 (which they will) they don't have to swap picks. It's a gamble on the Kings finishing 11-14 and potentially napping a top 3 pick.

The Kings traded their 1st rounder to Chicago (top 10 protected in 2016 and 2017).  If Sacramento finishes inside top 10 in 2016, Chicago doesn't get the pick and Philly has the right to swap 1sts.  Then if Sacramento finishes inside the top 10 in 2017, Chicago gets the Sacramento 2nd rounder and Philly has the right to swap 1sts.  Then in 2018 Philly gets the Sacramento pick (top 10 protected?).

Lol Kings are a complete mess and playing with fire. Sixers done good here then.

Assuming everything reported is accurate, the Sixers potentially did really good.
http://nba.derekbodner.com/2015/07/02/sixers-acquire-nik-stauskas-1st-round-pick-from-kings/
 

[HomerSapien]

This is such a heist for Phily. By February when the Kings have the 6th worst record in the league and Cousins is forcing his way to another team those pick swaps will look mighty tasty. 2017 draft has 3 future NBA superstars in the class, and the Sixers just increased their odds of guaranteeing one lands in Phily.

I had been hoping the Celtics could land the Kings 2017 1st as a facilitator of a 3 way trade with Denver but Hinkie took that dream away. I bet by the end of this season that pick swap looks like one of the most valuable draft assets in the league (I say Kings win less than 25 games in 2016-17)

[ssspence]

That's how you use cap space as a rebuilding team, folks.

You mean to get Tyler Zeller? Or Nik Stauskas (who sucks) and years of Carl Landry?

[saltlover]

The odds that Philly finishes with a worse draft pick than Sacramento this year is rather low.  It's a nice prize for Philly and all, but if the Kings are able to use it to sign Monta Ellis and/or Rondo, there's just very little way Philly has a chance to pass them this year.  Next year, if that's when Philly finally decides it's time to win again, then maybe, although they just agreed with this trade to take on $9 million of dead money, so it's not clear that 2016 is their time either.

While I wanted Stauskas, I'm quite glad the Celtics didn't do this deal.  I don't care about this year's salary space much, but I wouldn't at this point take on $9 million for next year.

[Future Celtics Owner]

That's how you use cap space as a rebuilding team, folks.

Another TP. Thats what I wanted us to do, like last year with Zeller and cavs pick.

[ssspence]

If you want to feel better about some of the misery and pessimism here, go to Sactownroyalty.  The Kings fans are devestated.  It's hilarious.


From one of the articles:
"The Sacramento Kings are a bad basketball team, have been a bad basketball team for some time and look to remain a bad basketball team for the foreseeable future."

The comments are priceless.

http://www.sactownroyalty.com

They have a right to be upset. This is like Boston giving up marcus smart to dump Gerald Wallace's contract. It's horrible.  The Kings and hornets are fighting with each for the worst run team in basketball.

That said, I'd probably swap our roster with either one of those teams right now.

No. Stauskas is horrible. And Landry's contract is multi-year, not to mention dumping Thompson.

More importantly, if they can sign Monta Ellis, you're getting rid of dead weight to swap Stauskas for Ellis. Sounds pretty good to me.

EDIT: looking at all the pick details does make this look a little better for Philly.

[Roy H.]

The odds that Philly finishes with a worse draft pick than Sacramento this year is rather low.  It's a nice prize for Philly and all, but if the Kings are able to use it to sign Monta Ellis and/or Rondo, there's just very little way Philly has a chance to pass them this year.  Next year, if that's when Philly finally decides it's time to win again, then maybe, although they just agreed with this trade to take on $9 million of dead money, so it's not clear that 2016 is their time either.

While I wanted Stauskas, I'm quite glad the Celtics didn't do this deal.  I don't care about this year's salary space much, but I wouldn't at this point take on $9 million for next year.

I'd give up $9 million in space for Stauskas and a future Kings pick, regardless of whether we got swap rights or not (which I'm sure we wouldn't have).

As for the Kings, you're right that their pick *probably* won't end up being swapped.  At the same time, the Clippers thought that their pick *probably* wouldn't end up being #1 (Kyrie Irving) in the Baron Davis / Mo Williams salary dump. 

There's a good chance the Kings will be in the lottery the next couple of seasons, and when that's the case, anything can happen.  The Kings could have conceivably given up a chance at the #1 pick in the draft, Nic Stauskas, and a future #1 for the rights to sign an injured Wes Matthews.  Regardless of whether that comes to pass, it's a really, really poor gamble.