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Title: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: SPFLD-Hoop on January 31, 2013, 08:32:42 PM
Ya, as if you have to wonder...He'd be IN the rotation by now, and you either know it, or you don't know enough about hoop. SA doesn't send their draft picks out to pasture...and why would anyone...you don't get NBA by D league time. You only get D league. We have KG to teach him, and play some REAL meaningful minutes that COUNT to something....WHY wait till KG is dead....he is here NOW..put the kid in, KG wanted to play forward all along, said so, and you know that..Melo at center...that is what he does......Did Indiana send Hibbert to the D league..?
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 31, 2013, 08:39:12 PM
Ya, as if you have to wonder...He'd be IN the rotation by now, and you either know it, or you don't know enough about hoop. SA doesn't send their draft picks out to pasture...and why would anyone...you don't get NBA by D league time. You only get D league. We have KG to teach him, and play some REAL meaningful minutes that COUNT to something....WHY wait till KG is dead....he is here NOW..put the kid in, KG wanted to play forward all along, said so, and you know that..Melo at center...that is what he does......Did Indiana send Hibbert to the D league..?

James Andersen.....?
Plus, San Antonio rarely drafts projects.
They go for ready players like Mills.
And that new guy that played last night vs. the Hornets.
We wish we had their scouts.

But no, he wouldn't be drafted or playing there.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: celtsfan84 on January 31, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
Ya, as if you have to wonder...He'd be IN the rotation by now, and you either know it, or you don't know enough about hoop. SA doesn't send their draft picks out to pasture...and why would anyone...you don't get NBA by D league time. You only get D league. We have KG to teach him, and play some REAL meaningful minutes that COUNT to something....WHY wait till KG is dead....he is here NOW..put the kid in, KG wanted to play forward all along, said so, and you know that..Melo at center...that is what he does......Did Indiana send Hibbert to the D league..?

San Antonio is a pretty poor example.  They use the D-League as much as any other team in the NBA.  In fact, they were the second team to purchase a D-League affiliate and own the current D-League champions.

Danny Green, Nando de Colo, James Anderson, Cory Joseph are some examples of guys that they have sent to the D-League.  Ian Mahinmi is probably the best example, a raw big man who was drafted at the end of the first round.  He spent a good amount of time in the D-League.  San Antonio would probably be the most likely team to put him in the D-League, had they drafted him.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: Tr1boy on January 31, 2013, 08:42:15 PM
Ya, as if you have to wonder...He'd be IN the rotation by now, and you either know it, or you don't know enough about hoop. SA doesn't send their draft picks out to pasture...and why would anyone...you don't get NBA by D league time. You only get D league. We have KG to teach him, and play some REAL meaningful minutes that COUNT to something....WHY wait till KG is dead....he is here NOW..put the kid in, KG wanted to play forward all along, said so, and you know that..Melo at center...that is what he does......Did Indiana send Hibbert to the D league..?

The issue is , he can't even cut it in practice right now. He is over helping, a second too late on helping on the weakside, not boxing guys out that good, not setting the right picks etc.

Im sure kg helps him in practice but even then , he is still not getting it. Playing real games then will be a disaster, like a domino effect.

Melo closes comparison is to Deandre Jordan who also has low bbiq. But he is super athletic, and finally after a few years in the league plays well enough not to make too many mistakes. This is hopefully where fab can get to. It will be a big accomplishment as many many drafted players never get to be regulars in the nba
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 31, 2013, 08:46:07 PM
I doubt any team in the NBA would be giving Fab Melo time on the court this year.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: SPFLD-Hoop on January 31, 2013, 09:10:08 PM
A lot of talk..but WHO has seen him play..really....? SA would be playing him like splitter....and the other rookies they now play regularly....and if he is so way out of form...then WHY DRAFT him..? Something isn't right.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: jackson_34 on January 31, 2013, 09:11:23 PM
They would not be playing Melo. Not to dismiss Melo, but there is no way he would be on top of their offense to get any burn from Pop.

...and just to pre-empt any mention of Aaron Baynes immediately getting significant minutes straight after signing from Europe and not knowing the system; Baynes plays on the Australian national team who play a significant amount of spurs plays as they are coached by Brett Brown, an assistant coach of the Spurs.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: CelticG1 on January 31, 2013, 09:14:05 PM
Well it definitely helps that they have been such a good regular season team the past few years.

If we were in 1st second place we would have the luxury to have KG and Pierce take games off, we could afford to give rookies/younger guys more playing time etc.

For the past several years though this hasn't been the case. We have been more middle of the pack and so can't spend time developing younger guys during the season as much as we'd like.

If we were in 1st I'm sure every now in then at least when KG took a game off they would be able to call Melo up to get a handful of minutes
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: Atzar on January 31, 2013, 09:14:21 PM
A lot of talk..but WHO has seen him play..really....? SA would be playing him like splitter....and the other rookies they now play regularly....and if he is so way out of form...then WHY DRAFT him..? Something isn't right.

They drafted him for his potential.  He's a seven-footer with  great tools and a developing skillset, but he's not ready to contribute in the NBA yet.

It was a pick for the future, not the present.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 31, 2013, 09:19:32 PM
A lot of talk..but WHO has seen him play..really....? SA would be playing him like splitter....and the other rookies they now play regularly....and if he is so way out of form...then WHY DRAFT him..? Something isn't right.

They drafted him for his potential.  He's a seven-footer with  great tools and a developing skillset, but he's not ready to contribute in the NBA yet.

It was a pick for the future, not the present.

Truth be told.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: Celtics18 on January 31, 2013, 09:22:22 PM
I'm definitely hoping for a glimpse of him in the green uniform before the season is out. 
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: bfrombleacher on January 31, 2013, 09:41:14 PM
He was so raw in the summer league. Wasn't able to stay on the floor even in the summer league.

He's come a long way but still raw as all hell.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: LooseCannon on January 31, 2013, 10:01:54 PM
They would probably take the same path they did with another young, foreign big.  As mentioned earlier, Ian Mahinmi played 46 games in the D-League as a rookie.  He appeared in 6 games for the Spurs, playing 23 minutes, all before the start of the D-League.  He only appeared in 26 games (averaging 6.3 minutes per game) in his second season.

It would not be shocking nor a sign that Melo is a bust if he didn't play significant NBA minutes next season.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: Lucky17 on January 31, 2013, 10:14:42 PM
http://espn.go.com/boston/columns/nba/story/_/id/8113246/tracing-fab-melo-journey

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"Any time a guy only started playing basketball seriously about three or four years ago, there is some learning curve," Celtics assistant general manager Ryan McDonough said. "But we're encouraged by his ability to learn."

That quote is from June 2012.

Fab Melo is a long-term project. He is not supposed to be playing major minutes in the NBA this year.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: sofutomygaha on January 31, 2013, 10:23:57 PM
http://espn.go.com/boston/columns/nba/story/_/id/8113246/tracing-fab-melo-journey

Quote
"Any time a guy only started playing basketball seriously about three or four years ago, there is some learning curve," Celtics assistant general manager Ryan McDonough said. "But we're encouraged by his ability to learn."

That quote is from June 2012.

Fab Melo is a long-term project. He is not supposed to be playing major minutes in the NBA this year.

Hit it on the head. The reason he's in D-league is because they couldn't send him back to college for a year.  Lots of 1st rounders with big potential are playing in the D-league. No big deal.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: slamtheking on February 01, 2013, 08:24:22 AM
http://espn.go.com/boston/columns/nba/story/_/id/8113246/tracing-fab-melo-journey

Quote
"Any time a guy only started playing basketball seriously about three or four years ago, there is some learning curve," Celtics assistant general manager Ryan McDonough said. "But we're encouraged by his ability to learn."

That quote is from June 2012.

Fab Melo is a long-term project. He is not supposed to be playing major minutes in the NBA this year.

Hit it on the head. The reason he's in D-league is because they couldn't send him back to college for a year.  Lots of 1st rounders with big potential are playing in the D-league. No big deal.
exactly.

anyone thinking Melo should be getting playing time before teh 2014-2015 season has their expectations set too high.  This kid is so raw he'll probably need 2 years of D-league experience to become an NBA-quality backup.  If we're fortunate, he develops fast enough to make the team's 12-man game roster coming out of the 2014 training camp to back up whoever we have at center.  with some more luck, he develops into a serviceable starting center in a couple of more years after that
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: CelticG1 on February 01, 2013, 08:41:33 AM
If he's not on the roster next year getting at least spot and garbage minutes I will be extremely dissapointed.

I really don't think that's setting the bar too high
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: Chief Macho on February 01, 2013, 08:47:17 AM
What is with the obsession over this guy?  I've seen him play.  In college and summer league.  Dude is not that good.  Certainly not strong enough to bang with the NBA guys yet.  Can't shoot either. I'm just hoping he turns out better than Loren Woods.  He wouldn't and doesn't deserve any playing time ahead of Wilcox or Collins.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: Fafnir on February 01, 2013, 08:50:03 AM
Fab Melo = Kendrick Perkins essentially when it comes to development plan.

Perkins got:

1st year: no minutes
2nd year: 9.1 mpg, inconsistent spot backup minutes
3rd year: regular rotation minutes
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 01, 2013, 09:06:11 AM
Fab Melo = Kendrick Perkins essentially when it comes to development plan.

Perkins got:

1st year: no minutes
2nd year: 9.1 mpg, inconsistent spot backup minutes
3rd year: regular rotation minutes

Fair assessment ,   Perkins had even more basketball exposure than Fab overall ....  Melo is having crash course in NBA.    Fab should be ok by end of 2014

Like Bradley I think Fab is worth the wait
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: kozlodoev on February 01, 2013, 09:41:13 AM
Ya, as if you have to wonder...He'd be IN the rotation by now, and you either know it, or you don't know enough about hoop. SA doesn't send their draft picks out to pasture...and why would anyone...you don't get NBA by D league time. You only get D league. We have KG to teach him, and play some REAL meaningful minutes that COUNT to something....WHY wait till KG is dead....he is here NOW..put the kid in, KG wanted to play forward all along, said so, and you know that..Melo at center...that is what he does......Did Indiana send Hibbert to the D league..?
He'd already be a surefire Hall of Famer, and poised to challenge the all-time records of Hakeem and Dikembe. Also, he'd have grown to 7'5, and would have had jets on his back.

You just have to wonder...

Also, while we're at this, I'd like Doc to put me in as well. I wanted to play guard all along. I'm very teachable.
Title: Re: What if...Fab Melo was drafted by San Antonio..?
Post by: Chris on February 01, 2013, 10:16:49 AM
If Melo was drafted by San Antonio, he may have been cut by now.  Not only is Pop just as tough on young guys as Doc, but San Antonio has much less patience with letting young guys develop.  If they don't see strong development quickly, then they will be quick to cut them loose.