2022-2023 Boston Bruins Season

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Yeah, the Bruins seem to be having trouble scoring lately, which isn't good. Hopefully that doesn't last into the playoffs. President's Trophy is great, but most seasons the President's Trophy winner doesn't win the Cup, so I'm not exactly thrilled about the PT, but maybe the Bs will buck the trend.

[hardlyyardley]

Does the total win record take into consideration OT and shootout wins that only recently counted as an extra point??

It's like the Davos kid coming close to Pistol Pete's record when Pete didn't have a three point rule and didn't play five years

[hardlyyardley]

Make that Davis not Davos

[Vermont Green]

Does the total win record take into consideration OT and shootout wins that only recently counted as an extra point??

It's like the Davos kid coming close to Pistol Pete's record when Pete didn't have a three point rule and didn't play five years

It doesn't, from what I can tell.  Montreal in 1976/77 was 60 wins, 8 losses, 12 ties (80 total games, no overtime wins).  Detroit in 1995/96 was 62 wins, 13 losses, and 7 ties (82 total games, no overtime wins).  Tampa in 2028/19 was 62 wins, 20 losses, and no ties (82 games with 13 overtime wins, 4 OTL).

All three of these are different, hard to compare exactly.  But you have to assume that Montreal would have won at least half of the 12 ties so they could have had at least 66 wins if not more.  DET might have ended up with 65 or 66 wins also.

Right now, the Bruins are 58 wins, 17 losses (including 5 OTL).  Boston is 8-5 in overtime games.  So if you adjust their record to assume ties, they would be 50 wins, 12 losses, 13 ties, with 7 games remaining.  Boston may end up with say 63 wins which you could compare to Tampa's 62 win season but Montreal and Detroit still have better seasons if you adjust for ties.  Tampa would only have 49 wins by the old rules and Boston only say 55 wins (if they go 5-2).

Detroit won 62 of 82 and Montreal won 60 of 80.  Detroit had 2 more games.  Montreal had only 8 losses, Detroit had 12 losses.  It is really hard to compare but I would say these are tied for the best two seasons ever.  Boston may get to 63 wins total and beat Tampa but if adjusted for ties, that is only 55 wins, about top 10 at best all time if all seasons are normalized to exclude overtime wins.

This team really isn't even the best Bruins team ever (in terms of regular season record).  The 1970/71 Bruins had 57 wins in only 78 games (along with 7 ties).  This year's Bruins will have about 55 true wins (if overtime wins are excluded) in 82 games, if they finish 5-2.

Maybe this table will help (assuming Bruins go 5-2 in last 7 games):

Team          Season    Games     True Wins    OT Wins
Montreal    1976/77        80          60              0
Detroit      1995/96         82          62              0
Boston      1970/71         78          57              0
Tampa       2028/19        82          49             13
Boston       2022/23        82          55              8

Note, there are some other teams/seasons in this, I did not list them all.  As I said, this year's Bruins would be about 10th best all time if everything was normalized.

[Roy H.]

NHL refs are as bad as the NBA.  Clear goaltender interference, everyone in the booth agrees, but the goal counts.

Two flukey goals for the Penguins.

[Roy H.]

Hat trick for Pasta!  56 goals!

[Roy H.]

If the Bs can go 2-1-1 or better over their final four games, they'll break the NHL record for wins and will at least tie the NHL record for points.  It's been a wild regular season.

[Vermont Green]

If the Bs can go 2-1-1 or better over their final four games, they'll break the NHL record for wins and will at least tie the NHL record for points.  It's been a wild regular season.

It has been a great season but I will repeat my table which shows "true wins" vs. overtime wins:

Team          Season    Games     True Wins    OT Wins
Montreal    1976/77        80          60              0
Detroit      1995/96         82          62              0
Boston      1970/71         78          57              0
Tampa       2028/19        82          49             13
Boston       2022/23        78          50            11

Boston has 61 wins and 4 games remaining but included in that is 11 overtime wins.  Those early Montreal and Detroit teams had 60-62 wins with no overtime wins.  Even the 1970/71 Bruins had 57 "true wins".

Boston will likely pass Tampa for the record of true wins plus overtime wins, which is a nice accomplishment, but at best the Bruins can have only 54 true wins.

[Roy H.]

If the Bs can go 2-1-1 or better over their final four games, they'll break the NHL record for wins and will at least tie the NHL record for points.  It's been a wild regular season.

It has been a great season but I will repeat my table which shows "true wins" vs. overtime wins:

Team          Season    Games     True Wins    OT Wins
Montreal    1976/77        80          60              0
Detroit      1995/96         82          62              0
Boston      1970/71         78          57              0
Tampa       2028/19        82          49             13
Boston       2022/23        78          50            11

Boston has 61 wins and 4 games remaining but included in that is 11 overtime wins.  Those early Montreal and Detroit teams had 60-62 wins with no overtime wins.  Even the 1970/71 Bruins had 57 "true wins".

Boston will likely pass Tampa for the record of true wins plus overtime wins, which is a nice accomplishment, but at best the Bruins can have only 54 true wins.

I think that's complete nonsense.  If somebody wanted to exclude shootout wins, perhaps.  But overtime wins?  Overtime has been an aspect of hockey for decades.  For instance, last night's game:  why should than win be downplayed?  It was won in the overtime period.  Detroit had several games that it won in overtime, as well.  Those aren't counted, but Boston's are?  Boston has a total of four shootout wins this year.

Do you also discount wins that NBA teams win in overtime?  It's a silly distinction.  The game is a win, pursuant to the rules.

[Roy H.]

Bruins win #63.  The most all-time, with two games left.

Pasta scored a hat trick, including his 60th.

[Ed Monix]

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Awesome! And the Bs need only two points over their final two games to have the highest point total ever.

But the Cup is what matters most. Bring it home, boys!

[byennie]

If the Bs can go 2-1-1 or better over their final four games, they'll break the NHL record for wins and will at least tie the NHL record for points.  It's been a wild regular season.

It has been a great season but I will repeat my table which shows "true wins" vs. overtime wins:

Team          Season    Games     True Wins    OT Wins
Montreal    1976/77        80          60              0
Detroit      1995/96         82          62              0
Boston      1970/71         78          57              0
Tampa       2018/19        82          49             13
Boston       2022/23        78          50            11

Boston has 61 wins and 4 games remaining but included in that is 11 overtime wins.  Those early Montreal and Detroit teams had 60-62 wins with no overtime wins.  Even the 1970/71 Bruins had 57 "true wins".

Boston will likely pass Tampa for the record of true wins plus overtime wins, which is a nice accomplishment, but at best the Bruins can have only 54 true wins.

Since when did Detroit not win any overtime games? They won 3 in overtime that year.

Detroit has the edge 62-59 in "regular" (non-shootout) wins. Tampa Bay had 56 (they won 6 of 7 shootouts).

The only logical conclusion I see is that this is the 2nd or 3rd best record in NHL history, after Detroit and neck-and-neck with Montreal. Because of shootouts, there's a slight counting edge that makes it appear like 1st. However, "true wins" from that table are completely inconsistent in how they treat overtime games.

[ozgod]

Bruins win #63.  The most all-time, with two games left.

Pasta scored a hat trick, including his 60th.

Absolutely beasting it. Let's hope this isn't going to be a Patriots 2007 story, Montgomery should be reminding them of that every single day 

[ozgod]

If the Bs can go 2-1-1 or better over their final four games, they'll break the NHL record for wins and will at least tie the NHL record for points.  It's been a wild regular season.

It has been a great season but I will repeat my table which shows "true wins" vs. overtime wins:

Team          Season    Games     True Wins    OT Wins
Montreal    1976/77        80          60              0
Detroit      1995/96         82          62              0
Boston      1970/71         78          57              0
Tampa       2028/19        82          49             13
Boston       2022/23        78          50            11

Boston has 61 wins and 4 games remaining but included in that is 11 overtime wins.  Those early Montreal and Detroit teams had 60-62 wins with no overtime wins.  Even the 1970/71 Bruins had 57 "true wins".

Boston will likely pass Tampa for the record of true wins plus overtime wins, which is a nice accomplishment, but at best the Bruins can have only 54 true wins.

What's your definition of a "true win"? I thought you either won or lost  So the Patriots beating Atlanta in 2017 in OT was not a "true win"?