Superhero/Comics Movie Thread

[PhoSita]

Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.

I liked Watchmen though.  But the source material there was absolutely superb.

Dawn of the Dead was also good, though no one's expecting much joy from that kind of premise.  And I liked 300 when it came out though it hasn't held up well after the style got mimicked to death.

But yeah, he's mainly a glorified visual effects guy who struggles at big picture stuff.  However I think a lot of the humorless nature of the DC films has come from over his head - Warner Bros is widely reported to have a "no jokes" policy since Green Lantern flopped.

I think with Sci Fi / Fantasy, you're asking a lot of your audience if you are not willing to reward their suspension of disbelief with some humor, wonder, and just plain fun / joy. 

If you want to go full on dark and gritty with your speculative fiction, you've got to be tackling major philosophical issues, and your writing has to excellent.  It has to feel like the "work" the audience is putting in will pay off with an experience that'll leave them thinking long after they're done taking it in.


Snyder rarely has "fun" with his material, and his movies rarely have enough meat in them to justify the serious tone.  Watchmen came close, but that was because it was, like I said before, based on a superb graphic novel.

[LarBrd33]

I don't know why critics hated Dawn of Justice, it was fun.

Affleck was good as Barman, Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman was awesome. It literally looked kirk the comic books came to life.

Sure, it isn't perfect, but it was good.

Wonder woman looked ok.  She mostly just turned her head and preened at the camera.   Apparently her entire storyline revolved around her wanting a digital picture back.  Then she shows up and fights.  K. 

Her inclusion in the film served no purpose beyond selling tickets to her solo film. 

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I don't know why critics hated Dawn of Justice, it was fun.

Affleck was good as Barman, Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman was awesome. It literally looked kirk the comic books came to life.

Sure, it isn't perfect, but it was good.

Wonder woman looked ok.  She mostly just turned her head and preened at the camera.   Apparently her entire storyline revolved around her wanting a digital picture back.  Then she shows up and fights.  K. 

Her inclusion in the film served no purpose beyond selling tickets to her solo film.

They didn't put a ton in her because she has her own origin story coming up. If they put everything in Batman vs Superman, then the stand alone Wonder Woman won't make sense. I thought there's enough WW there, and they actually made her looked the strongest at one point, which is awesome.

[Denis998]

BvS is quite a hit and miss film.
Ben was great as Batman/Bruce. For the casual movie goer, this film was probably great, decent cinematography, bunch of booms and bangs of the sort. I felt that Lex was played quite well.
Bunch of holes in the story though.
Wonder Womans character development was non existent. Batman's character didnt much follow his cannon.
I enjoed watching it, but afterwards the holes became apparent.
superman's muscle suit was too exaggerated.

[GC003332]

BvS:DoJ

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4171

Biggest ever opening in the US for a Waner Bros picture, wonder how many weeks it will stay in the theatres despite the less than stellar reviews.

[Spilling Green Dye]

I couldn't be the only one who was bored to tears during most of the movie, was I?  Plot holes aside, it was way too long, over acted (especially Lex), tried to be to artistic in some scenes, and the action was way too over the top absurd. 

When they show the house in Kansas I had memories of the original superman with Christopher Reeves and remembered just how good of a story that was, how much you could relate to him, and how much they ruined it with their Michael Bay directing style. 

[Celtics4ever]

I have liked movies the critics crapped on, disliked movies they liked.  I wonder if it time we outgrew movie critics.

[manl_lui]

Dawn of Justice was crap in my honest opinion. Aside from the fights, the storyline is complete crap.

[Redz]

Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.

I liked Watchmen though.  But the source material there was absolutely superb.

Give this a read.  Love this :

"It’s like making a Strawberry Shortcake movie that is all about diabetes."

[PhoSita]

I think joss whedon has the right approach for these types of films / shows.

Take the world and the characters you're creating seriously, but don't create worlds and characters that are overly serious.

[Redz]

Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.

I liked Watchmen though.  But the source material there was absolutely superb.

Give this a read.  Love this :

"It’s like making a Strawberry Shortcake movie that is all about diabetes."

forgot to insert link:

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/30/superman-and-the-damage-done

[PhoSita]

Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.

I liked Watchmen though.  But the source material there was absolutely superb.

Give this a read.  Love this :

"It’s like making a Strawberry Shortcake movie that is all about diabetes."

forgot to insert link:

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/30/superman-and-the-damage-done

That was an excellent read, thanks.

[Redz]

Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.

I liked Watchmen though.  But the source material there was absolutely superb.

Give this a read.  Love this :

"It’s like making a Strawberry Shortcake movie that is all about diabetes."

forgot to insert link:

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/30/superman-and-the-damage-done

That was an excellent read, thanks.

Yeh.  It was a good perspective.  Kind of depressing though.

[dannyboy35]

I loved Man of Steel. It's my second favorite movie ever. I'm a superman nut. But I never really read the comics . I honestly couldn't afford the hobby growing up. I know people want a less sad superman but I feel like I know we'll get that. I think that's the character arc Snyder is building. I totally get that it's not for everyone. But I personally love how ( in my opinion) they are depicting how the world would react. I like how they continued this in B v S.
   For DC comic lovers I can see how it's a bummer that they aren't getting what they want . I get not being happy with a certain version but I found Both movies touching. I didn't agree with Bv S being some kind of mess. But I've read some fans have agreed with the critics so to each his/ her own.
   I'm personally relieved at the serious tone of the movie. I see how Marvel movies are enjoyable to some but I'd be so bummed if DC went the tongue in cheek , talking raccoon , tons of quips route.
  I haven't enjoyed the Marvel movies except the first iron man and I also liked rd nortons hulk movie because I think Norton is just awesome.
   One thing that baffles me is marvel fans that bash DC movies. I don't get the joy in seeing the other fail. I've seen sites with back and forth on box office numbers. You would think some of these fans are getting a cut , lol

[LarBrd33]

I'm going to go out on the limb and predict that "Batman V Superman" strongly disappoints while "Ghostbusters" is surprisingly decent. 

Gonna pull these numbers out of my butt.  These are my metacritic predictions.

Batman V Superman = 58
Suicide Squad = 46
Ghostbusters = 72

Batman v superman ended up with a 44
Ghostbusters ended up with a 60
So far, Suicide Squad has a 47

A little off, but looks like the core point was accurate.  Ghostbusters was better than both in the eyes of critics. 

But man... only 1 off with my SS prediction.   I had guessed Ghostbusters would end up 14 points higher than BvS - it ended up 16 points higher.  Lol.