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Re: Cousins to warriors!
« Reply #120 on: July 03, 2018, 01:50:37 AM »

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I lost all respect for everybody right now. The older fellas must be laughing their guts out.

What has happened to this world.

Edit: i wouldnt want coussins , and i still feel like we have the best roster in the world, with smart. But this move is even worse than the one durrant made.
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Re: Cousins to warriors!
« Reply #121 on: July 03, 2018, 03:52:57 AM »

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Re: Cousins to warriors!
« Reply #122 on: July 03, 2018, 04:21:00 AM »

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Zach Lowe on the Cousins trade

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23979341/zach-lowe-demarcus-cousins-golden-state-warriors-nba

Disgusting how espn just can’t wait to tear down the lakers competition and bolster lebrons team.  Next report talks about the genius of the lakers!  Pleasee ::)

Re: Cousins to warriors!
« Reply #123 on: July 03, 2018, 04:37:45 AM »

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This is the only way DMC can win a title, as the 5th/6th (Iggy) best player on the team. But still, he may prove me wrong and lose.
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« Reply #124 on: July 03, 2018, 05:00:24 AM »

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There's only one way to retaliate - sign noted Demarcus Cousins doppelganger Kyle O'Quinn, lol ;D. #FightFireWithFire #TheUltimateTrollMove #SeeingDouble #Twinning #NumberSign #WaitWhat ;D
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Re: Cousins to warriors!
« Reply #125 on: July 03, 2018, 05:41:15 AM »

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Talent wise on paper this is such a huge get for GS. It's the one position they were weak at.

That being said, Cousins is coming off a serious injury and he won't be ready for some time do its kind of a gamble by GS as well.

It was interesting how stealth that entire process was and that DA almost pulled that off. Don't think anyone expected something like that. It will be interesting to see what that next move is. Clearly, they are still looking to make moves and improve.

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« Reply #126 on: July 03, 2018, 05:48:52 AM »

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This is the only way DMC can win a title, as the 5th/6th (Iggy) best player on the team. But still, he may prove me wrong and lose.

That would be the most delicious loss
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« Reply #127 on: July 03, 2018, 08:12:10 AM »

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I don't know how anyone can call this a "gamble" by the Warriors. And our hopes and dreams that Cousins will be permanently disabled by his Achilles injury seem overblown; Kevin Pelton's analysis of the trade includes a tidbit about Achilles injuries, saying that according to his data, players returning from that injury tend to underperform previous norms by 8 percent. 92 percent of full-strength Cousins is still an all-star.

Also, Rudy Gay had the same injury at almost exactly the same point in the season two years ago, and he was back in time for training camp.

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« Reply #128 on: July 03, 2018, 08:31:36 AM »

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It's subtraction by addition

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« Reply #129 on: July 03, 2018, 09:04:04 AM »

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I don't know how anyone can call this a "gamble" by the Warriors. And our hopes and dreams that Cousins will be permanently disabled by his Achilles injury seem overblown; Kevin Pelton's analysis of the trade includes a tidbit about Achilles injuries, saying that according to his data, players returning from that injury tend to underperform previous norms by 8 percent. 92 percent of full-strength Cousins is still an all-star.

Also, Rudy Gay had the same injury at almost exactly the same point in the season two years ago, and he was back in time for training camp.

Gay wasn't 100%, and he didn't weigh 300 lbs.

Cousins may turn out to be a world beater, but fact remains no one took a chance on him. He called GSW and begged them for a spot after no one called him. Fact also remains NO improved drastically after he got hurt.

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« Reply #130 on: July 03, 2018, 09:17:38 AM »

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I don't know how anyone can call this a "gamble" by the Warriors. And our hopes and dreams that Cousins will be permanently disabled by his Achilles injury seem overblown; Kevin Pelton's analysis of the trade includes a tidbit about Achilles injuries, saying that according to his data, players returning from that injury tend to underperform previous norms by 8 percent. 92 percent of full-strength Cousins is still an all-star.

Also, Rudy Gay had the same injury at almost exactly the same point in the season two years ago, and he was back in time for training camp.

Gay wasn't 100%, and he didn't weigh 300 lbs.

Cousins may turn out to be a world beater, but fact remains no one took a chance on him. He called GSW and begged them for a spot after no one called him. Fact also remains NO improved drastically after he got hurt.
Improved drastically?  They were 27-21 with Cousins and 21-13 without him.  So a slightly better win percentage.  They also added Mirotic and Rondo was fully healthy by then (Rondo missed the first 13 games of the season and the Pelicans were just 7-6 in those games - Rondo missed 4 other games, all Pelicans losses as well and it took Rondo awhile to get going).  In addition, 6 of the 7 games Davis missed were while Cousins was healthy, the Pelicans were 3-3 in those games
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Re: Cousins to warriors!
« Reply #131 on: July 03, 2018, 09:23:29 AM »

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Old enough to remember when fans would wring their hands about players not being willing to take less money for the best chance at winning. Be careful what you wish for I guess.


That said the Achilles is no joke and I don't know of anyone Cousins' size who's returned well from one (EDIT: looks like Sabonis did, but pre-NBA). But it's not a "gamble", there's almost zero downside for Golden State, and another top 20 caliber player if he is nearly as good as before. 

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« Reply #132 on: July 03, 2018, 09:25:03 AM »

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It's subtraction by addition

Yeah. Let's see how Boogie and Draymond are getting along in March.

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« Reply #133 on: July 03, 2018, 09:26:47 AM »

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Gay wasn't 100%

He was close to it. On a per possession basis, he matched or surpassed his career averages in points, rebounds, blocks, steals, turnovers, FG%, eFG%, TS%, PER, etc.

That doesn’t mean Boogie will have the same success, but Gay’s recovery has gone very well.



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Re: Cousins to warriors!
« Reply #134 on: July 03, 2018, 10:24:03 AM »

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According to a league source, the Celtics never made an offer for DeMarcus Cousins. They’d heard he might have interest in Boston, and by the time they started to look into it, he was a Warrior.

This fits with Zach Lowe's story that Boogie's agent was cold calling teams yesterday and throwing different scenarios at them.
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