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Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2019, 12:16:56 AM »

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He's not coming for the minimum, so if he would choose to come here it would seem likely that we would try to do one of the S&T deals to split the money for the full MLE between Kanter and Cousins, similar to what he got last year.

I'm borderline on him. While he definitely would fill a need for us as a low post presence and rebounder, let alone someone who could help initiate some of the offense from the high post, he'd only take more touches away from the Jays, Hayward, and Kemba.

That said, beggars can't be choosers, and on paper that's a pretty elite offensive squad in Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, and Cousins that should seemingly fit together pretty nicely. Could potentially be worth it on a one-year prove yourself type of deal.

C’s would be into that too many mouths to feed argument again if he’s brought in. He will want the ball a lot. Throw in the chemistry factor and it’s too big a risk for my blood.

This is what I'm thinking is the crux of the matter. While Cousins showed marked improvements in GS, I do wonder after last year's debacle if they would risk that again bringing in a known volatile player like Cousins, especially given that it would only exacerbate the touches issues.

And let's be clear - the offense should be pretty good already, probably top 10. With Kemba in tow and now significantly more touches for the Jays and Hayward, we should be a top-10 offense in the league again, I think, especially with Kanter who is able to initiate some of the offense from the post. Where we're really lacking is the interior defense aspect, especially if we start Hayward at the 4.

Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2019, 12:18:35 AM »

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Woj just said on ESPN Cousins doesn’t have a market right now. So maybe he will have to play on a team with an exception

Also a question, we still have a bi-annual exception to offer, right? That’s like 3.6M?
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Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2019, 12:21:17 AM »

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Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2019, 12:25:21 AM »

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I really don't want Cousins on this squad. He didn't show enough last year to justify the number of shots and possessions he'd use. Plus I'd rather not bring in his personality.

Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2019, 12:25:37 AM »

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Woj just said on ESPN Cousins doesn’t have a market right now. So maybe he will have to play on a team with an exception

Also a question, we still have a bi-annual exception to offer, right? That’s like 3.6M?
Biannual exception is renounced when you operate as a team under the cap. We will renounce it along with the full MLE when we trade for Kemba

Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2019, 12:27:12 AM »

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Woj just said on ESPN Cousins doesn’t have a market right now. So maybe he will have to play on a team with an exception

Also a question, we still have a bi-annual exception to offer, right? That’s like 3.6M?
Biannual exception is renounced when you operate as a team under the cap. We will renounce it along with the full MLE when we trade for Kemba

Ugh well that sucks. Thanks and TP!

So could a S&T scenario be feasible or impossible?
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Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2019, 12:36:14 AM »

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He got absolutely torched in pick and roll switches over and over and over again in the finals. I like his ability to make plays on defense that create possessions, but when he's not doing that he's a huge liability.

And I don't see how much he'd really add to our already good looking offense, so I'll pass. Although, it's tempting to have another big body to throw at Embiid though.
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Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2019, 12:39:52 AM »

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He got absolutely torched in pick and roll switches over and over and over again in the finals. I like his ability to make plays on defense that create possessions, but when he's not doing that he's a huge liability.

And I don't see how much he'd really add to our already good looking offense, so I'll pass. Although, it's tempting to have another big body to throw at Embiid though.

He did get torched, but I honestly think he rushed back from injury. He just didn’t look ready to me. He rushed back to ensure he gets a check, I don’t blame him but it didn’t make him look too good.

Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2019, 12:42:19 AM »

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@wojespn tells @notthefakeSVP that he doesn't even think there's an MLE deal available for DeMarcus Cousins. Wow. 

Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2019, 12:45:17 AM »

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@wojespn tells @notthefakeSVP that he doesn't even think there's an MLE deal available for DeMarcus Cousins. Wow. 

everyone saw him play in the playoffs and looked pretty bad on def and his athleticism just hasn't returned.
it is telling that he is garnering so little interest.

Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2019, 12:48:17 AM »

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He got absolutely torched in pick and roll switches over and over and over again in the finals. I like his ability to make plays on defense that create possessions, but when he's not doing that he's a huge liability.

And I don't see how much he'd really add to our already good looking offense, so I'll pass. Although, it's tempting to have another big body to throw at Embiid though.

I mean, he had barely returned from catastrophic injury. Hasn't he been a pretty significant positive on the defensive end most of his career?

IMO there are serious questions about attitude and health, but ability to score and defend aren't an issue. He was putting up 25/13/5 on 58% TS before the injury, with something like 8 years running of a positive DBPM. Maybe he'll never fit into a team concept, but it's not clear to me that he's ever been anything but a net positive on both ends of the floor throughout his career.

Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2019, 12:50:58 AM »

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I am all for taking a flyer on Cousins.

Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2019, 01:08:29 AM »

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@wojespn tells @notthefakeSVP that he doesn't even think there's an MLE deal available for DeMarcus Cousins. Wow. 

everyone saw him play in the playoffs and looked pretty bad on def and his athleticism just hasn't returned.
it is telling that he is garnering so little interest.
cousins available for the minimum

I'll take it

Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2019, 01:08:57 AM »

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I am all for taking a flyer on Cousins.
exactly. What's the worst that happens? If he sucks we cut him loose

Re: Report: Cousins to meet with Celtics and Heat
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2019, 01:17:27 AM »

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I am all for taking a flyer on Cousins.
exactly. What's the worst that happens? If he sucks we cut him loose

My thought exactly. I get the too many mouths to feed argument and worrying about chemistry issues but it s not the same as last year. Now if this happens you can easily without a second thought just cut him