Celtic Picks - 2019 draft

[smokeablount]

Kings blown out at home. Now that they’re out of playoffs nothing to play for.

there is a possibility they can drop to the 12th pick.

Very slim. They are 2.5 games ahead of Charlotte with 4 left to play. Way more likely they pass whoever is 9th in the east, Orlando or Miami, and we end up with the 14th pick. Either way I don't think it makes a huge difference.

Yeah I'd call both Miami and Orlando finishing better than them a big win at this point (with one of those FL teams in the playoffs obviously).

C'mon #13!  If you told me at the beginning of the season that I'd be rooting for the Kings pick to land #13 I'd have punched you. 

[Walker Wiggle]

Regardless of where these various picks land, and assuming Ainge isn't putting them in a package for AD (best case scenario in my book), then he needs to find a way to roll at least one of them into the future.

One of those picks might be useful in drafting a PG, especially given the possibility that you might lose both Kyrie and Rozier two weeks after the draft (gulp). But that's about all you need right now, especially given the team's luxury tax situation.

For instance, even if the Memphis pick doesn't convey this year, I'd make our own pick and try and deal that Clippers pick for a future first plus a second, or perhaps just a future first with lighter protections, etc. You don't want to be caught in the same situation as you were a couple years ago, when the team ended up taking Yabusele and Zizic as options to "stash" overseas because you were keeping your cap space open.

How likely do people think this is? For a team with plenty of talent already that's in the tax, it makes a lot of sense to me.

[RPGenerate]

It seems that after Zion/Ja/RJ, the next 10 picks seem to be an absolute crapshoot on who is gonna go where. I say that if we do get the Memphis pick this year, we buy low on Cam Reddish. While he didn't have the best year, I feel like he was used very poorly alongside Zion and RJ, and I still see some great potential.

[footey]

It seems that after Zion/Ja/RJ, the next 10 picks seem to be an absolute crapshoot on who is gonna go where. I say that if we do get the Memphis pick this year, we buy low on Cam Reddish. While he didn't have the best year, I feel like he was used very poorly alongside Zion and RJ, and I still see some great potential.

Or he could be the next James Young.

[RPGenerate]

It seems that after Zion/Ja/RJ, the next 10 picks seem to be an absolute crapshoot on who is gonna go where. I say that if we do get the Memphis pick this year, we buy low on Cam Reddish. While he didn't have the best year, I feel like he was used very poorly alongside Zion and RJ, and I still see some great potential.

Or he could be the next James Young.

Well, any player in that range can be the next James Young. I still like his potential, so being scared he's gonna be like an unrelated player we drafted 5 years ago seems a bit silly.

[Sophomore]

It seems that after Zion/Ja/RJ, the next 10 picks seem to be an absolute crapshoot on who is gonna go where. I say that if we do get the Memphis pick this year, we buy low on Cam Reddish. While he didn't have the best year, I feel like he was used very poorly alongside Zion and RJ, and I still see some great potential.

Depends what you're looking for. Granting that the draft is always a crapshoot (see, e.g., Markelle Fultz), in that range there are players who seem likely to be solid rotational players with one or two clear NBA skills and a fairly high floor. Brandon Clarke is the guy who comes to mind for me - solid motor, leaping skills at the RWIII level but much better timing and court awareness, decent midrange jump shot. He's also older than Tatum and he's been coached up. His odds of being a solid rotational player pretty quickly, cost-controlled for four years, seem good.

(Obviously, all of this is assuming that we lose out on the AD sweepstakes...)

[RPGenerate]

It seems that after Zion/Ja/RJ, the next 10 picks seem to be an absolute crapshoot on who is gonna go where. I say that if we do get the Memphis pick this year, we buy low on Cam Reddish. While he didn't have the best year, I feel like he was used very poorly alongside Zion and RJ, and I still see some great potential.

Depends what you're looking for. Granting that the draft is always a crapshoot (see, e.g., Markelle Fultz), in that range there are players who seem likely to be solid rotational players with one or two clear NBA skills and a fairly high floor. Brandon Clarke is the guy who comes to mind for me - solid motor, leaping skills at the RWIII level but much better timing and court awareness, decent midrange jump shot. He's also older than Tatum and he's been coached up. His odds of being a solid rotational player pretty quickly, cost-controlled for four years, seem good.

(Obviously, all of this is assuming that we lose out on the AD sweepstakes...)

I probably phrased it a bit wrong, but I meant to say is that there is no clear order of who is getting drafted in the 3-10 range. I agree that every draft is a crapshoot.

[footey]

It seems that after Zion/Ja/RJ, the next 10 picks seem to be an absolute crapshoot on who is gonna go where. I say that if we do get the Memphis pick this year, we buy low on Cam Reddish. While he didn't have the best year, I feel like he was used very poorly alongside Zion and RJ, and I still see some great potential.

Or he could be the next James Young.

Well, any player in that range can be the next James Young. I still like his potential, so being scared he's gonna be like an unrelated player we drafted 5 years ago seems a bit silly.

Yes, but so is being intrigued because of his pre-college hype, which has not panned out his year in college, relative to other players that may be available. My point is not to get caught up in the hype that he was a top recruit by Duke, therefore he must still be really good. 

I find him too passive to worthy of a top 10 pick. 

But if he drops and we pick him, I will certainly pull for him to be awesome.

[wiley]

It seems that after Zion/Ja/RJ, the next 10 picks seem to be an absolute crapshoot on who is gonna go where. I say that if we do get the Memphis pick this year, we buy low on Cam Reddish. While he didn't have the best year, I feel like he was used very poorly alongside Zion and RJ, and I still see some great potential.

Depends what you're looking for. Granting that the draft is always a crapshoot (see, e.g., Markelle Fultz), in that range there are players who seem likely to be solid rotational players with one or two clear NBA skills and a fairly high floor. Brandon Clarke is the guy who comes to mind for me - solid motor, leaping skills at the RWIII level but much better timing and court awareness, decent midrange jump shot. He's also older than Tatum and he's been coached up. His odds of being a solid rotational player pretty quickly, cost-controlled for four years, seem good.

(Obviously, all of this is assuming that we lose out on the AD sweepstakes...)

I probably phrased it a bit wrong, but I meant to say is that there is no clear order of who is getting drafted in the 3-10 range. I agree that every draft is a crapshoot.

If I were doing a mock, I'd start the chaos after pick 6.  Or after 10.  IMHO 4-6 should be some order of Reddish, Garland and Culver.  Then I think 7-10 should be a combo of Little, Hunter, Okpala and Hayes.

11-20?  White?  Bol?  etc...

I hope I'm wrong...I'd love the C's to have a chance at Okpala or Little, or especially Garland. 

[RPGenerate]

It seems that after Zion/Ja/RJ, the next 10 picks seem to be an absolute crapshoot on who is gonna go where. I say that if we do get the Memphis pick this year, we buy low on Cam Reddish. While he didn't have the best year, I feel like he was used very poorly alongside Zion and RJ, and I still see some great potential.

Or he could be the next James Young.

Well, any player in that range can be the next James Young. I still like his potential, so being scared he's gonna be like an unrelated player we drafted 5 years ago seems a bit silly.

Yes, but so is being intrigued because of his pre-college hype, which has not panned out his year in college, relative to other players that may be available. My point is not to get caught up in the hype that he was a top recruit by Duke, therefore he must still be really good. 

I find him too passive to worthy of a top 10 pick. 

But if he drops and we pick him, I will certainly pull for him to be awesome.

Does "buying low" sound like me getting caught up in the hype? Lol. As for his passiveness, I think the system had a role in his disappointing season. He should have never went to Duke, and he should stay another year.

[ConnerHenry]

It seems that after Zion/Ja/RJ, the next 10 picks seem to be an absolute crapshoot on who is gonna go where. I say that if we do get the Memphis pick this year, we buy low on Cam Reddish. While he didn't have the best year, I feel like he was used very poorly alongside Zion and RJ, and I still see some great potential.

Or he could be the next James Young.

Well, any player in that range can be the next James Young. I still like his potential, so being scared he's gonna be like an unrelated player we drafted 5 years ago seems a bit silly.

Yes, but so is being intrigued because of his pre-college hype, which has not panned out his year in college, relative to other players that may be available. My point is not to get caught up in the hype that he was a top recruit by Duke, therefore he must still be really good. 

I find him too passive to worthy of a top 10 pick. 

But if he drops and we pick him, I will certainly pull for him to be awesome.

Does "buying low" sound like me getting caught up in the hype? Lol. As for his passiveness, I think the system had a role in his disappointing season. He should have never went to Duke, and he should stay another year.

^ this!
Duke was a poorly constructed team that never came together this year. They needed outside shooting to help space things and too many players seemed lost in the system (or just waiting for Zion to do his thing). I agree that he should stay another year

[CelticsElite]

Cam reddish is eerily similar to james young. Cam had a bad year though so that's worse

I wonder if a different system helps reddish

[nickagneta]

Reddish absolutely failed at being the third wheel at Duke.

He showed he had a three point shot and that was it. He shot horribly overall from the field, showed little to no playmaking, no ability to rebound and okay defense at best. And Reddish was even very inconsistent from three. Some games he couldn't miss and others, he didn't show up.

I don't have a good feeling Reddish will make it in the league unless it's as just a three point specialist.

Heck, I am not high on most of this draft. Love Zion and Ja. From Barrett on down everyone has some glaring weaknesses and very limited upside.

[RPGenerate]

Reddish absolutely failed at being the third wheel at Duke.

He showed he had a three point shot and that was it. He shot horribly overall from the field, showed little to no playmaking, no ability to rebound and okay defense at best. And Reddish was even very inconsistent from three. Some games he couldn't miss and others, he didn't show up.

I don't have a good feeling Reddish will make it in the league unless it's as just a three point specialist.

Heck, I am not high on most of this draft. Love Zion and Ja. From Barrett on down everyone has some glaring weaknesses and very limited upside.

He only showed 3pt shooting because that was the only thing he could be. The Duke system was basically "RJ and Zion, do your thing while everyone else can sit at the 3pt line". I'm not saying he's a awesome prospect, but he didn't get a chance to shine this year. I'd say the jury is still out on how good he could be in college.

[Silky]

Reddish absolutely failed at being the third wheel at Duke.

He showed he had a three point shot and that was it. He shot horribly overall from the field, showed little to no playmaking, no ability to rebound and okay defense at best. And Reddish was even very inconsistent from three. Some games he couldn't miss and others, he didn't show up.

I don't have a good feeling Reddish will make it in the league unless it's as just a three point specialist.

Heck, I am not high on most of this draft. Love Zion and Ja. From Barrett on down everyone has some glaring weaknesses and very limited upside.

He only showed 3pt shooting because that was the only thing he could be. The Duke system was basically "RJ and Zion, do your thing while everyone else can sit at the 3pt line". I'm not saying he's a awesome prospect, but he didn't get a chance to shine this year. I'd say the jury is still out on how good he could be in college.

Agree. Reddish didnt really have a good role at all on Duke.

He will be a very good pro. He has alot of tools that he did not just forget how to do them.

He is a rudy gay...joe johnson kind of hybrid player.

Do it all, clutch, can take over scoring qhen hit.