Celtics Roster Rotation (7/1)

[Birdman]

Very thin roster. Some moves have to be coming...

Agree..bench is awful

[Green-18]

Very thin roster. Some moves have to be coming...

I guarantee that Danny will be working the phones throughout the summer.  We might be waiting until August for any further moves.  Rookies cannot officially be traded until 30 days after signing their contracts.  Trade options will be extremely limited until then.

[wdleehi]

Very thin roster. Some moves have to be coming...

I guarantee that Danny will be working the phones throughout the summer.  We might be waiting until August for any further moves.  Rookies cannot officially be traded until 30 days after signing their contracts.  Trade options will be extremely limited until then.

I would expect Ainge to wait till the point in rhe seasons when those signed in the offseason can be trades.  Try to pick off a talent that didn't play up to the new teams expectations and the team is impatient.

[saltlover]

I think this roster is one filled with opportunity.  For young starters like Brown and Tatum, it’s an opportunity to expand your role.  For young players like the Williams, Langford, and Edwards, there is an opportunity to break into the rotation early in your career.  For Eurovets like Theis and Poirier, there is an opportunity to establish yourself as an NBA player — to some extent, that opportunity is there for Wanamaker too.  For a sometimes overlooked star like Kemba Walker, there is an opportunity to elevate your status among the elites in the game.

I think that’s the type of teams Stevens has the best success with.  Whether it was Jae Crowding showing himself to be a legit NBA player, Evan Turner re-establishing his career, or IT seizing the opportunity to show that he could be a top player in the NBA, those teams had opportunities for players to be their best selves.  We saw that two seasons ago where the young guys all needed to step up when everyone went down with injuries, and they did.

Last year was a season without those opportunities. Rozier and Brown were given less opportunity to grow with Irving and Hayward returning.  Tatum was no longer a primary option on offense many nights, and didn’t have the opportunity to show his stardom.  Without that possibility of opportunity, I think Stevens struggled to motivate his players on a nightly basis.  And we saw the results.

That’s not to say everyone will run with their opportunity — James Young and Jared Sullinger never did, for example.  But some will, and I think that growth will be exciting for the players, the team, and the fans, and we will have a regular season and a postseason that exceeds expectations because of that growth.  I like the uncertainty in rotation heading into the summer — we are better for it.

[Fafnir]

I guess I don't see this roster as that thin. Wanamaker and Semi showed they can handle the 3rd PG and 4th wing roles well enough. Theis has shown he's a rotation big man as well.

My biggest concern remains the big man rotation Williams/Williams/Poirier need to give us minutes and haven't shown it yet in the NBA. (I don't believe in Yabu as a NBA player)

[footey]

I like our guards and wings. I think our bigs will perform by committee until, through competition, a rotation will emerge. No idea who that will be. Don’t dismiss Yabusele, especially against smaller lineups.

[Evantime34]

I think this roster is one filled with opportunity.  For young starters like Brown and Tatum, it’s an opportunity to expand your role.  For young players like the Williams, Langford, and Edwards, there is an opportunity to break into the rotation early in your career.  For Eurovets like Theis and Poirier, there is an opportunity to establish yourself as an NBA player — to some extent, that opportunity is there for Wanamaker too.  For a sometimes overlooked star like Kemba Walker, there is an opportunity to elevate your status among the elites in the game.

I think that’s the type of teams Stevens has the best success with.  Whether it was Jae Crowding showing himself to be a legit NBA player, Evan Turner re-establishing his career, or IT seizing the opportunity to show that he could be a top player in the NBA, those teams had opportunities for players to be their best selves.  We saw that two seasons ago where the young guys all needed to step up when everyone went down with injuries, and they did.

Last year was a season without those opportunities. Rozier and Brown were given less opportunity to grow with Irving and Hayward returning.  Tatum was no longer a primary option on offense many nights, and didn’t have the opportunity to show his stardom.  Without that possibility of opportunity, I think Stevens struggled to motivate his players on a nightly basis.  And we saw the results.

That’s not to say everyone will run with their opportunity — James Young and Jared Sullinger never did, for example.  But some will, and I think that growth will be exciting for the players, the team, and the fans, and we will have a regular season and a postseason that exceeds expectations because of that growth.  I like the uncertainty in rotation heading into the summer — we are better for it.

I agree about the opportunity. In terms of the bench I expect everyone to get an opportunity and the best bench players will be part of the rotation.

I don't expect the current roster to be the roster to end next year. Whoever doesn't seize the opportunity will be replaced at the deadline.

[Silky]

I guess I don't see this roster as that thin. Wanamaker and Semi showed they can handle the 3rd PG and 4th wing roles well enough. Theis has shown he's a rotation big man as well.

My biggest concern remains the big man rotation Williams/Williams/Poirier need to give us minutes and haven't shown it yet in the NBA. (I don't believe in Yabu as a NBA player)

I believe in Rob as a 20 mins a game player this season.

[Fafnir]

I guess I don't see this roster as that thin. Wanamaker and Semi showed they can handle the 3rd PG and 4th wing roles well enough. Theis has shown he's a rotation big man as well.

My biggest concern remains the big man rotation Williams/Williams/Poirier need to give us minutes and haven't shown it yet in the NBA. (I don't believe in Yabu as a NBA player)

I believe in Rob as a 20 mins a game player this season.

He should be at least 15. I'm hopeful both Williams get that much actually.

[Tr1boy]

Very thin roster. Some moves have to be coming...

Agree..bench is awful

It's not like Hayward, Tatum , Brown, Walker will all be sitting at once (or not for very long)

At least one and probably that 2 will be on the floor at all times

I also expect Grant Williams and Carsen Edwards to make an impact right off the bat.  These are not your raw, underdeveloped rookies.

[PhoSita]

I guess I don't see this roster as that thin. Wanamaker and Semi showed they can handle the 3rd PG and 4th wing roles well enough. Theis has shown he's a rotation big man as well.

My biggest concern remains the big man rotation Williams/Williams/Poirier need to give us minutes and haven't shown it yet in the NBA. (I don't believe in Yabu as a NBA player)

Yeah I think the team has solid 3-deep depth at positions 1-3.  Not concerned there.


They now have plenty of bigs, and I think pretty much all of the guys they have -- with the exception of Yabu, who I agree, does not look like an NBA player -- can be expected to play 10-15 minutes a night.

With the exception of Kanter, none of the bigs has a track record at the NBA level of being able to consistently contribute for 20+ minutes a night.


I think it's going to be frontcourt by committee this season unless / until Danny makes a trade for a guy who can be more of a long term answer at the 5.


I'm not sure that "frontcourt by committee" is so bad, though.  A lot of teams have had success that way, especially recently.  The Warriors got by just fine with half a dozen different C/F guys playing 15-20 minutes a night.

I think you need to have productive big men, but you don't necessarily need to have an elite big man.



That said, I still don't know how the Celtics are going to defend without Horford.

[Neurotic Guy]

Very thin roster. Some moves have to be coming...

I guarantee that Danny will be working the phones throughout the summer.  We might be waiting until August for any further moves.  Rookies cannot officially be traded until 30 days after signing their contracts.  Trade options will be extremely limited until then.

I would expect Ainge to wait till the point in rhe seasons when those signed in the offseason can be trades.  Try to pick off a talent that didn't play up to the new teams expectations and the team is impatient.

Not sure how long it will take before Danny and Brad know what they have in this roster.  Many things can go either way.  Unfortunately, the hoped outcomes are mostly more possible than probable.  Consider all the youth who could surprise: Langford, G.Williams, R.Williams, Poirier, Edwards.  The young vets (Brown and Tatum) could take a leap to near all-star level, and Gordon could return to pre-injury form. Kemba and Kanter could thrive here.   

Of all the possibilities, I'd say the most likely is that Kemba will shine.   Decent chance that either Jayson or Jaylen will improve to near all-star level, and GH should improve -- but despite recent reports, his ceiling is a mystery. 

I suppose every team has their possibilities.  Do the C's have more undetermined variables in 2019-20 than other decent (3-6 seed) NBA teams?  I think so, but I'm not sure.  Sadly, I think there are many more teams I'd trade rosters with now compared to how many I'd have traded with a year ago (I guess that would be stating the obvious).

[saltlover]

I think this roster is one filled with opportunity.  For young starters like Brown and Tatum, it’s an opportunity to expand your role.  For young players like the Williams, Langford, and Edwards, there is an opportunity to break into the rotation early in your career.  For Eurovets like Theis and Poirier, there is an opportunity to establish yourself as an NBA player — to some extent, that opportunity is there for Wanamaker too.  For a sometimes overlooked star like Kemba Walker, there is an opportunity to elevate your status among the elites in the game.

I think that’s the type of teams Stevens has the best success with.  Whether it was Jae Crowding showing himself to be a legit NBA player, Evan Turner re-establishing his career, or IT seizing the opportunity to show that he could be a top player in the NBA, those teams had opportunities for players to be their best selves.  We saw that two seasons ago where the young guys all needed to step up when everyone went down with injuries, and they did.

Last year was a season without those opportunities. Rozier and Brown were given less opportunity to grow with Irving and Hayward returning.  Tatum was no longer a primary option on offense many nights, and didn’t have the opportunity to show his stardom.  Without that possibility of opportunity, I think Stevens struggled to motivate his players on a nightly basis.  And we saw the results.

That’s not to say everyone will run with their opportunity — James Young and Jared Sullinger never did, for example.  But some will, and I think that growth will be exciting for the players, the team, and the fans, and we will have a regular season and a postseason that exceeds expectations because of that growth.  I like the uncertainty in rotation heading into the summer — we are better for it.

I agree about the opportunity. In terms of the bench I expect everyone to get an opportunity and the best bench players will be part of the rotation.

I don't expect the current roster to be the roster to end next year. Whoever doesn't seize the opportunity will be replaced at the deadline.

I wouldn’t expect much movement at the deadline.  Most of our players have another year left on their deals.  I expect Yabu to be waived/traded for a vet if we need one.  Potentially the same thing with Wanamaker.  But multi-year deals are traditionally difficult to move at the deadline, and are rarely waived, so I don’t expect much.

[Surferdad]

I think this roster is one filled with opportunity.  For young starters like Brown and Tatum, it’s an opportunity to expand your role.  For young players like the Williams, Langford, and Edwards, there is an opportunity to break into the rotation early in your career.  For Eurovets like Theis and Poirier, there is an opportunity to establish yourself as an NBA player — to some extent, that opportunity is there for Wanamaker too.  For a sometimes overlooked star like Kemba Walker, there is an opportunity to elevate your status among the elites in the game.

I think that’s the type of teams Stevens has the best success with.  Whether it was Jae Crowding showing himself to be a legit NBA player, Evan Turner re-establishing his career, or IT seizing the opportunity to show that he could be a top player in the NBA, those teams had opportunities for players to be their best selves.  We saw that two seasons ago where the young guys all needed to step up when everyone went down with injuries, and they did.

Last year was a season without those opportunities. Rozier and Brown were given less opportunity to grow with Irving and Hayward returning.  Tatum was no longer a primary option on offense many nights, and didn’t have the opportunity to show his stardom.  Without that possibility of opportunity, I think Stevens struggled to motivate his players on a nightly basis.  And we saw the results.

That’s not to say everyone will run with their opportunity — James Young and Jared Sullinger never did, for example.  But some will, and I think that growth will be exciting for the players, the team, and the fans, and we will have a regular season and a postseason that exceeds expectations because of that growth.  I like the uncertainty in rotation heading into the summer — we are better for it.

I agree about the opportunity. In terms of the bench I expect everyone to get an opportunity and the best bench players will be part of the rotation.

I don't expect the current roster to be the roster to end next year. Whoever doesn't seize the opportunity will be replaced at the deadline.

I wouldn’t expect much movement at the deadline.  Most of our players have another year left on their deals.  I expect Yabu to be waived/traded for a vet if we need one.  Potentially the same thing with Wanamaker.  But multi-year deals are traditionally difficult to move at the deadline, and are rarely waived, so I don’t expect much.

Frankly I don’t see a role for Yabu on this team.  I would rather Grant Williams or Vince Poirier get those minutes.

[Tr1boy]

I think this roster is one filled with opportunity.  For young starters like Brown and Tatum, it’s an opportunity to expand your role.  For young players like the Williams, Langford, and Edwards, there is an opportunity to break into the rotation early in your career.  For Eurovets like Theis and Poirier, there is an opportunity to establish yourself as an NBA player — to some extent, that opportunity is there for Wanamaker too.  For a sometimes overlooked star like Kemba Walker, there is an opportunity to elevate your status among the elites in the game.

I think that’s the type of teams Stevens has the best success with.  Whether it was Jae Crowding showing himself to be a legit NBA player, Evan Turner re-establishing his career, or IT seizing the opportunity to show that he could be a top player in the NBA, those teams had opportunities for players to be their best selves.  We saw that two seasons ago where the young guys all needed to step up when everyone went down with injuries, and they did.

Last year was a season without those opportunities. Rozier and Brown were given less opportunity to grow with Irving and Hayward returning.  Tatum was no longer a primary option on offense many nights, and didn’t have the opportunity to show his stardom.  Without that possibility of opportunity, I think Stevens struggled to motivate his players on a nightly basis.  And we saw the results.

That’s not to say everyone will run with their opportunity — James Young and Jared Sullinger never did, for example.  But some will, and I think that growth will be exciting for the players, the team, and the fans, and we will have a regular season and a postseason that exceeds expectations because of that growth.  I like the uncertainty in rotation heading into the summer — we are better for it.

I agree about the opportunity. In terms of the bench I expect everyone to get an opportunity and the best bench players will be part of the rotation.

I don't expect the current roster to be the roster to end next year. Whoever doesn't seize the opportunity will be replaced at the deadline.

I wouldn’t expect much movement at the deadline.  Most of our players have another year left on their deals.  I expect Yabu to be waived/traded for a vet if we need one.  Potentially the same thing with Wanamaker.  But multi-year deals are traditionally difficult to move at the deadline, and are rarely waived, so I don’t expect much.

Frankly I don’t see a role for Yabu on this team.  I would rather Grant Williams or Vince Poirier get those minutes.

I want to see if Yabu has improved his 3 pt shooting

If not,  we got ourselves a pretty good cheerleader off the bench