Celtic Picks - 2019 draft

[rondofan1255]

Big games tonight for Memphis (31-46) and Sacramento (38-40) picks:

Knicks (15-62) @ Magic (38-40)
Bulls (21-57) @ Wizards (32-46)
Hornets (35-42) @ Pelicans (32-46)
Timberwolves (34-43) @ Mavericks (31-46)
Grizzlies (31-46) @ Trail Blazers (49-28)

I'm not saying he's a awesome prospect, but he didn't get a chance to shine this year. I'd say the jury is still out on how good he could be in college.

I agree. Tatum and Wendell Carter Jr. didn't get a chance to show all they were capable of on their stacked teams either.

[Monkhouse]

Reddish absolutely failed at being the third wheel at Duke.

He showed he had a three point shot and that was it. He shot horribly overall from the field, showed little to no playmaking, no ability to rebound and okay defense at best. And Reddish was even very inconsistent from three. Some games he couldn't miss and others, he didn't show up.

I don't have a good feeling Reddish will make it in the league unless it's as just a three point specialist.

Heck, I am not high on most of this draft. Love Zion and Ja. From Barrett on down everyone has some glaring weaknesses and very limited upside.

He only showed 3pt shooting because that was the only thing he could be. The Duke system was basically "RJ and Zion, do your thing while everyone else can sit at the 3pt line". I'm not saying he's a awesome prospect, but he didn't get a chance to shine this year. I'd say the jury is still out on how good he could be in college.

Agree. Reddish didnt really have a good role at all on Duke.

He will be a very good pro. He has alot of tools that he did not just forget how to do them.

He is a rudy gay...joe johnson kind of hybrid player.

Do it all, clutch, can take over scoring qhen hit.

Amazing draft analysis!

/s

[Silky]

Reddish absolutely failed at being the third wheel at Duke.

He showed he had a three point shot and that was it. He shot horribly overall from the field, showed little to no playmaking, no ability to rebound and okay defense at best. And Reddish was even very inconsistent from three. Some games he couldn't miss and others, he didn't show up.

I don't have a good feeling Reddish will make it in the league unless it's as just a three point specialist.

Heck, I am not high on most of this draft. Love Zion and Ja. From Barrett on down everyone has some glaring weaknesses and very limited upside.

He only showed 3pt shooting because that was the only thing he could be. The Duke system was basically "RJ and Zion, do your thing while everyone else can sit at the 3pt line". I'm not saying he's a awesome prospect, but he didn't get a chance to shine this year. I'd say the jury is still out on how good he could be in college.

Agree. Reddish didnt really have a good role at all on Duke.

He will be a very good pro. He has alot of tools that he did not just forget how to do them.

He is a rudy gay...joe johnson kind of hybrid player.

Do it all, clutch, can take over scoring qhen hit.

Amazing draft analysis!

/s

Nice add to the debate.

Funny how most draft sites describe him as exactly that....but I assume you know better?

[Monkhouse]

Reddish absolutely failed at being the third wheel at Duke.

He showed he had a three point shot and that was it. He shot horribly overall from the field, showed little to no playmaking, no ability to rebound and okay defense at best. And Reddish was even very inconsistent from three. Some games he couldn't miss and others, he didn't show up.

I don't have a good feeling Reddish will make it in the league unless it's as just a three point specialist.

Heck, I am not high on most of this draft. Love Zion and Ja. From Barrett on down everyone has some glaring weaknesses and very limited upside.

He only showed 3pt shooting because that was the only thing he could be. The Duke system was basically "RJ and Zion, do your thing while everyone else can sit at the 3pt line". I'm not saying he's a awesome prospect, but he didn't get a chance to shine this year. I'd say the jury is still out on how good he could be in college.

Agree. Reddish didnt really have a good role at all on Duke.

He will be a very good pro. He has alot of tools that he did not just forget how to do them.

He is a rudy gay...joe johnson kind of hybrid player.

Do it all, clutch, can take over scoring qhen hit.

Amazing draft analysis!

/s

Nice add to the debate.

Funny how most draft sites describe him as exactly that....but I assume you know better?

You chose Rudy Gay and Joe Johnson... They are both extremely different players. The only thing they share in common is the fact they both like to iso. I also don't get the Joe Johnson comparison... JJ was an aggressive scorer, and demanded the ball in college while actually sporting a nice shooting form/stroke.

Also you guys do realize Cam Reddish chose to go to Duke...?? He knew what he was signing up for. His intentions were clear that he wanted to win, plus also be drafted.

I've mentioned many times that I like Reddish, but you guys act all surprised when you see Reddish not do as well as a 3rd option. Sure, his role wasn't 'used,' correctly, but then again, is Reddish any better than Zion or RJ? How can you justify him being a great prospect while averaging under 40% with that starting five?

I'm just very meh on how performed based on expectations. But I guess same can go for Nasir Little Jr.

Listen, I didn't mean to be rude Silky. But I'm just sick and tired of draft scouts and pundits comparing him to Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay. I just don't see it. Minus the clutch shooting of JJ, and wingspan like Rudy Gay, they really don't share any similarities.

[rondofan1255]

Big games tonight for Memphis (31-46) and Sacramento (38-40) picks:

Knicks (15-62) @ Magic (38-40)
Bulls (21-57) @ Wizards (32-46)
Hornets (35-42) @ Pelicans (32-46)
Timberwolves (34-43) @ Mavericks (31-46)
Grizzlies (31-46) @ Trail Blazers (49-28)

I'm not saying he's a awesome prospect, but he didn't get a chance to shine this year. I'd say the jury is still out on how good he could be in college.

I agree. Tatum and Wendell Carter Jr. didn't get a chance to show all they were capable of on their stacked teams either.

All of the bolded teams lost except Orlando... not good

On the bright side, Grizzlies G League squad (that’s what the available roster looked like with 8 rotation players including Conley hurt or sitting out) got blown out too

[trickybilly]

Big games tonight for Memphis (31-46) and Sacramento (38-40) picks:

Knicks (15-62) @ Magic (38-40)
Bulls (21-57) @ Wizards (32-46)
Hornets (35-42) @ Pelicans (32-46)
Timberwolves (34-43) @ Mavericks (31-46)
Grizzlies (31-46) @ Trail Blazers (49-28)

I'm not saying he's a awesome prospect, but he didn't get a chance to shine this year. I'd say the jury is still out on how good he could be in college.

I agree. Tatum and Wendell Carter Jr. didn't get a chance to show all they were capable of on their stacked teams either.

All of the bolded teams lost except Orlando... not good

On the bright side, Grizzlies G League squad (that’s what the available roster looked like with 8 rotation players including Conley hurt or sitting out) got blown out too

All those other teams are too far behind now anyway. You kinda want the Pels to lose so the Memphis pick conveys, if you are in to that kind of thing.

The pick is 13, 14 (or 2,3,4)

[Silky]

Reddish absolutely failed at being the third wheel at Duke.

He showed he had a three point shot and that was it. He shot horribly overall from the field, showed little to no playmaking, no ability to rebound and okay defense at best. And Reddish was even very inconsistent from three. Some games he couldn't miss and others, he didn't show up.

I don't have a good feeling Reddish will make it in the league unless it's as just a three point specialist.

Heck, I am not high on most of this draft. Love Zion and Ja. From Barrett on down everyone has some glaring weaknesses and very limited upside.

He only showed 3pt shooting because that was the only thing he could be. The Duke system was basically "RJ and Zion, do your thing while everyone else can sit at the 3pt line". I'm not saying he's a awesome prospect, but he didn't get a chance to shine this year. I'd say the jury is still out on how good he could be in college.

Agree. Reddish didnt really have a good role at all on Duke.

He will be a very good pro. He has alot of tools that he did not just forget how to do them.

He is a rudy gay...joe johnson kind of hybrid player.

Do it all, clutch, can take over scoring qhen hit.

Amazing draft analysis!

/s

Nice add to the debate.

Funny how most draft sites describe him as exactly that....but I assume you know better?

You chose Rudy Gay and Joe Johnson... They are both extremely different players. The only thing they share in common is the fact they both like to iso. I also don't get the Joe Johnson comparison... JJ was an aggressive scorer, and demanded the ball in college while actually sporting a nice shooting form/stroke.

Also you guys do realize Cam Reddish chose to go to Duke...?? He knew what he was signing up for. His intentions were clear that he wanted to win, plus also be drafted.

I've mentioned many times that I like Reddish, but you guys act all surprised when you see Reddish not do as well as a 3rd option. Sure, his role wasn't 'used,' correctly, but then again, is Reddish any better than Zion or RJ? How can you justify him being a great prospect while averaging under 40% with that starting five?

I'm just very meh on how performed based on expectations. But I guess same can go for Nasir Little Jr.

Listen, I didn't mean to be rude Silky. But I'm just sick and tired of draft scouts and pundits comparing him to Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay. I just don't see it. Minus the clutch shooting of JJ, and wingspan like Rudy Gay, they really don't share any similarities.

If you watched him playing in highschool he is very much a player of that style

Yes he chose to go to Duke but before Zion and I believe before Barrett bith chose.

[Birdman]

NBADraft net has us taking KZ Okpala, Tyler Herro, & Daniel Gafford..i love this

[Silky]

NBADraft net has us taking KZ Okpala, Tyler Herro, & Daniel Gafford..i love this

Not a huge fan of Draftnet.

There are better mocks out there.

Tankathon has us taking Bol Bol, Williams and Alexander-Walker
NBC Sports has us with Bol Bol, Alexander Walker and Bitadze

Sporting News has Doumboya (Little at 9th come on Memphis pick) Johntay Porter and Tre Jones (I like this mock alot, all makes sense too.

SB Nation (little at 9th) Washington, Doumbouya, Tre Jones

ESPN has Porter, Hunter-Tucker, Alexander-Walker (although they have Little ranked below Porter, and that is crazy)

[slamtheking]

update for this week

Standings as of 4/4/19

Memphis pick --  #6   (tied with Dallas)  (protected top 8 ) 
                   Games Behind    Current Wins   Games Left   Last 10
Dallas                    ---                    31                     4               4-6
Memphis               ---                    31                     4               3-7
Washington         +0.5                  32                     5               3-7
New Orleans        +0.5                  32                     5               2-8

--> Memphis is very tight with these other 3 teams.  would need to finish with a better record than all 3 to have the pick convey this year as a certainty.  if they don't, there'd have to be some serious lottery luck for a team (or teams) high than them in the lottery to jump them.

Kings pick -- #13  (ticed with Miami) (protected if top 1 - becomes Sixer pick if #1)
                       Games Behind    Current Wins     Games Left    Last 10
Miami                       ---                      38                       4                 6-4                     
Sacramento            ---                      38                       4                 5-5
Brooklyn                 +0.5                    39                       3                 3-7
Orlando                  +0.5                    39                       3                 8-2

-> Kings are finally falling away and the bottom of the Eastern Playoff teams have finally caught up to Sac where Sac could drop from the #14 slot.  2 of the 3 Eastern teams listed here will make the playoffs so Sac won't have a worse pick than them regardless of record but I'm tracking them to show if Sac ends up with a worse record than all 3 by the end of the season next week.

Clipper Pick #20   --  (tied with Indiana and Boston) (protected  top 14) 
                      Games Behind    Current Wins     Games Left    Last 10
San Antonio               2                       45                      3                5-5
OKC                          1.5                     45                      4                3-7
LA Clippers               ---                      47                      3                8-2
Indiana                      ---                      47                      3                3-7
Boston                       ---                      47                      3                5-5
Utah                        +1.5                     48                      4                 9-1

--> Clips are tied with the C's and Indy.  They'll likely have a pick between 20-22.  They're the hottest of those 3 teams right now so I could see them with #22.  I don't see them falling off enough to drop below OKC or SAS in the time left nor do I think they'll catch the even hotter Jazz for #23.

Boston Pick --  #20 (tied with Clippers and Indiana)
                      Games Behind    Current Wins     Games Left    Last 10
San Antonio               2                       45                       3                5-5
OKC                          1.5                     45                       4                3-7
LA Clippers               ---                       47                       3                8-2
Indiana                     ---                       47                       3                3-7
Boston                      ---                       47                       3                5-5
Utah                        +1.5                     48                       4                9-1

--> C's tied with Indy and Clips.  They'll likely have a pick between 20-22.  They're not as hot as the Clips but do have a game against Indy tomorrow that will likely be the primary game determining where their pick ends up.  If they win (which is needed to guarantee that #4 seed) then they'll likely have #21-22.  If they lose, they'll likely end up with #20-21 and quite probably the #5 seed.  Highly unlikely they fall below OKC or SAS in the last week but they've gone on nosedives before and it's even less likely they catch Utah for a worse pick.

Second Rounders:
Boston (protected 31-55)

Second rounders
Boston - #52 (based on worst case with tie breakers)
It's not going anywhere.

[slamtheking]

NBADraft net has us taking KZ Okpala, Tyler Herro, & Daniel Gafford..i love this

Not a huge fan of Draftnet.

There are better mocks out there.

Tankathon has us taking Bol Bol, Williams and Alexander-Walker
NBC Sports has us with Bol Bol, Alexander Walker and Bitadze

Sporting News has Doumboya (Little at 9th come on Memphis pick) Johntay Porter and Tre Jones (I like this mock alot, all makes sense too.

SB Nation (little at 9th) Washington, Doumbouya, Tre Jones

ESPN has Porter, Hunter-Tucker, Alexander-Walker (although they have Little ranked below Porter, and that is crazy)

have to admit none of these guys excite me.  would have absolutely no qualms about all of them going out in a trade for Davis.  If for whatever reason that trade doesn't occur, the thought of picking Bol doesn't sit well with me.  too  many negative factors with his health and motor on the court. 

[Silky]

Crazy race to the end of the season for the picks.

Dallas and Memphis tied at the 6/7 spot, both with 47 losses and 4 games remaining. (Dallas is low key tanking so they will finish with more loses, next 2 games against each other)

NOP and Washington tied at the 8/9 spots both with 47 losses but only 3 games left. (pels will lose at least 2 games out of 3 - Suns-Kings-GSW) (Washington will lose at least 2 games out of 3 - SAS-NYK-BOS)

Predictions:
Dallas with 51 losses
NOP with 50 losses
Washington with 49 Losses
Memphis with 49-50 losses.

If Memphis finishes 7th - 14% chance pick falls to 9 or 10
If Memphis finishes 8th - 42% chance pick falls to 9-11
If Memphis finishes 9th - 76.9% chance it is pick 9-12



Sacramento is currently tied with Miami for 13-14 with 40 losses each.
Miami has Minny, Toronto, Philly, Brooklyn. I expect Miami to get some rested players and since they are fighting hard for playoffs against magic, nets and Pistons in these games and will go 3-1.

Sacramento has Cleveland, Utah, Portland and Pelicans. Pelicans is a win, but Portland and Utah are battling for Home Court so I think those games are 2 loses for Sacramento, the wildcard for them is the game with Cleveland, that is a game the Kings could lose if not careful.

Prediction
Miami 41 losses
Sacramento 42 losses

If Sacramento ends up 14th - 2.7% chance it jumps to pick 2-4
If Sacramento ends up 13th - 3% chance it jumps to pick 2-4

[Silky]

NBADraft net has us taking KZ Okpala, Tyler Herro, & Daniel Gafford..i love this

Not a huge fan of Draftnet.

There are better mocks out there.

Tankathon has us taking Bol Bol, Williams and Alexander-Walker
NBC Sports has us with Bol Bol, Alexander Walker and Bitadze

Sporting News has Doumboya (Little at 9th come on Memphis pick) Johntay Porter and Tre Jones (I like this mock alot, all makes sense too.

SB Nation (little at 9th) Washington, Doumbouya, Tre Jones

ESPN has Porter, Hunter-Tucker, Alexander-Walker (although they have Little ranked below Porter, and that is crazy)

have to admit none of these guys excite me.  would have absolutely no qualms about all of them going out in a trade for Davis.  If for whatever reason that trade doesn't occur, the thought of picking Bol doesn't sit well with me.  too  many negative factors with his health and motor on the court.

Bol has the potential to be a superstar game changer, but I am not sold either.

I really hope the memphis pick converts cause alot of mocks have Little/Reddish available in that slot. And depending who goes out in a possible Davis deal, they could be a steal of a replacement.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

NBADraft net has us taking KZ Okpala, Tyler Herro, & Daniel Gafford..i love this

NBAdraft.net doesn't draft for need or fit this early. Their mock drafts are basically player rankings with current draft order. 

[Birdman]

NBADRAFT did good last year with their predictions 😀